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Old 10-02-2007, 10:56 AM   #41
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Yeah, it is questionable as to whether or not WWE would be smart to schedule him for the PPV, what with Congress being interested in the wellness program, drugs, and worker safety.

I'm sure that he, like about 80% of the rest of the roster would work it if at all possible. I'm not even sure why Scot thinks we should give him props for that, since almost everyone else in the business, including lazy fucks like Taker, have worked through injuries before, and many of them shouldn't have (Batista, Rey Rey, Angle) and were stupid to have done so.

The list of wrestlers who have worked through an injury, even if you limit it to a fairly serious one is pretty long. This isn't a feather in your cap, it's generally an indication that you're a greedy little carnie. It's also bad for business, because it greatly increases the amount of time you need to heal more often than not.

But I digress.

It's probably a bad idea to offer up an injured wrestler right now.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:01 AM   #42
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He's going to James Andrews to get tested, see if he can work the PPV.

This is what can happen if WWE invests solely in one guy...I guess Trips is getting the title sooner than later.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:04 AM   #43
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If Cena can work, Orton is obviously going over.

If he can't, I'd say their best bet is to have Vince strip Cena and put whoever the "Savior" is in his spot.

Either way it gets the belt off Cena, and I can't complain about that.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:15 AM   #44
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Cena needs to drop the title to someone, or else what is the point of having a title riegn like that?
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:18 AM   #45
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If he can't work he can't work. I suppose, if they HAD to, they could have Orton KO him right off the bat, but either way he needs to drop it, can't have an essentially vacant title for a month or more, depending on how serious it is.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:21 AM   #46
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If he can't work he can't work. I suppose, if they HAD to, they could have Orton KO him right off the bat, but either way he needs to drop it, can't have an essentially vacant title for a month or more, depending on how serious it is.
He could lose it the way Taker' lost to Edge. For all the faults I find with 'Taker, at least he is willing to man up and work through injuries if need be.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:48 AM   #47
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Id set up an 7 man tourney for the vacant title

Orton (considering he was the #1 contender)
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Id have Hardy go over Carlito. Id have HHH lose to Umaga by Kennedy interference, and then vice versa having HHH having Kennedy lose to Foley. Thus starting the big HHH/Kennedy feud for down the line. In the semifinals Id have Orton beat Hardy and Foley beat Umaga. Then for the finals they could hype as can Foley get the WWE title one more time?????? Regal comes out and makes the title final a hardcore match. In a match thats almost as great as their Backlash 04 match, Orton wins the title by beating Foley. Orton gives an in-ring promo after the match bragging. Then one more video appears and the theme music hits and Jericho comes out and gives a promo. Thus with the tourney you can start a Jericho/Orton World Title feud, and the lengthy HHH/Kennedy/McMahon feud.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:13 PM   #48
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Madam Lackalack, Foley? Why the hell Foley? He sucks. He can't just come in and out when ever he wants. HBK would be a better choice...unless he is injured.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:30 PM   #49
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YAY, I may actually watch the last segment of Raw next week.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:35 PM   #50
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Cena could be confined to a wheelchair the rest of his life and he will STILL be booked to overcome the odds and retain the WWE title.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:38 PM   #51
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Cena could be confined to a wheelchair the rest of his life and he will STILL be booked to overcome the odds and retain the WWE title.
Yeah, I mean, just look at Hogan.
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BDC I put Foley in there because Lashley and HBK are hurt, and Booker right now is not returning.
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WWE might just keep the belt on Cena. If I am correct there was one or two times when Hogan was WCW champ where he made like 2 defenses in 8 months and just gave promos and stuff.
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Yeah, I mean, just look at Hogan.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:38 PM   #55
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WWE might just keep the belt on Cena. If I am correct there was one or two times when Hogan was WCW champ where he made like 2 defenses in 8 months and just gave promos and stuff.
Last time I checked, you have to defend a title once every 90 days to retain. So, depending on his condition, he can be out for a for 2 months then come back and make a defence against a push over.
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Last time I checked, you have to defend a title once every 90 days to retain. So, depending on his condition, he can be out for a for 2 months then come back and make a defence against a push over.

