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Old 03-11-2004, 10:54 AM   #41
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Basically, your whole theory stinks. You need to have experience to win in the playoffs is basically what you are saying, so basically no new team can ever win in the playoffs. With this logic, the Jazz should still be trying to make a run to beat the Bulls in the NBA Finals. Wait though, those teams have changed, they no longer have the same players and are no longer good, so we won't be seeing them in the NBA Finals anytime soon.

Two years ago, the Nets made the NBA Finals for the first time in their franchise history, they had no playoff experience, how does that work with this logic? The Spurs hadn't done anything spectacular in the playoffs since 1999, but they took it all last year. Of course a team like Memphis isn't expected to go through the first round of the playoffs this year, that doesn't rule them out of going to the second round next year.

Both the Timberwolves and the Spurs totally changed their core players over the offseason. The Spurs added Rasho, Turkolu, and Ward as their biggest additions in the past year, none of those guys have proven that they can win a championship, especially Rasho who was a major part in all of the Timberwolves losses of the past. The Timberwolves, on the other hand, added Cassell, Sprewell, Olowokandi, Madsen, Johnson, Hoiberg, Oliver Miller, and Hassell. To judge a team who has changed all but four of their players from last year is cursed is just ignorant. The Timberwolves you are seeing in the playoffs is a team that you have never seen before, simple as that.

The whole key to the Spurs success will be Tony Parker, who more than anyone else being discussed in this topic at all has yet to proove himself in the playoffs. If Parker can play at his peak, he is almost unstoppable, the key word there is the if.
It's not my theory that stinks, it's your interpretation of it. For me to say no new team can win in the postseason would be stupid, but that's not what I'm saying, though you may want me to think so. I've seen teams that have never won advance, but I still don't think the Wolves will be one of those teams this year. Experience is a plus. It's not a prerequisite to winning. Having been deep into the playoffs, I think, is an advantage because it is nothing new to a team that has been there.

The Spurs haven't done anything spectacular in the playoffs since 1999. It's amazing that you would even fix your hands to type such stupidity. How can you talk about SA's playoff failures when the Wolves' entire playoff history is based on failure? Two of those seasons they didn't win, they did lose to the eventual champion and the other Tim Duncan was injured and they lost to Phoenix in the first round. At least they lost in the first round without Duncan.
Memphis will be good in about three or four years, no sooner. I see Houston going to Round 2 before I see Memphis there. I can even see Houston beating the Wolves, just like they did last Friday.

The Spurs only replaced David Robinson and added some bench players. They still have the same core. The Wolves have changed their core considerably. Well, KG was their core before this season. The Spurs added Nesterovic, Turkoglu, and Charlie Ward and none of these guys have proven that they can win a championship? You say that like these guys were former franchise players. Besides, individual players don't win titles, teams do. You talk about theories that stink. With this logic, let's say the Spurs add a player like Jermaine O'Neal. Surely this guy has never won a championship, so.....No, I really don't see your point. Among the players added by the Wolves, only Cassell and Madsen have won titles and only Cassell was an actual contributor, as was stated in a previous post. I don't understand how you tried to construe my words as if I said you need experience to win in the playoffs, yet you are saying that certain players the Spurs added haven't won a championship. That entire third paragraph was a pointless ramble. Didn't the Spurs add Robert Horry,a 5-time champion, also? That doesn't matter because you think he sucks anyway, don't you?

I guess Tim Duncan won't have anything to do with the Spurs trying to repeat. Tony Parker, more than anyone discussed in this topic has yet to prove himself in the playoffs? Oh my God. I just can't believe you would say something like that. You don't believe that yourself. Well, KG is being discussed more than any other great player in the entire NBA abbout having yet to prove himself in the playoffs. You prove yourself by winning. I just can't undesrtand why you would say these asinine things.

Yeah, the Wolves are a team I've never seen before. So what? The Lakers are a team I've never seen before either. You make it sound like it's a warning or something.
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I can't argue Spree and Alien, but Kandi, who's had his ass glued to the IL ALL YEAR? Mark Madsen and E.J who are scrubs? Hoiberg and Hassell who warmed the BULLS bench last year? Are you fucking kidding me?! BTW, how big is Oliver now? 400 lbs? 450?
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The Kings! They WILL do it this time. They WILL NOT choke. The Rock WILL wrestle more than once a year.......
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The Pistons would get owned if they played in the west.


MY JAZZ ARE GONNA MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!!!! Sloan for coach of the year!!!


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I can't argue Spree and Alien, but Kandi, who's had his ass glued to the IL ALL YEAR? Mark Madsen and E.J who are scrubs? Hoiberg and Hassell who warmed the BULLS bench last year? Are you fucking kidding me?! BTW, how big is Oliver now? 400 lbs? 450?
Hassell holds down everyone, EJ held down DUNCAN the other night, Madsen is no scrub, he's a hard-nosed, tough player who most teams would love to have on their bench.

