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Old 05-20-2007, 05:18 PM   #41
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ECW will survive until the day Sci-Fi cancels it.

Even then, if they can cut another deal with another network, it will continue.

It's basically a televised feeder group anyway. I don't know why they don't just throw OVW on TV instead, or do a similar deal with ECW where they let an outside company run it, and simply give suggestions for who to push. It's the only way to get something different on WWE TV. Everything is coming from the same mindset. Which ever way you climb to the top of the mountain, the view is always the same. They need a different mountain with a different view.
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Old 05-20-2007, 05:18 PM   #42
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As I said many moons ago in a long dead thread...

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It's like... if McDonald's decided to open a new chain, called McDonald's 2. They throw a McDonald's 2 in every major town and city around the world. It's just a few doors away from the original McDonald's outlet, the menu is virtually identical and the prices are exactly the same. If you didn't like McDonald's, you're not going to bother trying out McDonald's 2. If you did like McDonald's, what is there to attract you to McDonald's 2 that is any different to McDonald's 1?

So now McDonald's announces another new brand... McDonald's 3! At first it sounds exciting... new recipes from around the world... some new twists on some old favorites... a cornucopia of previously unseen culinary treats. New customers show up to try this new fangled McDonald's 3. People who can't stand McDonald's think they will try out McDonald's 3 as it is fresh, new and different. Takings aren't as high as McDonald's 1 and 2, but their product is reaching a different kind of customer, and word of mouth is starting to increase. As the weeks go by, the new items slowly begin to disappear from the menu, as do the new customers. In a few weeks, the menu at McDonald's 3 looks exactly the same as the menu at McDonald's 1 and 2. They are competing with each other, but with the same product at the same prices. It doesn't make any fucking sense. Why open a third burger bar when they could have made this one a fried chicken place? After all, they already have two burger chains.

And if WWE does insist on having a third brand identical to Raw and SmackDown, don't have the audacity to call your diluted third brand EXTREME Championship Wrestling, you fucking morons. All it serves to do is make your lame, tame Tuesday programming look hypocritical and laughable, and further alienate the original ECW fans who probably haven't watched a mainstream wrestling promotion since 2001.... you know, the lapsed wrestling fans you should be trying to win back by offering chicken instead of more burgers, you business geniuses, you.
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:32 PM   #43
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Heyman's KAYFABE argument about the new ECW actually made i make sense for a while, too. Because ECW was about a lot of things, not just hardcore and garbage matches.

The problem is, the old ECW had a reputation, had something distinct. It was full of gems, if you sifted through the shit. And there was shit. And we accept that. And so on. The "new ECW" doesn't really offer the diversity Heyman said, which was KAYFABE, but still accurate about the real ECW.

ECW on Sci Fi reminds me of the rest of WWE. The Rpoduction value seems a bit lower for that "oldschool" feel, but it's just another case of "meet the new hoss...Same as the old Hoss."
I'm not saying the original ECW didn't have diversity. I guess I was more or less saying that what we are getting is nothing diverse, really.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:14 PM   #44
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I wasn't arguing that you said that. I was merely pointing out the difference between ECW and the "New ECW."

Honestly, I can't find a single thing in that that would indicate an argumentative stance.

But then, that seems to be a trend. I agree with someone, they seem to infer the exact opposite.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:35 AM   #45
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I wasn't arguing that you said that. I was merely pointing out the difference between ECW and the "New ECW."

Honestly, I can't find a single thing in that that would indicate an argumentative stance.

But then, that seems to be a trend. I agree with someone, they seem to infer the exact opposite.
There are a lot of different people around here, some of which can't seem to comprehend even a simple sentence, so I just wanted to make sure we were being clear enough.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:46 AM   #46
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After dealing with Alienoid, I completely understand.
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:19 AM   #47
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Vince.

Resurrecting ECW beyond that first PPV wasn't the best idea in the world.
There's little difference now between ECW and the other 2 brands.
Then you factor in the whole thing about banned moves, Joey Styles on a short leash, WWE's recent trend of making "gimmicks" that they own (Marcus Cor Von = PB&J)...and calling this new show "ECW" was pretty much a bad idea.

Even calling it "WCW" would have been a bad idea.

ECW should only exist in DVDs showing the original and what not.

Especially in a time where WWE's pushing of John Cena with no heir apparent has made their main brand unwatchable for the duration.
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