There's rules?
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Yeah, there are a certain set of fact rules about that kind of crap. It has been mentioned before that you have 90 days to defend your title before the promotion can choose to strip you of the title.

Also, speaking of stripping the title, where the hell was Coach this week? And why didn't Vince give a crap about Cena still being champ this week. Damn WWE and its plot holes. And I'm possitive that Regal would have had no problem with stripping Cena this week, as Cena was the one that put Regal off TV for a month.
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:04 PM   #58
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:06 PM   #59
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I've seen wrestlers stripped of the belt because they didn't defend in 30 days...rules you say?
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:25 PM   #60
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I've seen wrestlers stripped of the belt because they didn't defend in 30 days...rules you say?
Yeah, the rules are hardly set in stone. It changes between 90 60 and 30 and promotion and who is champion.
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where the hell was Coach this week? And why didn't Vince give a crap about Cena still being champ this week.
Vince played up Coach’s supposed “injury” (come on, people!) as a result of him being put through a table last week. And to your other question, maybe Vince decided he better not test Hornswoggle again after giving him authority to make “executive decisions” or whatever the fuck, last week, and decided to let “Mr. McMahon (Jr.)” ’s decision stand. As for why Regal wouldn’t do anything about it, honestly, I have no clue, as you said he had every reason to be pissed at Cena. Maybe he foresaw the injury coming in the Kennedy match, and watched the main event backstage with Snitsky, as Cena's pain, on that night became both of their pleasures...
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So Cena may only have to defend it once every 180 Days to retain right?
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I've seen wrestlers stripped of the belt because they didn't defend in 30 days...rules you say?
Can anyone say Edge? He's been out since July, but they stripped him of the title right away due to injury.
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Yeah, it is questionable as to whether or not WWE would be smart to schedule him for the PPV, what with Congress being interested in the wellness program, drugs, and worker safety.

I'm sure that he, like about 80% of the rest of the roster would work it if at all possible. I'm not even sure why Scot thinks we should give him props for that, since almost everyone else in the business, including lazy fucks like Taker, have worked through injuries before, and many of them shouldn't have (Batista, Rey Rey, Angle) and were stupid to have done so.

The list of wrestlers who have worked through an injury, even if you limit it to a fairly serious one is pretty long. This isn't a feather in your cap, it's generally an indication that you're a greedy little carnie. It's also bad for business, because it greatly increases the amount of time you need to heal more often than not.

But I SHIT FUCK COCKSUCKER

It's probably a bad idea to offer up an injured wrestler right now.
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T-Lo acknowledged the 30 day rule on Smackdown when Edge got injured, but said something to the degree of "but in all fairness to the interest of the Smackdown fans we need to decide a new champion". Something like that anyway...
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No Mercy will represent the end of an era for John Cena and the beginning of a new one for one Superstar as a new WWE Champion will be crowned.

For more than a year, John Cena proudly held the WWE Championship. He turned back all challengers, but an injury brought an end to his nearly 13-month title reign. Cena suffered a complete tear of his right pectoral tendon during a match with Mr. Kennedy on Raw. Because of the seriousness of the injury, WWE officials will not allow Cena to compete in his scheduled Last Man Standing Match with Randy Orton at No Mercy, and had no choice but to surrender the title.

Cena’s injury represents a new opportunity for several WWE Superstars. Orton has shown that he will do anything for the WWE Championship. Mr. Kennedy has long said that he is the future of WWE and believes he has a point to prove. And what about Intercontinental Champion Jeff Hardy, who has received very few WWE Championship opportunities in his career? Or does Cena’s injury represent a new opportunity for a Superstar who is not a member of the Raw locker room?

Details at this time are unclear. One thing is certain, however: There will be a WWE Championship Match this Sunday at No Mercy, and a new WWE Champion will be crowned.

Who will be the next WWE Champion? The only way to find out is to catch No Mercy, live on pay-per-view on Sunday, Oct. 7 at 8/7 CT. Stay with WWE.com for more updates on No Mercy and the WWE Championship Match as they become available.

