TPWW Forums  

Go Back   TPWW Forums > w r e s t l i n g > wrestling forum
Reload this Page Raw rating absolutely TANKS!
Register Members List

Reply
Page 2 of 4 1 2 34
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-01-2007, 03:16 PM   #41
Londoner
One Of A Kind
 
Londoner's Avatar
 
Posts: 22,178
Londoner puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Londoner puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Londoner puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Londoner puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Londoner puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Londoner puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Londoner puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Londoner puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)Londoner puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
^ There is a way to fix things, WWE just wants to die.
Londoner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 03:17 PM   #42
Jeritron
Get a poke on
 
Jeritron's Avatar
 
Posts: 35,234
Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
It's all stale. 90% of the company's "stars" are on Raw. That's not the problem. It's just not captivating.
They need to overhaul the whole damn thing. They need to end brand extension. Send some more guys to ECW and make that Brand #2. Combine Raw and Smackdown. And keep the 2 brands seperate as much as possible.
Jeritron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 03:18 PM   #43
addy2hotty
yes. yes. yes.
 
addy2hotty's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,753
addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)
Joke is, I marked out when Carlito beat Cena. Haven't done that in years.

Best Raw for a while, but the competition isn't exactly hot. Makes me laugh that some joker over at Wrestleview calls Raw 'sensational' in 2007. He must be on some of Benoit's medicine.
addy2hotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 03:20 PM   #44
Jeritron
Get a poke on
 
Jeritron's Avatar
 
Posts: 35,234
Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Jeritron makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
I don't think its entirely fale to attribute some of this to the Benoit incident.
If you think about it, WWE aims at youngsters nowadays right? Well, maybe parents are keeping their kids from it...
Jeritron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 03:43 PM   #45
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeritron
I don't think its entirely fale to attribute some of this to the Benoit incident.
If you think about it, WWE aims at youngsters nowadays right? Well, maybe parents are keeping their kids from it...
It's probably not entirely false, but their primary viewer demographic isn't kids, it's 18-35. That's something like 75% of their normal viewership, give or take. Kids may buy the merch, but adult males watch the programming.

Also worth noting that the ratings were on a downward bent before McMahon blew up, and spiked only for those 3 hour specials before settling back down.

Can Benoit be blamed? Partially. But I don't know how far we can carry that partial blame.
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 03:43 PM   #46
Splaya
1-0 TPWW Chess Master
 
Posts: 17,211
Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
I'll ROFL if Smackdown gets at least a 2.5
Would it be the first time ever Smackdown gets a higher rating than RAW?
Splaya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 03:44 PM   #47
addy2hotty
yes. yes. yes.
 
addy2hotty's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,753
addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)
It's just a bland product, with bland guys at the top. They decide to allow some of the more underused talents a go at the main event and big victories and this happens. Kennedy and Carlito will be to blame for this, not their 'Champ since September and I'm going to throw it in all your faces and show respect for a guy who's going around ending peoples careers, openly and psychotically' John Cena.

I mean, I know they are trying to build Orton (yet again) as a 'legend killer who actually kills careers' but who's really interested in him throwing a pretty poor boot in the faces of 60 year olds? Is that going to keep viewers? No.

The writing is pretty piss poor at the moment.
addy2hotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 03:49 PM   #48
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splaya
Would it be the first time ever Smackdown gets a higher rating than RAW?
Be the first in a while.
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 03:52 PM   #49
KingofOldSchool
...IN HD!!!!
 
KingofOldSchool's Avatar
 
Posts: 23,327
KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corkscrewed
No, he'll just "wake up" and "realize" that Kennedy, Carlito, and Cody Rhodes will never be able to carry anything and move to make a Cena/Hogan superfeud and last until one of them dies. And even then they will book a decomposing Cena/Hogan feud.
KingofOldSchool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 03:57 PM   #50
Outsider
Just Some Guy
 
Posts: 14,679
Outsider has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Outsider has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Outsider has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Outsider has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Outsider has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Outsider has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Outsider has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Outsider has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Outsider has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Outsider has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)Outsider has 75,000 or more rep points (75,000+)
Just done an average, the average WCW Monday Nitro rating for 2001 was 2.71.

