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Old 07-13-2007, 08:40 PM   #41
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You know, I was with him for a couple of paragraphs. I disagree about some of it, but when the moron said that WWE had a strict drug policy, my BS meter went right off the charts.

I swear, if the rant is hateful enough, smarks will agree with anyone and call him "the man," no matter how patently fucking stupid he sounds.

But who am I to knock it? It got me all my green rep.
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Old 07-13-2007, 08:42 PM   #42
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ROFL that is the stupidest thing I've ever seen

Its just a fucking TV show, give me a break
Oh, come on, man. You've seen how gay Canadians get over wrestling.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:11 AM   #43
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You know, I was with him for a couple of paragraphs. I disagree about some of it, but when the moron said that WWE had a strict drug policy, my BS meter went right off the charts.

I swear, if the rant is hateful enough, smarks will agree with anyone and call him "the man," no matter how patently fucking stupid he sounds.

But who am I to knock it? It got me all my green rep.
I'm not sure what to think about Health and Wellness program. Benoit clearily snuck through the cracks...but has anyone else really got through?
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:17 AM   #44
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I'm not sure what to think about Health and Wellness program. Benoit clearily snuck through the cracks...but has anyone else really got through?
Depends. Has anyone else died spectacularly? No. Does it look like people are still on drugs? Yes. has this been taken seriously? Doubtful.
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Depends. Has anyone else died spectacularly? No. Does it look like people are still on drugs? Yes. has this been taken seriously? Doubtful.
I do not doubt for a second that Benoit is on 'roids, and besides Bats, I can't really tell if anyone else is on 'roids. Everyone says Cena and Lashley...but to are they really? I look for signs like "shrink wrapped" skin and those big flat viens, not just huge muscles. Maybe I'm just giving the benifit of the doubt.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:29 AM   #46
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It's not just 'roids, either.

And while people like Edge had prescriptions, they came from the same doctors giving bogus scrips to MLB players. Benoit had a prescription, after all, so it's okay. Right?

(By their actions, not your own logic).
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It's not just 'roids, either.

And while people like Edge had prescriptions, they came from the same doctors giving bogus scrips to MLB players. Benoit had a prescription, after all, so it's okay. Right?

(By their actions, not your own logic).
Point taken. I wish we could get access to the records to see if they are doing something, but I understand the reasons they keep this private.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:46 AM   #48
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When I read this article earlier, it made me respect MISTAH KENNNNEEEDDDYYY greatly. Like seriously, if he ever leaves wrestling, he needs his own TV show. He would OWN most of the n00bs on the t00b by a long shot.
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:25 AM   #49
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Point taken. I wish we could get access to the records to see if they are doing something, but I understand the reasons they keep this private.
It only comes up in a scandal. I mean, people swept Edge's steroid use under the rug because Edge "is the man." By which, they mean another abusive douchebag for a bunch of braindead retards to fawn over.

Anway, the Scandal wwith Edge and company wasn'tthe roids, but where they got them. Like Benoit, they got them from a dubious source, and the doctor was under investigation before Chris went Postal on his family.
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Anyway, you can't expect these reporters to only interview guys from the current roster or guys that wish to return. Those types of guys are all going to come across as 'yes-men' to Vince & Co.
I understand that getting the likes of Marc Mero is frustrating to watch, but it's not for these shows, because they can have a set agenda and run over the likes of these idiots. Of course the fact that a guy that's bitter toward the industry also helps the news program prove their points.
News these days isn't objective, it's already made up it's mind on how it wants the story to unfold.
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BTW, Kennedy's article was solid.
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:50 AM   #53
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Anyway, you can't expect these reporters to only interview guys from the current roster or guys that wish to return. Those types of guys are all going to come across as 'yes-men' to Vince & Co.
Like Kennedy is...

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I understand that getting the likes of Marc Mero is frustrating to watch, but it's not for these shows, because they can have a set agenda and run over the likes of these idiots. Of course the fact that a guy that's bitter toward the industry also helps the news program prove their points.
News these days isn't objective, it's already made up it's mind on how it wants the story to unfold.
I do want to point out that MEro has a lot of points. People whine that he's bitter and has an agenda, then fellate the guys who say what they want to hear, which is usually the company line. He says a lot of things that are uncomfortable, but people discard it because they'd rather be lead around like little sheep. When Kennedy talks about the work environment, he has no credibility. The only people who will have credibility are people who aren't currently on the roster, and they will be pegged as "bitter," no matter how true.
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I'm not stating he has no point, but his point, like the company guys, is skewed. Thesed news programs have an agenda and they fill it with those persons that best reflect their already decided p.o.v.
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I wasn't arguing with you. Just making the point.