Check out Cena's Beware of Dog and Orton's Skull t-shirt at WWEShop...
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Old 10-02-2007, 06:16 PM   #68
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I've always hated his "reign" as a champion, but I didnt want to see it end like this. Because he held it soo long WWE makes you feel like when he loses it, the next few weeks feel awkward. Plus an armdrag is no way to cause you to lose anything..
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Old 10-02-2007, 06:25 PM   #69
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Old 10-02-2007, 06:51 PM   #71
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This could be WWEs opportunity to end the RAW/Smackdown roster split.

Hold up the WWE title until Cyber Sunday, and make a "fans vote" as to which kind of match to have. The numbers add up to a 40 man over the top rope battle royal, and have whoever is WHC, as long as it's not Khali, win the WWE title, and unify the titles.
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Old 10-02-2007, 06:56 PM   #72
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Why end the roster split??? As much as I want to see Taker on raw, what will they do when everybody who's injured and/or suspended will be back??
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:01 PM   #73
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Just checked WWE.com, looks like Cena isn't going to wrestle at No Mercy. The headline is new champ to be crowned at the PPV. Guess, he didn't get cleared.
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:22 PM   #74
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OMG CENA IS A PUSSY HE SHOULD HAVE SUCKED IT UP!

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Old 10-02-2007, 07:42 PM   #75
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A poll on WWE.com:

Who would you like to see walk away from the WWE Championship Match at No Mercy as the new champ?
Brian Kendrick 0.33 %
Carlito 0.82 %
Charlie Haas 0.13 %
Cody Rhodes 0.59 %
Daivari 0.50 %
Hacksaw Jim Duggan 0.49 %
Hardcore Holly 0.22 %
Jeff Hardy 5.25 %
King Booker 0.47 %
Lance Cade 0.15 %
Mr. Kennedy 15.67 %
Paul London 1.67 %
Randy Orton 4.38 %
Robbie McAllister 0.17 %
Ron Simmons 1.44 %
Rory McAllister 0.09 %
Santino Marella 1.83 %
Shelton Benjamin 2.07 %
Snitsky 0.60 %
Super Crazy 0.28 %
Trevor Murdoch 2.13 %
Triple H 18.50 %
Umaga 0.97 %
Val Venis 41.14 %
Total Votes: 240694
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Can we please just stick with this thread for the Cena injury shit? We don't need two, and this was ifrst.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:30 PM   #77
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A poll on WWE.com:

Who would you like to see walk away from the WWE Championship Match at No Mercy as the new champ?
Brian Kendrick 0.33 %
Carlito 0.82 %
Charlie Haas 0.13 %
Cody Rhodes 0.59 %
Daivari 0.50 %
Hacksaw Jim Duggan 0.49 %
Hardcore Holly 0.22 %
Jeff Hardy 5.25 %
King Booker 0.47 %
Lance Cade 0.15 %
Mr. Kennedy 15.67 %
Paul London 1.67 %
Randy Orton 4.38 %
Robbie McAllister 0.17 %
Ron Simmons 1.44 %
Rory McAllister 0.09 %
Santino Marella 1.83 %
Shelton Benjamin 2.07 %
Snitsky 0.60 %
Super Crazy 0.28 %
Trevor Murdoch 2.13 %
Triple H 18.50 %
Umaga 0.97 %
Val Venis 41.14 %
Total Votes: 240694
That's one of the reasons why WWE doesn't take internet marks seriously.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:35 PM   #78
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Actually they use the polls to help determine story lines etc. Granted they dont rely heavily on it, but still factor. For example when they see that in a poll with John Cena in it there is 78 % towards him, they are pleased that marks enjoy the product.
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Actually they use the polls to help determine story lines etc. Granted they dont rely heavily on it, but still factor. For example when they see that in a poll with John Cena in it there is 78 % towards him, they are pleased that marks enjoy the product.
Oh really?

Then how come Stevie Richards started getting depushed at the same time he came in second in the "Who is Vince's son" poll?
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Oh really?Then how come Stevie Richards started getting depushed at the same time he came in second in the "Who is Vince's son" poll?
Hey I dont want to start an online fight or whatever, but I'm just saying what I've heard from several several wrestling "Sources". Plus you said it yourself, he came in SECOND. As much as I love Big Stevie Cool, you cant argue with 1'st and 2nd.
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