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Old 05-20-2007, 10:01 PM   #41
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I'm getting the feeling Orton could get himself disqualified by waffling Michaels with a steel chair and worsening HBK's condition. This would get heel heat for Orton, put Michaels out of storylines, and give HBK the win.
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Orton's concussion selling from his Evolution/World champ days on RAW were much better than HBK's drunken man act.
Royal Rumble 2004. VERY convincing sell job by Orton. I truly fell for it.
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So the WWE's official doctor (Ferdinand Rios?) has categorically told Michaels that he will not clear him to compete, yet this match is going ahead??

Surely the referee (who is repeating the whole Kennedy "are you sure you want to do this?" spiel) does not have any official decision that would allow Michaels to compete? And if he had any sense, he wouldn't allow a man with a 'concussion' to compete.

Michaels is full on selling the concussion, very well. Orton going to work on the head of Michaels.
That's a good point. The WWE clearly didn't think this through.
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Ah Michaels collapses during the Sweet Chin Music, stumbles to his feet, but the referee stops the match. Orton wins by stoppage.
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Anti climactic ending there.

edit : I spoke too soon.

Who the hells the chick in the ring?
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This is why they need more MMA style matches. This ref stoppage finish can work in the right circumstances. WWE have only ever found that instance once though - Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin. And Ken Shamrock, a UFC legend was who it was built around.
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Ah Michaels collapses during the Sweet Chin Music, stumbles to his feet, but the referee stops the match. Orton wins by stoppage.


The WWE is really throwing shit booking at HBK lately. There was the double pin with Orton a while back, and then he got the non-title win over Edge. This match shouldn't have even started if the referee was concerned about Shawn Michaels' health, so why end it like that? It's only going to piss off the fans. They should have just had Michaels pin Orton and that be that.
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This was less of a match than an angle. There was no real wrestling in this bout.

Referee helps Michaels stand up, only for Randy Orton to RKO him. Michaels' wife Rebecca hits the ring crying, as officials and medics attend to Shawn.

In the realms of kayfabe, that referee should be fired for allowing Michaels to compete.

This brings back memories of the famous Michaels post-concussion collapse of 1995. They are treating this as "real as real can be", with sombre commentary and lots of "this is real" bait. Which, by the way, it isn't. And this isn't 1995, so nobody in the audience believes it. In fact, I even hear boos.
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This is why they need more MMA style matches. This ref stoppage finish can work in the right circumstances. WWE have only ever found that instance once though - Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin. And Ken Shamrock, a UFC legend was who it was built around.
You're right. Under the right circumstances they can be awesome. This was just a non-finish because the WWE have booked themselves into a corner.
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This was less of a match than an angle. There was no real wrestling in this bout.

Referee helps Michaels stand up, only for Randy Orton to RKO him. Michaels' wife Rebecca hits the ring crying, as officials and medics attend to Shawn.

In the realms of kayfabe, that referee should be fired for allowing Michaels to compete.

This brings back memories of the famous Michaels post-concussion collapse of 1995. They are treating this as "real as real can be", with sombre commentary and lots of "this is real" bait. Which, by the way, it isn't. And this isn't 1995, so nobody in the audience believes it. In fact, I even hear boos.
Back to my belief that Vince is out of touch. Only he still believes this shit works. They might be able to save this if they do something with the referee on RAW. Who was officiating, by the way?
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Marty Elias was the ref, right?

I'm both surprised and impressed that Punk-Burke got 16 minutes!
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Interview backstage with The Great Khali, and his new interpretor. I didn't know you could get a job as interpretor in "cretin".

Khali says Cena stands no chance tonight (which means he does), he has demolished Cena many times recently (meaning he will lose) and if Cena wants some, he can come get some (which he does and he will). The least inspiring WWE Championship match since Bret Hart hit the circuits defending against Jim 'The Anvil' Neidhart.
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I think so.
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It's The Hardy Boyz vs The Redneck Wrecking Crew next. Everytime Cade/Murdoch's music starts, it evokes memories of The Big Boss Man's music. I keep expecting to hear "if ya ever take a trip, down to Cobb County Georgia...".

I don't know why Michael Cole and JBL are commentating on the Raw World Tag Team Championship match. Matt Hardy is the only (flimsy) link to SmackDown in this Raw match, featuring Raw wrestlers, for a Raw title.
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Lance Cade reminds me of a better conditioned Greg 'The Hammer' Valentine, in his earlier years.
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Marty Elias was the ref, right?

I'm both surprised and impressed that Punk-Burke got 16 minutes!
I was thinking it might have been him. He's relatively new to the WWE, so I can see someone calling him out and talking about what a cockish call it was letting Shawn Michaels compete. They could give the dressing down role to "Rebecca Michaels", John Laurinatis, Linda McMahon, Jonathan Coachman or even Triple H. It'd make an interesting angle storyline-wise, as I don't think the referees get enough love.

It obviously can't lead to a Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Elias match, or anything, but I can picture a promo where Shawn Michaels returns and give Marty some Sweet Chin Music after abusing him on the mic a bit, coked-up HBK style.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:17 PM   #57
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It's The Hardy Boyz vs The Redneck Wrecking Crew next. Everytime Cade/Murdoch's music starts, it evokes memories of The Big Boss Man's music. I keep expecting to hear "if ya ever take a trip, down to Cobb County Georgia...".