And I think you're wrong, but only partially. The media will skew to sensation, but it's not a fixed argument. If there was something that came along that was shocking enough, they'd change their point of view.

And I mean, let's face it. The media coverage from Larry King was pretty cordial and nice.
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BTW, Kennedy's article was solid.
How was it solid? He defended the company and then turned a blind eye to the drug issue.
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How was it solid? He defended the company and then turned a blind eye to the drug issue.
What drug issue?
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:13 PM   #58
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It is not WWE's responsibility to make sure their employees don't do drugs. Is it McDonald's responsibility to make sure all of its employees aren't crackheads? They do enough. They have a drug test, and if you fail you get punished. WTF more do you want them to do? People make choices and they live with the consequences of those actions.
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Every other sports company in the world just has a drug test and consequences for failure. People are dumbasses and they die for it. Welcome to reality.
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It is not WWE's responsibility to make sure their employees don't do drugs. Is it McDonald's responsibility to make sure all of its employees aren't crackheads? They do enough. They have a drug test, and if you fail you get punished. WTF more do you want them to do? People make choices and they live with the consequences of those actions.
Well duh, they can't stop them from doing anything. But they CAN punish EVERYONE who fails these tests instead of giving them slap on the wrists. ie: Suspend them without pay

I think they should do the Three Strikes, You're Out policy.

1st Offense - Suspend for a month with no pay, the 1st TV show of the suspension have The Coach or Teddy Long or someone announce that so and so failed a drug test and is officially suspended for 1 month.

2nd Offense - Suspend for 3-6 months with no pay.

3rd Offense - YYYYYOOOOUUUUU'RRRRREEE FFFFFIIIIRRRRRED!
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I think Kennedy was well spoken on some things like all these old wrestlers coming on just to get one more day in the sun. I agree with him there a little.

But, just like everyone else in the WWE, he's saying everything just fine and dandy as the WWE drug policy is concerend. And that's just bullshit. It's skewed to favor the top stars. They'll never get touched. And please, a guy like Lashley not on something? It's clear as day.
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I agree that would be the best case scenario, but (and this is not an excuse for WWE going limp on the wellness policy) the wrestling world doesn't work that way. For the industry to get cleaned up, the government would have to step in and regulate every single wrestling promotion in the US and that would be fucking impossible. I just don't like the whole idea of the government regulating every little facet of these kinds of things. Yeah, its tragic so many wrestlers die because of drugs but they made those choices and they have nobody to blame but themselves. At the end of the day, there is more important shit for the gov't to worry about than dumbass wrestlers who are killing themselves to get high, drunk, or freakishly huge.
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It is not WWE's responsibility to make sure their employees don't do drugs. Is it McDonald's responsibility to make sure all of its employees aren't crackheads? They do enough. They have a drug test, and if you fail you get punished. WTF more do you want them to do? People make choices and they live with the consequences of those actions.
Have 100+ McDonalds workers under the age of 45 dropped dead from drug issues in the past 10 years? No. How do I know? Because if they did, it would have been all over the news.

Is it not the responsibility of the NBA, NFL, MLB, etc if their athletes dropped dead like flies?

WWE doesn't punish it's talent properly for failing drug tests. And they also have a ton of legal loopholes in which you can take every drug under the sun if you have a valid prescription and it's not a failed test.
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Koos, yea, they can punish anyone, but they never will punish the guy who is making $$$ for them. I'm not disagreeing with you as I would be all for a 3 strike policy, but it will never apply to 100% of the roster. Money first, Caring for human beings second. Hate to put it that harsh, but that's what it comes down to.
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I think Kennedy was well spoken on some things like all these old wrestlers coming on just to get one more day in the sun. I agree with him there a little.
He'll change his tune when 10 of his friends die or when he turns 45, has nothing to his name after his ex wife takes all his money after the divorce and he doesn't have a pension or health care to fall back on.
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yea, I agree. Seems to be what always happens.
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Koos, yea, they can punish anyone, but they never will punish the guy who is making $$$ for them. I'm not disagreeing with you as I would be all for a 3 strike policy, but it will never apply to 100% of the roster. Money first, Caring for human beings second. Hate to put it that harsh, but that's what it comes down to.
Randy Orton failed a drug test this year and his punishment was working without pay. How exactly does this help the drug issues? He can't afford them? Bollocks. Others won't do drugs to build their bodies when the company openly pushes talent with bigger bodies over wrestling talent? Bollocks.
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Koos, yea, they can punish anyone, but they never will punish the guy who is making $$$ for them. I'm not disagreeing with you as I would be all for a 3 strike policy, but it will never apply to 100% of the roster. Money first, Caring for human beings second. Hate to put it that harsh, but that's what it comes down to.
Well I know that wouldn't apply to the important guys, but in a World where Vince and Stephanie care more about the health and well being of the wrestlers and less about the effect of the storylines, that would be the best way to go.
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What drug issue?