Good job Vince.
Outsider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 03:58 PM   #51
Anybody Thrilla
Cranky Kong
 
Anybody Thrilla's Avatar
 
Posts: 78,671
Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Anybody Thrilla makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
That was all Kwee Wee's fault.
Anybody Thrilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 03:59 PM   #52
KingofOldSchool
...IN HD!!!!
 
KingofOldSchool's Avatar
 
Posts: 23,327
KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Outsider
Just done an average, the average WCW Monday Nitro rating for 2001 was 2.71.

Good job Vince.


Man that is higher than the 2.5 Raw got.
KingofOldSchool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 04:04 PM   #53
Russenmafia
Scottish Champions 2009
 
Russenmafia's Avatar
 
Posts: 744
Russenmafia has more than 1,000 rep points (1,000+)Russenmafia has more than 1,000 rep points (1,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Splaya
Would it be the first time ever Smackdown gets a higher rating than RAW?
Khali as champ = Ratings!!
Russenmafia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 04:05 PM   #54
BigDaddyCool
Pelvic Sorcerer
 
BigDaddyCool's Avatar
 
Posts: 64,762
BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)BigDaddyCool makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
No, they should leave ECW alone, it good the way it is. I enjoy it more than anything else.

They need to figure out Raw.
BigDaddyCool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 04:06 PM   #55
JT
#1 Senior Elite Member
 
JT's Avatar
 
Posts: 7,886
JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kane Knight
The guy cares, he just has no clue how to change it.

Vince is a bad promoter.

Well Vince can almost be considered the greatest wrestling promoter of all time, as WWE has reached peaks only one other has come even close too. The problem he has is like most people...inability to change and ego that doesn't allow him to really listen to his companies fans but entertain himself. That's why Paul Heyman who was an absolutely terrible promoter suceeded...where he failed in business, he listened to his fans and had them interact with the product. He just didn't have the business sense to go further.
JT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 04:08 PM   #56
JT
#1 Senior Elite Member
 
JT's Avatar
 
Posts: 7,886
JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)JT is good (20,000+)
Vince: Oh no ratings are falling! It's time to bring back the Diva Search before it's too late!
JT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 04:11 PM   #57
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
No.
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 04:13 PM   #58
JTB31
 
Posts: 70
JTB31 does not have that much rep yet (10+)
DX=ratings

Raw has suffered with HHH&HBK.
JTB31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 04:20 PM   #59
addy2hotty
yes. yes. yes.
 
addy2hotty's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,753
addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)addy2hotty has a great deal of rep (15,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Kool
Well Vince can almost be considered the greatest wrestling promoter of all time, as WWE has reached peaks only one other has come even close too. The problem he has is like most people...inability to change and ego that doesn't allow him to really listen to his companies fans but entertain himself. That's why Paul Heyman who was an absolutely terrible promoter suceeded...where he failed in business, he listened to his fans and had them interact with the product. He just didn't have the business sense to go further.
We've got Cyber Sunday! What more interaction do we want?

At the next one, the vote will be put :-

How would YOU like John Cena to win his title match?

A. F-U
B. STF-U
C. A heard of elephants crush his opponent just as he appears like winning.
D. Spoiler:- Cena Wins
addy2hotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 04:38 PM   #60
Splaya
1-0 TPWW Chess Master
 
Posts: 17,211
Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Splaya got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The only way to end the ratings plunge is to not neccessarily end the brand extension, but, weed out all the unusable talent, stack your Monday nights with 2 hours of Supserstar talent (I'm talking upper midcard to top level talents) turn Smackdown into a show of the Cruiserweight title, unify the tag titles, and have maybe a 3rd title in the mix. Keep ECW the way it is, and on Raw have 1 Undisputed Champion, and the IC title.
Splaya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 04:43 PM   #61
SammyG
LAKE SHOW HOES
 
SammyG's Avatar
 
Posts: 25,764
SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)SammyG got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
Well, no shit. Leave Kennedy on camera for 2 hours, and you're gonna get ratings. If you don't, that's what happens.
SammyG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 04:54 PM   #62
HeartBreakMan2k
Franchise of TPWW
 