Pig Miller came here from the Globetrotters. He's way underrated, and we picked him up mid-season floating adrift in Free Agency. When most East teams have no Centers, the Wolves are pretty set there.

And Hoiberg, while streaky, can destroy you when he's streaking.
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um. pig miller is Anthony Miller, not Oliver Miller.
 
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I hate Kobe as much as the next person but its pretty impressive that he basically gets off a plane and then almost drops 40 on the best team in the NBA
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Speaking of the Pistons owning the West, they lost to the Spurs last night. Hehe.
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Cant' even beat the Spurs, what the deuce? The Spurs have to lose every game from now on for the Wolves to stand a chance
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Lakers handed us our asses...

Sad...

Specially after a great win over Houston...

We're still going all the way this year mofos..

Kings/Hornets
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If Sacramento faces the Lakers, they may not make it.
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Hmmm, maybe that's because no one on Dallas plays Defense...
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bigger story is that philly beat dallas without iverson.

and dave, steve nash and eduardo najera play defense.
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bigger story is that philly beat dallas without iverson.

and dave, steve nash and eduardo najera play defense.

Najera plays how much though?

and Nash can't guard 5 guys at once....
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yeah i know, i'm just saying guys like nash and najera shouldve be given a bad rap on D just cuz the rest of the team sucks
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lol

The Rockets lost to the Suns a couple of days ago.

SAD.

Every team has their day. The regular season doesnt mean shit except for home advantage in the playoffs.
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Sorry guys. Lakers have the title wrapped up, especially after destroying the two best teams in the West. They play like this and it'll be 2001 again: Lakers will not lose another game (okay, so they lost to the Phillies in game 1, but that was an obvious fluke).
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Sorry guys. Lakers have the title wrapped up, especially after destroying the two best teams in the West. They play like this and it'll be 2001 again: Lakers will not lose another game (okay, so they lost to the Phillies in game 1, but that was an obvious fluke).
I bet you're also a Yankee's fan...

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Nope. Angels fan. I despise the Yanks.
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The Timberwolves are damn lucky right now. We have lost so many games in the past few weeks that San Antonio could be like 5 games ahead of us, but somehow we are still winning the division. I don't think there will be much movement in the rest of the regular season.
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The Timberwolves are damn lucky right now. We have lost so many games in the past few weeks that San Antonio could be like 5 games ahead of us, but somehow we are still winning the division. I don't think there will be much movement in the rest of the regular season.
*see 3rd through 5th seeds*
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I meant in those seeds. My bad.

BTW, I hope Cleveland makes the playoffs in the East instead of Boston or Philly.
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Sorry guys. Lakers have the title wrapped up, especially after destroying the two best teams in the West. They play like this and it'll be 2001 again: Lakers will not lose another game (okay, so they lost to the Phillies in game 1, but that was an obvious fluke).
If the refs continue to lick the Lakers' balls, then the Lakers will repeat again. I mean, the refs have never called anything on Shaq or Kobe, or Malone for that matter. Payton gets the Technicals and such, but he's a Laker, so why not? Even Bill Walton, the biggest Lakers lover in the world, admitted the Officiating was horrid in the Wolves game.

Reminds me of the playoffs last year. HMM!
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I didn't want to say anything, but from what I watched the Refs were calling a bunch of shit on the Timberwolves and not the Lakers. Not trying to make excuses, the Wolves played like shit and would have lost regardless.
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He is a crybaby because he says he wants to be traded and he's gonna leave because the fans dont respect him. And you know since he's a liar and all and since the Kings havent been very good since he came back Im pretty sure the fans have a good reason to boo.
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Old 03-30-2004, 03:17 PM   #74
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If he's playing well but the team isn't gelling, it's part of the ****ing game, you know? The Wolves can't buy a win since their whole roster got healthy. Too much depth. They've won TWO STRAIGHT against scrubs, so maybe it's time they turned it around, but you understand too many cooks in the kitchen spoils the soup.

They shouldn't boo C-Webb if the ENTIRE TEAM can't win.

They know they can win without him, but they'll be much better if they can win with him.
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Old 03-30-2004, 06:37 PM   #75
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The Kings, Spurs, and Timberwolves have all been struggling as of late, but they got themselves in good enough position so that it's not affecting their playoff seedings. If one of those teams can get their games together by then, things could be snazzy. Otherwise, unfortunately I think the Lakers are the hottest team as of right now.
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Old 04-01-2004, 12:52 AM   #76
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Spurs ALL UP ON THE Kings
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Old 04-01-2004, 10:46 AM   #77
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Imagine if the Kings keep losing and end up facing the Lakers in the 1st or 2nd round? That would rule. Kings may be slumping, but vs the Lakers YOU KNOW IT WILL BE ON.
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Not that many games for them to end up 7th/8th place.

I think the Kings are overrated myself and they need a reality bitchslap.
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Below .500 Eastern Confrence team will have home court in the playoffs

Something needs to be done to fix this
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change it to a North and South divisions.



Also swap Memphis with Milwaukee and Chicago with one of the Texas teams.
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