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WHEN HAVE YOU EVER BEEN INSIDE A WWE RING?!?!?! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON BACKSTAGE! OUR DRUG TESTING IS PERFECT! THERE IS NO DRUG PROBLEM! I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG! YOU'RE AN IDIOT! :foc:
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Well I know that wouldn't apply to the important guys, but in a World where Vince and Stephanie care more about the health and well being of the wrestlers and less about the effect of the storylines, that would be the best way to go.
Replace Benoit with HHH and the whole company policy would be changed in 15 minutes.
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:09 PM   #73
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So, if you have a prescription for medicine...thats not a valid reason to have it in your system? Is WWE supposed to assume that all doctors are like Dr. Astin and write prescriptions like candy?
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Replace Benoit with HHH and the whole company policy would be changed in 15 minutes.
Nah, they'd just blame on the stress Hunter had carrying the company on his back all those years.
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How was it solid? He defended the company and then turned a blind eye to the drug issue.
because he's completely correct that it's grown men making the decision to take drugs. Give me a break, no one says they have to. If they don't and they don't get a push, than that's what it is. They are still the ones that make the decision based on their desire to be popular and pushed and all that BS. They are the ones that decide to risk their health for limelight.

because he's completely correct that if these guys don't save their money and are unwilling or unable to form a union. They have only themselves to blame. Once again, they make the decision to do things to be favoured for pushes, limelights, etc.

damn right Kennedy's towing the company line in a lot of what he says, but he's also spot on. Whether he realizes there's irony in it, I dunno. But he's put together a solid article on the matter.
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Randy Orton failed a drug test this year and his punishment was working without pay. How exactly does this help the drug issues? He can't afford them? Bollocks. Others won't do drugs to build their bodies when the company openly pushes talent with bigger bodies over wrestling talent? Bollocks.
Rob, they still make the decision to take the drugs. Like I said if they don't get pushed, then they don't get pushed. It still doesn't mean they have to start taking drugs. If anyone believes they need to take drugs to 'keep up' then they are mentally challenged. Same thing applies to anyone that makes that argument.
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I don't think anyone is denying that it's the wrestler's choice if they do drugs or not. The biggest gripe I think people have, is that their drug testing is basically a smoke screen of sorts just to say "Hey, we do it. What more do you want?"

WWE, much like everything else they do, likes to half-ass it when it comes to their drug policy. They can sit there and point out "we fired Joey Mercury because of repeated substance abuse problems and we've suspended countless others." Of course they won't mention that most of the suspensions were either with pay or making them work without pay.

And of course both of those "punishments" are just slap on the wrists. I mean if you are sent home with pay, then even though you aren't getting exposure on TV, you're still getting paid to sit at home. Now if you are forced to work without getting paid, well then you are still getting TV exposure which is all too crucial to stay relevant with the fans.
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If the WWE suspended people without pay, you guys would been complaining about it, talking about how bad it is that they have to pay many of their own expenses to begin with, etc etc etc. Here is a case where really... getting suspended is treated overly fairly by WWE. Now of course that fact is being used against them.
1001 complaints about how the WWE is run, even when it's in the best interest of the wrestlers. That = is a can't win situation.

Vince didn't invent the wrestling industry, sure he revolutionized it, but lets not forget he is just doing what has always been done, not just now but always.

Not just now.

Hmmm.

It's not like there are other wrestling organizations that are unionized, that have tight drug policies, that have a generous pension plan.



Does TNA or any other wrestling promotion have a drug policy?
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It is not WWE's responsibility to make sure their employees don't do drugs. Is it McDonald's responsibility to make sure all of its employees aren't crackheads? They do enough. They have a drug test, and if you fail you get punished. WTF more do you want them to do? People make choices and they live with the consequences of those actions.
And publically traded companies who choose to let suicides happen must deal with the consequences. In this case , bad publicity and a hit to stock prices.

WWE tried to prevent this after Eddie died by publically announcing a drug policy, designed to keep people healthy. They announced this to their stockholders. It IS their responsibility, James.
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