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View Poll Results: Choose One Top Level Wrestler Nominee
Andre The Giant 1 1.00%
Steve Austin 14 14.00%
Harley Race 1 1.00%
Ricky Steamboat 1 1.00%
Kurt Angle 1 1.00%
Roddy Piper 2 2.00%
Ric Flair 26 26.00%
Bret Hart 14 14.00%
Hulk Hogan 8 8.00%
Lou Thesz 0 0%
Shawn Michaels 11 11.00%
The Rock 13 13.00%
Ultimate Warrior 1 1.00%
Kevin Nash 1 1.00%
Bruno Sammartino 2 2.00%
Superstar Billy Graham 1 1.00%
Diamond Dallas Page 2 2.00%
Shoei Baba 0 0%
Gorgeous George 1 1.00%
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Old 07-25-2007, 06:05 PM   #41
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Geez how did Randy Savage not make this list?
Because the majority of Randy Savage's career was spent in the midcard?
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Old 07-25-2007, 06:07 PM   #42
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Because the majority of Randy Savage's career was spent in the midcard?
Same could be said for DDP, Nash, Steamboat, and even Piper.
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Old 07-25-2007, 06:54 PM   #43
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Same could be said for DDP, Nash, Steamboat, and even Piper.
Agreed, with all but Piper.

Late 80s, early 90s he was part time. Therefore was midcard.

Most of his career, he was "top level".
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Agreed, with all but Piper.

Late 80s, early 90s he was part time. Therefore was midcard.

Most of his career, he was "top level".
Piper had just as much of a main event run in his career as Savage had.

Savage was a main event from late 80's-early 90's.

And then when he when he first went to WCW he was a main eventer and then was a main eventer again in early 99.
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:04 PM   #45
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that will throw people off as guys on "the line" will be tough to judge. meh, Savage will get in eventually.
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Piper had just as much of a main event run in his career as Savage had.

Savage was a main event from late 80's-early 90's.

And then when he when he first went to WCW he was a main eventer and then was a main eventer again in early 99.
Nah Savage had a one year run as a top line guy (88-89), then a six month run (1992) and a flirtation in 1995-1996 but despite being champ, we all knew Hogan was on top. I like Savage a lot, I really do, and I personally think he was underutilised by WWE throughout the 90s, but looking at the bigger picture, it's hard to consider him "top level".

I really think rather than this whole "top level"/"mid level" confusion, we should have gone with "World Champions" and "Non World Champions".
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:14 PM   #48
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Some1 put Steamboat as a top level guy HOF but I put him in my Mid Level HOF vote. Steamboat was an incredible wrestler but he never ME besides that series with Flair in 89.
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:45 PM   #49
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I did the same with Terry Funk and Randy Savage
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:46 PM   #50
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As I said to Loose Cannon when I cast me vote...

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"top level/mid level" etc is pretty vague... DiBiase for example would be considered predominantly "mid-level" by me, yet he had a run at the top of the card for a while, therefore many may consider him "top level"... in addition many guys may have had "Hall of Fame" worthy careers in the midcard in a national promotion, yet worked as topliners in the territory days... I wouldn't want to group Terry Funk in the top level category, for example... same goes with a guy like Jerry Lawler, who would be considered top level in Memphis (and the AWA) yet never really anywhere else. Just a footnote really for some of my choices... another example is Randy Savage, who had a good year on top in the WWF (and spent time as a main event player again in the early 90s, and in WCW), but was mainly booked in high profile yet midcard matches through most of his national career.

The question is: can guys be entered more than once? ie. can Bobby Heenan be entered into the TPWW Hall of Fame seperately, as a manager and then also as a commentator? I nominated Gorilla Monsoon in the Misc. section... but could he also be entered as a wrestler? Bret Hart had HOF runs in both top level and mid level positions... would he be recognised for both? Or do these names on my list simply go into a pool of names anyway, and are not ultimately selected based on their category?
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:06 PM   #51
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yea, we're gonna have to clear this up for next time
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Well I think top level can be considered someone who was constantly a top name in the sport. While someone like Piper never got a run with a World Title, he was still a costant draw wherever he went. And then you have guys like Jerry Lawler who while never got a big push in WWE, he was a HUGE draw in the South and this went on for decades.

Now on the flipside, take a guy like Curt Hennig. A very talented wrestler, never got a run on the top minus a short reign in the AWA. He is a guy that probably deserves to be inducted, but as a mid-level guy.

I do think people CAN be inducted twice, ONLY if they are for two different categories (ie: HBK can be inducted as a top level and with the Rockers, but he can NOT be inducted as a top AND midlevel guy).
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:29 AM   #53
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:16 AM   #54
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also, want to give respect to Spilchuck for voting for George. To me, his influence to the business is huge. He was one of the first, if no the first, to come out to entrance music and really was the first guy to really pave the way for wrestling gimmicks. And remember, Television was just starting to boom around his era and his style really kept wrestling a main stay in the TV industry as it was more theatrical and not just guys wreslting. And you wanna talk heel heat...god dam.


His flamboyant and prissy character was a big influence to guys like Goldust, Rico, Adrian Street, Adrian Adonis and to an extent Flair, Buddy Rodgers.

And a little trivia you may not know, his theme music was "Pomp and Circustance," later used another legend, Macho Man Randy Savage.

So a little respect for the "Human Orchid"

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Old 07-26-2007, 12:04 PM   #55
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I did the same with Terry Funk and Randy Savage
Neither one of them should be below top tier.
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:17 PM   #57
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If you won a major world title then you are a top level guy.
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If you won a major world title then you are a top level guy.
Even Ron Garvin?
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:46 PM   #59
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If you won a major world title then you are a top level guy.
Good to know that you think David Arquette is a top tier wrestler.
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:47 PM   #60
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oh boy, I didn't see that comment being made a mile away. Not on TPWW.
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Your just mad that I got it in before you did.

Also, nice quick edit you had there LC. Way to throw in the sarcasm.
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:52 PM   #62
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no, I was actually waiting for some idiot to post that right after I read Rob's response. Still waiting for someone to make a McMahon comment too.

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I was going to throw the McMahon one in as well, but Arquette takes the cake. And of course it was obvious someone was going to say it, so I just took the oppurtunity to be Capt. Obvious for once.

Edit- Besides, Rob should have thought his statement through a bit more, if you ask me. There are quite a few shitty people who have held a major belt at some point in time. He generalized a bit too much there and was pretty much asking for it.
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no, I was actually waiting for some idiot to post that right after I read Rob's response. Still waiting for someone to make a McMahon comment too.

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What about Russo?
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:31 PM   #65
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lol @ no votes for Giant Baba, although sadly not surprising.

Flair is the shoo-in here, in my opinion.
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Old 07-26-2007, 10:33 PM   #66
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I don't think too many people here know the history of Japanese wrestling. I don't actually watch that much of it, but I have read quite a bit about the history of Japanese wrestling.
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:42 AM   #67
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Can't BELEIVE nobody is voting for Andy the Giant? How many 7 foot 500 pound wrestlers were as nimble as he was?
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:27 AM   #68
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He wasn't very nimble
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:16 AM   #69
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lol @ no votes for Giant Baba, although sadly not surprising.

Flair is the shoo-in here, in my opinion.
It's not surprising at all. Like Steele said, most people on here don't know Japanese wrestling. Furthermore, even if you do, there are better choices this round. I think he's extremely influential, but I didn't vote for him either. Hell, I mainly ignored influence and went for personal bias on my own vote and went with HBK.
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:26 AM   #70
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Even if you went on influence, you would have to pick Lou Thesz or Gorgeous George over Baba.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:22 AM   #71
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Oh, there are more influential people. Thesz definiately. Not sure about George though. He's influential, but more on the gimmick end. Baba is influential in the style of wrestling (King's Road), much like much credit is given to Inoki (strong style.)

George is more influential in America though, since the only company wrestling remotely close to King's Road style is ROH. Many indy feds bastardize King's Road horribly though, to the extent of "American" Strong Style ( a name I hate btw, because it has nothing to do with strong style.)

But I digress.

If we were going off influence though, Thesz would definately win. If I would have nominated him, it would have been between Thesz and Rikodozan in terms of influence.

Anywho.
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:06 AM   #72
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I voted based on impact on wrestling and outside of it for the first one. I looked at his popularity with the fans and with his peers, how much he drew, and the impact he has had outside of wrestling.

It came down to Hogan and Rock, I ended up picking Rocky due to the fact that almost no one has had a bad thing to say about him. He drew BIG and continues to be a sought after actor in Hollywood.
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:08 AM   #73
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I just sent almost all of you an e-mail discussing the final voting and what not. Please look at your e-mail address that you have on file here.

I did not have e-mail addresses for The One, Kayfabe and mrslackalack.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:59 PM   #74
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Had to go with Flair. WOOO!!
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:04 PM   #75
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Edit- Besides, Rob should have thought his statement through a bit more, if you ask me. There are quite a few shitty people who have held a major belt at some point in time. He generalized a bit too much there and was pretty much asking for it.
I still stand by it. If you wanna make David Arquette a HOF talent then go ahead. Winning a world title doesn't automatically make you better than anyone. Most of the better world champions out there like Guerrero and Benoit for example didn't come close to drawing what Roddy Piper did and he never had a world title.
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I just sent almost all of you an e-mail discussing the final voting and what not. Please look at your e-mail address that you have on file here.

I did not have e-mail addresses for The One, Kayfabe and mrslackalack.
you can't have the right email for me either then
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:47 PM   #77
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yea, you it via PM. It bounced back to me
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:42 AM   #78
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For those that are curious, Steve Austin appeared on the most nominating ballots with seven. Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan each had six. Bret Hart got four, while The Rock got 3.
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oh wow, Hart and Flair right now. awesome.
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I voted for Stone Cold Steve Austin. He was always the name I heard when people talked about wrestling. No doubt Ric Flair, Bret Hart, Giant Baba, Andre the Giant, Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels and Roddy Piper will follow, but Stone Cold Steve Austin is a great center, in my opinion.
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