I don't know why Michael Cole and JBL are commentating on the Raw World Tag Team Championship match. Matt Hardy is the only (flimsy) link to SmackDown in this Raw match, featuring Raw wrestlers, for a Raw title.
Methinks JR and King are getting too old and shitty to call PPV. Cade and Murdoch are getting some love now, so I glad for them. I've always thought Cade can be something, and Murdoch is deceptively good.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:20 PM   #58
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I would love to see Deuce & Domino traded for Cade & Murdoch, by the way.

The World Tag Team Championship should theoretically be on the same brand as the World Heavyweight Championship, and Cade & Murdoch would be able to have some fun matches as tweeners on that brand. With some battles against London & Kendrick, Regal & Taylor as well as the new redneck team coming in, they could become a pretty great tag team over there.

Deuce & Domino seem more like a RAW team, and most of the teams there are babyfaces. Eugene & Hacksaw Jim Duggan, The Highlanders and Cryme Tyme.

I think the swap would be good for all involved.
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Would not surprise me to see Cade and Murdoch take the titles tonight. It seems inevitable, much like MVP's eventual US title win (again, probably tonight).
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I guess Vince v Lashley is a lock for One Night Stand now. *sigh*
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I think they will take the belts. I mean, that's the only real reason for continuing the feud.
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Murdoch is the weak link here, however. Would like to see Cade team with Finlay. Could be a great learning experience for Cade, and a credible tag team.
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I guess Vince v Lashley is a lock for One Night Stand now. *sigh*
Let's just hope he doesn't waste the Hell in a Cell stipulation on himself, again.
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I know a lot of people are anti-teams breaking up and feuding, but assuming they lose tonight, or whenever they inevitably drop the belts, I think a Lance Cade vs. Trevor Murdoch feud would be pretty cool.
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After MVP wins the United States Title tonight, I hope he spits on the belt and chucks it aside, and brings in a new belt to represent the Championship. That would make my day.
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Solid PPV so far.

I think MVP really needs to win tonight. He can't deserve another rematch if he loses.
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I'm hoping we see Edge vs. Matt Hardy for the World Heavyweight Championship at One Night Stand, to be honest.
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I'm hoping we see Edge vs. Matt Hardy for the World Heavyweight Championship at One Night Stand, to be honest.
First, the WWE need to decide weather to push Matt as a singles competitor or a tag team guy.

But having Edge-Matt at ONS would be great!
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:29 PM   #70
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Another handshake after the match. Interesting.
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Solid PPV so far.

I think MVP really needs to win tonight. He can't deserve another rematch if he loses.
He will win tonight. Him losing at WrestleMania didn't surprise me, and I called him losing at Backlash. I can't really see him losing tonight.

Chris Benoit should win the first fall quickly, locking in the Crippler Crossface. MVP should tap to get Benoit off him, so that MVP can avoid any major damage from the move. The second fall would go to MVP via pinfall, probably with The Playmaker (sigh). Which gives us the final fall, with these guys going all out (MVP would have gone all out the previous fall as well), with a series of reversals, which leads to MVP rolling up Benoit for the pin.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:31 PM   #72
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So, One Night Stand looks like it's going to an all extreme rules PPV, least it seems that way. Interesting.
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Wow, I was not expecting The Hardys to retain.

New plan: The Hardys vs. Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch vs. Paul London & Brian Kendrick vs. The World's Greatest Tag Team in a TLC Match for the World Tag Team Championship at One Night Stand.
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They might actually be trying to "MVP" Cade & Murdoch, by having them lose two Championship matches to The Hardys, and then going over them in the third, much like MVP probably will tonight.
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Edge vs Batista is next.
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This is stupid, the Edge-'Tista match should be the main event.

Especially as the Cena-Khali match will likely be rubbish, and is really just there to showcase Cena.
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I'm thinking Edge retains via a Mark Henry interference, which keeps Batista busy for the next PPV and allows Edge to take on a fresh challenger.
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Believe it or not, I think this match structure makes sense. Edge is going to beat Batista, which will not make the fans too happy. It's probably not a note to end the show on. John Cena vs. Khali will suck, don't get me wrong, but Cena winning has the "face" going over in the big match.

So the US Title gets priority over the World Heavyweight Title? Nice. I remember those belts used to mean something, so hopefully this is the start of a new trend.
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I remember when the IC title used to be defended at PPVs.
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I'm thinking Edge retains via a Mark Henry interference, which keeps Batista busy for the next PPV and allows Edge to take on a fresh challenger.
Potential matches for One Night Stand:

* Edge vs. Chris Benoit for the World Heavyweight Championship
* John Cena vs. Randy Orton for the WWE Championship
* Vince McMahon vs. Bobby Lashley for the ECW World Championship
* Batista vs. Mark Henry
* The Hardys vs. Paul London & Brian Kendrick vs. Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch vs. The World's Greatest Tag Team in a TLC Match for the World Tag Team Championship
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