HeartBreakMan2k's Avatar
 
Posts: 15,458
HeartBreakMan2k puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)HeartBreakMan2k puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)HeartBreakMan2k puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)HeartBreakMan2k puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)HeartBreakMan2k puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)HeartBreakMan2k puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)HeartBreakMan2k puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)HeartBreakMan2k puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)HeartBreakMan2k puts the "bang" in Bangladesh (30,000+)
Honestly I think they've just got to make the product seem more legit. Like they need the big fight atmosphere that UFC is capitalizing on, and that they had with the likes of Lesnar. There is nothing "epic" about WWE anymore. That's going to be their ultimate downfall.
HeartBreakMan2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 04:56 PM   #63
6to1
 
Posts: 1,279
6to1 does not have that much rep yet (10+)
well tna is catching up raw keeps it up they will have the same number of fans as tna or roh
6to1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:05 PM   #64
Zen v.W.o.
GO HABS GO!
 
Zen v.W.o.'s Avatar
 
Posts: 4,018
Zen v.W.o. has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Zen v.W.o. has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Zen v.W.o. has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Zen v.W.o. has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Zen v.W.o. has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Zen v.W.o. has a great deal of rep (15,000+)Zen v.W.o. has a great deal of rep (15,000+)
You know the programming sucks when you can go months without seeing a raw where a certain segment stays in your mind for a long time. Nothing is memorable, they're all cut and dry, all the same shit repeatedly..there are no shocks, surprise moments, guys walking down to the ring to cut a promo immediately after a match that has shit all to do with him..no moments where you go, "hmm, this doesnt seem like it should be happening right about now."
Zen v.W.o. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:06 PM   #65
Shadow
Shadow Conspircy leader
 
Shadow's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,582
Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)Shadow got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
You know...there is a way to fix the WWE. And it wouldn't take that much effort at all.

Too bad it's more effort then Vince wants to put into the product.
Shadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:12 PM   #66
KingofOldSchool
...IN HD!!!!
 
KingofOldSchool's Avatar
 
Posts: 23,327
KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow
Raw needs more Jeff Hardy.
KingofOldSchool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:12 PM   #67
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow
You know...there is a way to fix the WWE. And it wouldn't take that much effort at all.

Too bad it's more effort then Vince wants to put into the product.
Benoit even showed him how.
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:13 PM   #68
KingofOldSchool
...IN HD!!!!
 
KingofOldSchool's Avatar
 
Posts: 23,327
KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6to1
well tna is catching up
No, it's not that TNA is catching up. It's more or less Raw catching up to TNA.
KingofOldSchool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:21 PM   #69
Innovator
Inno Knows.
 
Innovator's Avatar
 
Posts: 43,710
Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Innovator makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Lowest since October 27, 1997....ouch. That night got a 2.3

Nitro that night got a 4.3.....too bad all 4.3 of the audience have disappeared
Innovator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:22 PM   #70
Rob
Part time poster
 
Rob's Avatar
 
Posts: 22,963
Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by The One
LOL, I'm sorry, but, LOL.

Could not be more happy about this news. And I hope ratings continue to get worse, I hope USA backs out of their deal with WWE, I hope the entire industry is done away with. Honest to god I would rather it disappear/disassemble to the old territory system than continue on with the utter bullshit that has been displayed ever since the day after WrestleMania X-Seven. I would rather mourn the end of an era than sit by as it continues to make a mockery of one of the most entertaining products I had ever seen in my life.
WOW! Even I'm not this bad.

Firstly, territories are finished. They can't work anymore. Nobody in interested in regionalised wrestling and no TV companies will back it. Internet would ruin it anyway.

Secondly, they have had some very good shows since Mania 17. I can't believe you'd still watch a product that hasn't entertained you in over 5 years.
Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:22 PM   #71
6to1
 
Posts: 1,279
6to1 does not have that much rep yet (10+)
well same thing tna is doing good by not lossing fans they have about the same number for the past 3 years.
6to1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:24 PM   #72
KingofOldSchool
...IN HD!!!!
 
