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Old 06-26-2007, 04:51 PM   #41
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Chris Benoit, the wrestler, was someone to be admired.

Chris Benoit, the human, was a fucked up human being.

I feel for everyone who knew and loved Chris, Nancy, and Daniel.
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Old 06-26-2007, 05:24 PM   #42
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Chris was one of my favourite wrestlers. He had the realism I liked in a wrestler, and I'm a fan of technical wrestling. my favourite Benoit moment, while in attendance at WrestleMania 20, was when he had one the World Heavyweight Championship and I remember marking out like no tomorrow. RIP and Godspeed Chris.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:28 PM   #43
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When I first heard about this, I was saddened because (like many others have said) I enjoyed him as a wrestler. In the ring he was amazing wrestlers and I broke my keyboard because I was so pissed at the news, expecially considering that he most likely was going to win the ECW Championship on Sunday. However, as details of what took place became clearer, I have made a 180 on my thoughts about him. I feel almost hypocritical for doing so, but I simply can't feel remorse for a man who murdered his family. As great of a wrestler as he was and as much as I had hoped for him to rise to the top again, I simply cannot feel bad about him or that I won't be seeing him next week on television. I don't even think I could watch another one of his matches. I almost considered going out today to buy Hard Knocks, but am glad I changed my mind.

If you want to mourn over the loss of a great wrestlers, that is fine because we lost one. However, in the grand scheme of things he was a murderer, and like Bret said in the movie Maverick, "All that good you did, it's just been wiped away."
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:27 PM   #44
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No judgement/vilifying from me.

I'll just always remember Wrestlemania 20, the greatest moment in WWE history.
It's a shame that it all came down to this....
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:47 PM   #45
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RIP Benoit?

No. I don't believe he deserves that.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:32 PM   #46
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Don't know what to say

As I said in the other thread it sickens me as a family man.

The guy must have been in a messed up place, I feel sick at the thought of the weekend in that house.
He must have been in his house with the dead bodies of his wife and his kid, it just doesn't compute in my head.

He took away the life of his young son with his life ahead of him.

I have to say rest in peace, but i don't want to.

His poor son for being in the same house with his dead mom
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:42 PM   #47
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I hope you find peace chris and that one day you will find forgiveness from your wife and son in the next part of the journey.
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Old 06-26-2007, 10:28 PM   #48
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Old 06-26-2007, 10:38 PM   #49
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Benoit since his wrestling debut till last weeks ECW- a beloved respected wrestler

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Old 06-26-2007, 11:28 PM   #50
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Chris who?

As far as I'm concerned the World title went from Triple H to Randy Orton in 2004.
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My favorite Benoit moment was when he wrapped the cord around his neck and jumped off his weight machine.
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Old 06-26-2007, 11:52 PM   #52
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I still don't know what exactly to say. He was a Hero to me. Everything in my heart wants me to hate him. I will never forgive him for what he has done to his family, and it just shows how distanced from reality us Wrestling fans really are.

At the same time, I feel gutted. He was my favorite wrestler. Benoit was pretty much the only reason to watch WWE. I would fast forward most other matches on the card, but would always watch his. He brought an intensity to the ring that is unmatched. A crisp clean moveset, and, in a cartoon wrestling world, was one of the stars to show that actions can speak louder than words.
In my Opinion he was the greatest technical wrestler of my time. I had the honour of seeing him perform live from the front row, and it's something I'll never forget.

Chris, I hope you have found the peace you couldn't have in life.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:32 AM   #54
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I haven't posted anything previously on this subject and, after this, I won't post anything more. I have really nothing to say except that this whole event is the epitome of a tragedy.

Chris Beniot was a consistent favorite of mine since he debuted in WCW in the mid-90's. Yet, no matter his accomplishments, I cannot bring myself to celebrate his life or his career upon his passing. I don't care how great he was, the man took the life of an innocent woman and an innocent boy. His wife and child did not deserve this. To me, this has nothing to do with wrestling or Beniot's achievements. This is about a murderer, who just happened to have a career as a successful and popular wrestler. I will not celebrate his life any more than I would the life of some average joe who kills his family.
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:03 AM   #55
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I believe JT Kool said it best when he wrote this quote: "All that good you did, it's just been wiped away."

I have no sympathy towards you Chris Benoit. You're a monster.

I fucking loved you! I stopped watching wrestling at the start of 1995, watched a little bit in 1998, then started watching again in 2003. I remember seeing the survivor series match where I believe you were the sole survivor. Then Royal Rumble, and I was rooting for you the whole way. Finally, WMXX, you won the title, and I was overjoyed.

Now, all those fond memories are gone. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh or whatever, but you are a pathetic human being and I really wish I'd never seen you perform.

I feel sorry for your family, the members who are deceased, and the members who will be forever linked with the memory of a murderer. I feel sorry for the WWE, who are associated with you, and I feel sorry for your friends in the business, who loved and supported you.

I really don't feel its appropriate to say much more on the issue.

RIP: Nancy and Daniel
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:12 AM   #56
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Are there no heroes you can trust anymore.

Thank you Chris, for now I don't believe in heroes anymore.
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Old 06-27-2007, 04:13 AM   #59
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Chris Benoit wasn't an evil man, as far as I can tell. I could be wrong. From what people who did know him said though, I have a hard time picturing him as an evil man who could do this.

A sick man, maybe.


Some people will try to blame steroids, drugs, painkilers, etc. That could be it. For all we know, he could have hit his head wrong one day in a match, and it seriously fucked something up. The human brain is a fragile thing.

Personally, I find it far more likely that he became sick, as opposed to him being some sort of cold hearted killer. I'm a psychology major. I'm not claiming to be the end all, be all expert on the matter, but people get sick, and people do bad things. What they do during a time of sickness doesn't have to have any connection or relation to the type of person they were, or the type of life they lead.

Everyone is going to have their own thoughts on this. However, to those who want to rip apart the man for being a heartless killer, please stop to consider that there may be an alternate explanation. This wouldn't be the first time a sickness has caused something like this, and it won't be the last. If you want to honestly believe that Chris Benoit did this with his clear, everyday mind and beliefs, that's your choice. Personally, I find it very hard to believe that a normal thinking Chris Benoit, or a normal thinking person in general could do something like this.

The world isn't black and white. Don't forget that. This is, and will always be a gray area. It's not good, it's not evil. It's both, and it's neither.

In regards to his career, from the bottom of my heart, I don't feel this takes away from it. He was still a great wrestler, he still had great matches, and looking back, those matches won't be any less great. One of my favorite moments in wrestling was Chris and Eddie together at Mania. After I found out what happened, a picure of that became the background on my PC. That moment doesn't mean anything less to me knowing what I know now. In a sense, it means more. To me, it truly shows that life is fragile, and we don't know where the next day will take us.

RIP to Chris Benoit, Nancy, and Daniel.
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Old 06-27-2007, 04:23 AM   #60
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I never liked him. Had no mic skills & in over 10 years couldn't come up with 1 decent gimmick apart from being a technical wrestler. He's put me to sleep watching him wrestle on many occasions, just like he put his own son to sleep.

Rest In Pieces you fucking cunt of a human being.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:20 AM   #61
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I don't really know about heaven or hell, but my last shred of hope is that the man was totally out of his senses when he did this, and I don't really think God punishes those who are out of their faculties when they do these things. That's my last real hope here.
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This post is in response partly to WWKD?'s

He doesn't have to be a calculating killer. Although maybe he was. I doubt it's because he banged his head and I doubt it was from 'roid rage. Although maybe it was. What I believe is he got desperate, that he didn't want to loose his wife and child. Nancy had filed for divorce, then dropped the proceedings. They had a troubled marriage and Chris was alleged to be violent during arguements. It's my belief his desperation coupled with his aggressive behavior when dealing with these matters caused him to take things too far. I don't believe on purpose, but maybe.
There are many case of murder-suicides that happen everywhere many times a year. People get desperate, end up killing the ones they love and then kill themselves. In some cases it turns out that it was calculated, but in most it is not.
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Remember when Benoit put the crippla crossface on Nancy and she...died.
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I can't really say anything here that hasn't already been said but...

Thank you Chris Benoit for the memories, and fuck you for tainting them with your selfish bullshit.
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Hero.

It could very well be an aggressive behaviour coupled with depression. Depression is a sickness. I think it may have something more extreme, but it is possible.

Ultimately what i was saying was that I don't feel, or want to believe, that Benoit was in his right mind. If this was caused my some sort of mental illness or brain trauma however, I don't think that iBenoit as a person. Basically, a mental problem could have made an everyday, non-evil man, commit a very evil act.

I don't think Benoit is the evil person some people are making him out to be.
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I would love LOVE LLOOVVEE to believe anything similar to this that would make me hate him less than I do now.

An act of desperation + aggression = striking someone and unintentionally killing them. This is not on purpose.

An act of desperation + aggression = wanting them to stop screaming so you put your hand over their mouth/throat too hard and they unintentionally choke to death. This is not on purpose

An act of desperation + aggression DOES NOT = taking the time to tie up the mother of your child's hands, taking the time to tie up her feet and then having the time to recognize your actions and change your mind....yet taking more time to then strangle the life out of her. THIS IS DONE ON PURPOSE.


And even beyond that, if Nancy's death WAS accidental....there are over 100 million better options of handling that then proceeding to take the life of your 7 year old son and then taking your own life. It's not like he panicked and did it immediately following her death. Benoit took a WHOLE DAY to think about his situation and came to the conclusion that killing his son and himself was the best option.

Christ allmighty that is disgusting.
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Jeritron really is putting his point across isn't he?

Next post - 'remember when they stripped Benoit of his title in WCW - the cunt deserved it'.
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nah. It was a joke. What point am I putting across, that the guy sucks? What point are you putting across, that you don't like me thinking that and referring to it?

I'll post what I like, if you have a problem with me posting my disgust deal with it. If you really pay attention, it's only done in the context of the discussion and not voiced any more frequently than others thoughts and opinions. And every time it's something new and relevant.

Remember when Addy2hotty bitched about me without having the balls to use my name and then kept bitching
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How often to people put across their opinions on how much they hate Cena? Or how much they want Jericho back? Or how great Rock was? Or how much of an asshole Vince is? Or how much TNA sucks? Or this or that or other meaningless shit?
So you got a problem with me putting forth my thoughts and opinions on an issue thats far more important and all over the place?
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I hear you Arnold of the Hams, but restraining someone to keep them from leaving isn't that big of a stretch. In fact I know it's something that happens. Anyway, like I said, maybe he was cold and calculating on it, no one will ever really know.
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I hear you Arnold of the Hams, but restraining someone to keep them from leaving isn't that big of a stretch. In fact I know it's something that happens. Anyway, like I said, maybe he was cold and calculating on it, no one will ever really know.
Yeah, I know Hero. The fact that noone will ever really know is the part that will probably leave people speculating until the end of time on this one and is what makes it even harder to swallow. An evil man doing this sort of thing is unfathomable enough, let alone Chris fucking Benoit. I realize that there is alot of evil in the world, but when evil comes from someone that is as well respected, liked, looked up to and loved as this man...it's an even scarier view into the soul of what mankind is capable of. As much as it shocks all of his fans who never spent anytime with him or actually physically know him, it seems more of a shock to those that do. That's a testament to the quality of human being Benoit was up until this weekend. That's the part that just makes absolutely no sense.

Thing that I keep thinking though is, say you tie someone up with the sole intention of them not leaving and things get too far...wouldn't there be a moment of panic, remorse or anger? At the bare minimum, if things went too far and you "accidentally" killed the woman you love and are in the same house with her son...would you leave her tied up and laying in a puddle of her own blood? For over a day no less? He didn't untie her to consol her and cry, he didn't clean her up or try to hide the body from her son, hell...according to reports, nothing in the house was broken, so he didn't even break one single solitare item in a fit of rage at his own actions!

That right there to me shows that he meant to kill her, had no remorse and left her tied up and bleeding on the floor like he thought she deserved.

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That right there to me shows that he meant to kill her, had no remorse and left her tied up and bleeding on the floor like he thought she deserved.
It doesn't cross your mind that it just might be possible that after realizing what he had done, he couldn't even LOOK at her, let alone bring himself to touch her? You're really content to decide what he was thinking, man, and that's not a good thing.
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It doesn't cross your mind that it just might be possible that after realizing what he had done, he couldn't even LOOK at her, let alone bring himself to touch her? You're really content to decide what he was thinking, man, and that's not a good thing.
I'm not content to decide what he was thinking, I'm just going by the facts provided. I'm even LESS FUCKING CONTENT to defend his actions, which IMO is even less of a good thing.
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I'm not content to decide what he was thinking, I'm just going by the facts provided. I'm even LESS FUCKING CONTENT to defend his actions, which IMO is even less of a good thing.
I don't know, it seems to me that just like some people will grasp at any reason to keep believing he was really a good person who wasn't truly responsible for what he did, you're looking for any reason to justify hating him.
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Christ Darth, the guy massacred his entire fucking family! Why are people so apt to try and defend him, because he's famous? Because he's on TV? Nobody on this website actually knows Benoit, so for anyone to actually say that he isn't possibly capable of this behavior without some type of excuse is ABSOLUTELY ASININE.

I'm having trouble trying to comprehend it like the rest of you and I'm not insulting anyone for their opinions. I'm just stating my opinion and the fact that you seem to have a problem with me attacking the character of a man that just killed himself, his wife and his 7 year old child is disturbing to me and "not a good thing."
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I don't know, it seems to me that just like some people will grasp at any reason to keep believing he was really a good person who wasn't truly responsible for what he did, you're looking for any reason to justify hating him.
Yeah, what's not to hate?

I've stated before in another thread, Benoit represented everything in wrestling that I loved. Then he strangled his wife, choked his 7 year old son to death and then hung himself.

End of story.

Seems to me you're just picking fights with people on both sides of the fence just to build your post count and hear yourself bitch.
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Christ Darth, the guy massacred his entire fucking family! Why are people so apt to try and defend him, because he's famous? Because he's on TV? Nobody on this website actually knows Benoit, so for anyone to actually say that he isn't possibly capable of this behavior without some type of excuse is ABSOLUTELY ASININE.

And you're suggesting that he necessarily IS capable of it without some type of excuse is equally asinine. We weren't there. We didn't know him. Maybe he did it in total cold blood, maybe he was totally out of his mind, by his own fault or otherwise. We don't know. But a refusal to condemn him to hell is not equal to condoning what he did, and it's not trying to find an excuse. I'm not glorifying the man for what he did, nor am I condemning his soul for eternity, because I don't know. But you seem to have decided on what little we know about any of this that he is 100% responsible for his actions, and that's no more right than saying that it wasn't his fault at all. Neither of them is a truly informed opinion, both are just speculation.
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