Will the NFL step in if the Pats keep "piling on the points unnecessarily"? - Page 2

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-30-2007, 03:14 PM

Yeah you are so tough, you would show Belichick and all of New England who the boss is

**Stickman** · 10-30-2007, 03:26 PM

If you go for it on 4th down and don't make it, the other team is going to have great field position, so what's wrong with that?

**Stickman** · 10-30-2007, 03:26 PM

Basically the Pats are pissed off that they got caught cheating, even though every team does it, so they're giving it "to the man" by running up the score.

RP · 10-30-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34

Yeah you are so tough, you would show Belichick and all of New England who the boss is

What on earth are you fucking talking about? Tough? Huh? I'm not gunna beat the guy up? WHAT TEH FUCK ARE YOU SAYING?

**Mercury Bullet** · 10-30-2007, 04:10 PM

I mean, it is kind of a dickhead thing to do...but what...should the NFL establish rules against scoring points or something? No. For the league to take any action would be absurd. If they want to run up the score, they have the right to run up the score. Scoring is part of the game and even if people don't agree with it, tough shit. You can't put some kind of cap on scoring. Let the media and the fans slam it if they want but the league will stay out of it.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-30-2007, 07:09 PM

In Connecticut HS football, if you beat the other team by 50+ points the coach gets suspended for the next game.

I just think this whole thing is funny because from what I've heard Gibbs didn't seem to care about the Pats scoring (I haven't actually seen it tho)

**UmbrellaCorporation** · 10-30-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34

In Connecticut HS football, if you beat the other team by 50+ points the coach gets suspended for the next game.

LOL, WHAT? Why?

For the record, I don't understand what the problem is with running up the score. Save the other team humiliation? Who gives a shit? The offense is paid to score, and the other team's defense is paid to stop it. If they can't, tough shit.

My applause goes to the Patriots for being able to do it.

**#1-norm-fan** · 10-30-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UmbrellaCorporation

LOL, WHAT? Why?

For the record, I don't understand what the problem is with running up the score. Save the other team humiliation? Who gives a shit? The offense is paid to score, and the other team's defense is paid to stop it. If they can't, tough shit.

My applause goes to the Patriots for being able to do it.

All true.

This entire argument just comes down to where you believe the line is between crushing your opponent and showing the respect of just ending it.

Personally, I think once you've proven your point by demolishing a team 42-0 with very little time left, you should show them some respect by just trying to end the game as quickly as possible.

**darkpower** · 10-31-2007, 08:01 AM

I think I can see both sides of this.

I think the issue is that the Pats are TRYING to run up the score to make a statement that has already been made. If your second string and third strings are still scoring points by driving the ball down the field by getting first downs and running out the clock, then yeah, don't fucking whine about it that you can't give them a 3 and out.

However, if a coach, up 48-0 in the 4th with 10:00 left, and he still has all his 1st string players out there, throwing the ball deep, going for it on a 4th and forever, then yeah, you not only run the risk of making people believe that you think you are above the game and lose respect of those that believe that mercy should be shown, but you also take the serious risk of your starters getting injured, which I think is the REAL reason they should stop doing this. What if Brady gets injured because someone decided to show THEM up, or if Moss suddenly comes down wrong on his ankles trying to go for one of those deep balls? What if you don't have those key players when you NEED them because you decided that you are above the game? And the Pats are going to NEED them for some key games that could expose them if they are not careful. Sure, it might be a cool thing to do, but not smart at all, and Billichek looks more of a cocksucker than he already IS by doing so.

I've heard about that Conn. rule, too, and I think that's kind of pushing THAT somewhat the way it is written. That's why I can see that from the other angle on this.

**Londoner** · 10-31-2007, 08:19 AM

Lol..people arguing its disrespectful really dont 'get' sport. In football over here(soccer) if somebody like Man utd beats some shit team 9-0for example(which has happened), we just accept it and look back on it as a classic match, the same should be done in NFL. So what if its disrespectful?Its a fucking game. What i think the distance of how big the score proves is how big the gap is between the two teams and thats what the more dominant team wants to show. And if the weaker team ever wants to understand their weaknesses and improve, then there shouldnt be anything wrong with a better team beating them badly and revealing those weaknesses. Some american sports fans are such cry babies with this stuff, they'll complain over anything.

**VonErichLives** · 10-31-2007, 10:35 AM

I find it funny Godfrey was crying about getting his butt kicked yet Gibbs came out and said he has no problems with anything Belicheck did.

RP · 10-31-2007, 10:36 AM

What do you want Gibbs to do? Go out there and start whining and crying about being treated badly? A legend coach dont do that. They just move on and remember.

**Evil Vito** · 10-31-2007, 06:43 PM

Tony Kornheiser today theorized that anybody who injures Tom Brady is gonna get a year-long suspension. Gonna be interesting to see if a team like the Eagles decide to do it anyway

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 10-31-2007, 06:52 PM

It's not like they pulled the Buddy Ryan move of faking a kneel down only to have the QB throw a bomb to a wideout for a TD with no time left. Somebody might take a shot at Brady but there would be such backlash against that person's image if it is blatantly obvious that I'm not really sure. If teams feel like the Pats are running up the score the only payback is to run up the score against them when given the opportunity.

**VonErichLives** · 10-31-2007, 08:55 PM

last time I remember a player purposely trying to injur was that guy from greenbay who slammed jim mcmahon after a play... anyone remember what penalty he got?

**Londoner** · 11-01-2007, 08:14 AM

Lol, you wanna talk about being disrespectful..a classic example of how we just get on with it in football happened last night. Madrid played valencia at valencias home ground and valencia are in crisis atm, did madrid give a shit?Nope. they were 4-0 up inside 36 mins of the first half and tbh at one point i was thinking this is going to be atleast 10-0. And tbh it could've been had it not been for the ref letting valencia off with poor offside decisions. madrid won 5-1, but it couldve been more. But you know, theres a lesson in heavy defeats, it wouldn't be as fun if things like that never happened.

**Nervous Ferret** · 11-05-2007, 12:26 AM

lol love the poll

**Funky Fly** · 11-05-2007, 01:45 AM

What the fucking fuck? These guys are being paid millions upon millions to play a fucking game. If they are so shit that they can't put up even a little resistance then they shouldn't be bitching about being disrespected, they should retire and make way for someone who won't cry about it. This isn't some pee wee shit, it's professional level sports. That means you go out there and you play to the best of your abilities from start to finish. It's not professional to ease up because the other guy sucks. You give people their god damn money's worth. I can't believe that supposed tough guys are crying about this.

Unbelievable.

**Londoner** · 11-05-2007, 04:15 PM

Well said funky.

**Londoner** · 11-05-2007, 04:17 PM

Btw lol@ the poll...maybe were piling on the points unnecessarily for no? Should we make a rule where we have to give the other option a chance to catch up?(THAT WAS SARCASM OBVIOUSLY...)

**Funky Fly** · 11-05-2007, 06:53 PM

Shit still makes me ANGRY.

**#1-norm-fan** · 11-13-2007, 04:21 AM

I think if the players or coach complains about the opposing team piling on, then that's retarded. You're just making yourself look worse by whining.

However from an outsider's perspective, disrespectful.

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10-30-2007, 03:14 PM	#41
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Yeah you are so tough, you would show Belichick and all of New England who the boss is

10-30-2007, 03:26 PM	#42
Stickman Stickman Posts: 15,119	If you go for it on 4th down and don't make it, the other team is going to have great field position, so what's wrong with that?

10-30-2007, 04:10 PM	#45
Mercury Bullet The Year of the Bullet Posts: 4,259	I mean, it is kind of a dickhead thing to do...but what...should the NFL establish rules against scoring points or something? No. For the league to take any action would be absurd. If they want to run up the score, they have the right to run up the score. Scoring is part of the game and even if people don't agree with it, tough shit. You can't put some kind of cap on scoring. Let the media and the fans slam it if they want but the league will stay out of it.

10-30-2007, 07:09 PM	#46
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	In Connecticut HS football, if you beat the other team by 50+ points the coach gets suspended for the next game. I just think this whole thing is funny because from what I've heard Gibbs didn't seem to care about the Pats scoring (I haven't actually seen it tho)

10-31-2007, 08:01 AM	#49
darkpower Why So Curious? Posts: 3,408	I think I can see both sides of this. I think the issue is that the Pats are TRYING to run up the score to make a statement that has already been made. If your second string and third strings are still scoring points by driving the ball down the field by getting first downs and running out the clock, then yeah, don't fucking whine about it that you can't give them a 3 and out. However, if a coach, up 48-0 in the 4th with 10:00 left, and he still has all his 1st string players out there, throwing the ball deep, going for it on a 4th and forever, then yeah, you not only run the risk of making people believe that you think you are above the game and lose respect of those that believe that mercy should be shown, but you also take the serious risk of your starters getting injured, which I think is the REAL reason they should stop doing this. What if Brady gets injured because someone decided to show THEM up, or if Moss suddenly comes down wrong on his ankles trying to go for one of those deep balls? What if you don't have those key players when you NEED them because you decided that you are above the game? And the Pats are going to NEED them for some key games that could expose them if they are not careful. Sure, it might be a cool thing to do, but not smart at all, and Billichek looks more of a cocksucker than he already IS by doing so. I've heard about that Conn. rule, too, and I think that's kind of pushing THAT somewhat the way it is written. That's why I can see that from the other angle on this.

10-31-2007, 08:19 AM	#50
Londoner One Of A Kind Posts: 22,178	Lol..people arguing its disrespectful really dont 'get' sport. In football over here(soccer) if somebody like Man utd beats some shit team 9-0for example(which has happened), we just accept it and look back on it as a classic match, the same should be done in NFL. So what if its disrespectful?Its a fucking game. What i think the distance of how big the score proves is how big the gap is between the two teams and thats what the more dominant team wants to show. And if the weaker team ever wants to understand their weaknesses and improve, then there shouldnt be anything wrong with a better team beating them badly and revealing those weaknesses. Some american sports fans are such cry babies with this stuff, they'll complain over anything.

10-31-2007, 10:35 AM	#51
VonErichLives DU's illegitimate brother Posts: 3,685	I find it funny Godfrey was crying about getting his butt kicked yet Gibbs came out and said he has no problems with anything Belicheck did.

10-31-2007, 10:36 AM	#52
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,993	What do you want Gibbs to do? Go out there and start whining and crying about being treated badly? A legend coach dont do that. They just move on and remember.

10-31-2007, 06:43 PM	#53
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,383	Tony Kornheiser today theorized that anybody who injures Tom Brady is gonna get a year-long suspension. Gonna be interesting to see if a team like the Eagles decide to do it anyway

10-31-2007, 06:52 PM	#54
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	It's not like they pulled the Buddy Ryan move of faking a kneel down only to have the QB throw a bomb to a wideout for a TD with no time left. Somebody might take a shot at Brady but there would be such backlash against that person's image if it is blatantly obvious that I'm not really sure. If teams feel like the Pats are running up the score the only payback is to run up the score against them when given the opportunity.

10-31-2007, 08:55 PM	#55
VonErichLives DU's illegitimate brother Posts: 3,685	last time I remember a player purposely trying to injur was that guy from greenbay who slammed jim mcmahon after a play... anyone remember what penalty he got?

11-01-2007, 08:14 AM	#56
Londoner One Of A Kind Posts: 22,178	Lol, you wanna talk about being disrespectful..a classic example of how we just get on with it in football happened last night. Madrid played valencia at valencias home ground and valencia are in crisis atm, did madrid give a shit?Nope. they were 4-0 up inside 36 mins of the first half and tbh at one point i was thinking this is going to be atleast 10-0. And tbh it could've been had it not been for the ref letting valencia off with poor offside decisions. madrid won 5-1, but it couldve been more. But you know, theres a lesson in heavy defeats, it wouldn't be as fun if things like that never happened.

11-05-2007, 12:26 AM	#57
Nervous Ferret love yourself Posts: 47,788	lol love the poll

11-05-2007, 01:45 AM	#58
Funky Fly The Satanic Mechanic Posts: 52,521	What the fucking fuck? These guys are being paid millions upon millions to play a fucking game. If they are so shit that they can't put up even a little resistance then they shouldn't be bitching about being disrespected, they should retire and make way for someone who won't cry about it. This isn't some pee wee shit, it's professional level sports. That means you go out there and you play to the best of your abilities from start to finish. It's not professional to ease up because the other guy sucks. You give people their god damn money's worth. I can't believe that supposed tough guys are crying about this. Unbelievable.

11-05-2007, 04:15 PM	#59
Londoner One Of A Kind Posts: 22,178	Well said funky.

11-05-2007, 04:17 PM	#60
Londoner One Of A Kind Posts: 22,178	Btw lol@ the poll...maybe were piling on the points unnecessarily for no? Should we make a rule where we have to give the other option a chance to catch up?(THAT WAS SARCASM OBVIOUSLY...)

11-05-2007, 06:53 PM	#61
Funky Fly The Satanic Mechanic Posts: 52,521	Shit still makes me ANGRY.

11-13-2007, 04:21 AM	#62
#1-norm-fan Resident drug enabler Posts: 45,473	I think if the players or coach complains about the opposing team piling on, then that's retarded. You're just making yourself look worse by whining. However from an outsider's perspective, disrespectful.