KingofOldSchool's Avatar
 
Posts: 23,327
KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6to1
well same thing tna is doing good by not lossing fans they have about the same number for the past 3 years.
So only drawing a hundred or so fans each show over the last 3 years should be considered a success?
KingofOldSchool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:30 PM   #73
6to1
 
Posts: 1,279
6to1 does not have that much rep yet (10+)
i ment the tv raitings not the freaks who get in to the tv shows
6to1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:35 PM   #74
KingofOldSchool
...IN HD!!!!
 
KingofOldSchool's Avatar
 
Posts: 23,327
KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6to1
i ment the tv raitings not the freaks who get in to the tv shows
Their ratings suck worse.
KingofOldSchool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:38 PM   #75
Rob
Part time poster
 
Rob's Avatar
 
Posts: 22,963
Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
So only drawing a hundred or so fans each show over the last 3 years should be considered a success?
They aren't drawing them because it's free entry.
Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:39 PM   #76
Kane Knight
Ron Paul 4 EVA
 
Kane Knight's Avatar
 
Posts: 152,467
Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)Kane Knight makes a lot of good posts (200,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6to1
i ment the tv raitings not the freaks who get in to the tv shows
But they're still not "catching up," which is what you claimed.
Kane Knight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:50 PM   #77
KingofOldSchool
...IN HD!!!!
 
KingofOldSchool's Avatar
 
Posts: 23,327
KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
They aren't drawing them because it's free entry.
Even the sporadic house shows they do?
KingofOldSchool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:53 PM   #78
Rob
Part time poster
 
Rob's Avatar
 
Posts: 22,963
Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)Rob has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
1PW does better than them then. ROH draws not much less.
Rob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 05:55 PM   #79
KingofOldSchool
...IN HD!!!!
 
KingofOldSchool's Avatar
 
Posts: 23,327
KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)KingofOldSchool has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Exactly my point, TNA doesn't do any better than random indy feds.

The only difference is that TNA has a TV deal.

I would imagine if ROH got a TV deal on another major cable network, they would get the same ratings TNA gets.
KingofOldSchool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2007, 06:31 PM   #80
The One
Boss
 
The One's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,611
The One has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)The One has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)The One has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)The One has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)The One has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)The One has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)The One has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)The One has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)The One has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)The One has a relatively large amount of rep (50,000+)
Well now let's call this fair here...TNA's ratings have been on an average going up over the past two years. Where once they averaged out around .7-.9 in 2005 they now average in the 1.0-1.2 range. Is it HUGE leaps and bounds they're making? No. But they are slowly improving. RAW on the other hand is make giant jumps downward. The fact that RAW is getting worse ratings at a quicker rate than TNA is getter better is irrelevant. TNA is improving, WWE is failing.

And while we're on the topic of TNA, I would like everyone to at least admit, they haven't always been perfect, but dammit they are making something out of themselves. Back when it was weekly PPV deals (and when I was probably most die hard towards the TNA Product) people said they wouldn't last 2 months. They made it, and despite large financial loses, they dug up some investors to back them until they could be stand alone. Then they landed on TV with FSN, and people said they would be canceled in a matter of weeks. They made a go, they continued to drop dollar and do all they could with their shitty ass time slot, their marginal talent roster (which at the time was being headlined by Jeff Hardy of all people), and they keep on chugging along. When they did get dropped by FSN and went to online videos, I don't recall a single person thinking they would be still putting on shows after the first one. Well dammit all, they signed with Spike, they are now a stand alone company who is FINALLY turned it around and is making solid profit, they are impressing the execs at Spike TV, are in line to get a 2nd hour for their programming, they have Kurt Angle at their helm, they are the only ones who have been able to use Christian to his full potential, they are no longer dropping jizz bombs on the X-Division, they aren't borrowing the legacy of the NWA anymore, they moved AJ Styles out of the main events, Jarrett began to take a backseat, they are working AND succeeding at creating their own stars (Styles, Daniels, Joe, Lethal, Sabin, Shelley, Roode, Young, and LAX), and their ratings are going up, which is far more than any other promotion can say. After nearly 4 years of proving the critics and cynics wrong, and now that they have a solid direction they're heading towards while accomplishing nearly every challenge armchair bookers have thrown at them, would it kill any of you to admit that TNA is possibly something more than a local indy who accidentally fell into the national spot light?
The One is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 2 of 4 1 2 34

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:46 AM.

Forums Home - TPWW - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin®