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Old 12-21-2007, 05:37 PM   #41
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The only plausible debate is Ali vs Jordan.
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Old 12-21-2007, 06:14 PM   #42
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And Ali wins.

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Old 12-21-2007, 07:53 PM   #43
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I honestly cannot believe nearly 50% of people have said Jordan is the biggest sports icon ever, I mean its insane to think its anybody but Ali. Honestly I'm shocked, especially by guys with some smarts like the Rza.
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Old 12-21-2007, 08:22 PM   #44
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In my defense I forget about Ali when I voted
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Old 12-21-2007, 08:27 PM   #45
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Old 12-22-2007, 06:10 AM   #46
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It's not so much the individual's accomplishments as it is his ability to captivate an audience. It's a lot easier to do that when there is a good back story to go with the competition. I think one of the key differences that put Jordan and Ali above Tiger and Gretzky is that Jordan and Ali had clear rivalries with opponents who could be easily identified as the villains in the battle. Jordan had the Pistons, Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, and Karl Malone who were all more than happy to be labeled the bad guys playing against the heroic Jordan. Ali had Joe Frazier which we really don't need to go into detail about.

Who did Gretzky have to face? The Islanders? The Flames? Sure, there were some good rivalries but nothing that captivated the viewing audience to the extent of anything Jordan and Ali had. As for Woods, no one is even close to challenging him. The only other golfer I've ever considered close to being able to compete with Tiger was David Duval and then he had a mental breakdown and hasn't come close to regaining his old form. There's just not enough drama with Gretzky and Tiger to compel more people to pay attention to how amazing they are/were.
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Old 12-22-2007, 05:14 PM   #47
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It's not so much the individual's accomplishments as it is his ability to captivate an audience. It's a lot easier to do that when there is a good back story to go with the competition. I think one of the key differences that put Jordan and Ali above Tiger and Gretzky is that Jordan and Ali had clear rivalries with opponents who could be easily identified as the villains in the battle. Jordan had the Pistons, Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, and Karl Malone who were all more than happy to be labeled the bad guys playing against the heroic Jordan.

You're wrong. Charles Barkley and the Suns were the heroes.
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Old 12-22-2007, 08:08 PM   #48
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I'd have to go with Bob Sanders
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Old 12-22-2007, 09:11 PM   #49
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Michael Jordan is not really a big deal anywhere outside of the USA. Gretzky is not really a big deal anywhere outside of Canada. More people have heard of Ali, so I do believe he is the bigger icon.
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Old 12-22-2007, 10:21 PM   #50
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Ali, no contest.

Jordan and Gretzky don't even make the list.
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Old 12-23-2007, 01:20 AM   #51
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Nobody outside the US or Canada gives a fuck about Gretzky or Ice Hockey.

Where abouts would Babe Ruth come on the list?
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Old 12-23-2007, 01:34 AM   #52
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1. ALI
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Old 12-23-2007, 05:12 PM   #54
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Old 12-23-2007, 07:35 PM   #55
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Old 12-23-2007, 08:40 PM   #56
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Old 12-23-2007, 08:42 PM   #57
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Old 12-23-2007, 09:56 PM   #58
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Fuck sake all Jordan did was throw a ball into a basket.
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Old 12-23-2007, 10:47 PM   #60
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Jordan only ever dominated America

Very untrue. He's certainly a Worldwide sports hero. Not disagreeing about Ali, but Jordan is not only big or dominate in America
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:16 PM   #62
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Ali, no contest.

Jordan and Gretzky don't even make the list.
what? Jordan doesn't even make the list?

I did forget about Ali when making the topic but if someone ever says biggest sports icon I think Jordan
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Old 12-24-2007, 03:36 AM   #63
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Fuck sake all Jordan did was throw a ball into a basket.
All Ali did was punch people. All Gretzky did was put pucks in the net.

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Old 12-25-2007, 09:45 PM   #66
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Ali for sure, but for football I'd put Beckham ahead of Maradona or Pele, although Pele played in America he did it after his prime, Beckham has done it whilst he could still play at the top level.

Massive in Asia, Europe and North America, he is probably the best known sports icon but mainly because he whores himself out so much. Maradona did that photo with his wanger out, if Becks had done that it would be all over the place because although he isn't as talented and hasn't lead a team to World Cup glory he has so much publicity about him and whores himself out immensely.

Ali was obviously more inspirational, straight talking, charismatic and better at his sport, and being black he was an icon for them etc etc, he is probably talked about now so much more then Beckham will be in 10-40 years. Definitely Ali, Jordan et al have the advantage of being recent and still in everyones mind.
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Old 12-31-2007, 01:21 AM   #68
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Old 01-01-2008, 02:17 AM   #70
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what? Jordan doesn't even make the list?

I did forget about Ali when making the topic but if someone ever says biggest sports icon I think Jordan
And when I think sporting icon, I think Ali, Valentino Rossi, David Beckham.

See, Jordan didn't make the list.
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What the fuck nunder, how the hell can you put Valentino friggin Rossi before Michael Jordan you pieface eejit?:foc:
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who the fuck is valentino rossi
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Motorbike guy, a bigger sporting icon than Michael Jordan apparently
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What the fuck nunder, how the hell can you put Valentino friggin Rossi before Michael Jordan you pieface eejit?:foc:
Same as half of the posts here putting people on I've never heard of.


And Rossi is God :foc:
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Boxing was a truly worldwide sport when Ali was on top so probably him for all time.

Michael Jordan is a true marketing success but on a worldwide scale David Beckham is the biggest sporting icon and probably the most famous person in the world, regardless of sport. Americans don't get it because you're insular, laughably so when you propose Wayne Gretzky as a global sporting icon.

At his peak Beckham was probably the 4th or 5th best player in the Manchester United team but undoubtedly the biggest name.
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I don't think anyone in America thinks Wayne Gretzky is/was a global sporting icon

Personally I don't think Jordan is the biggest sporting icon in the World - basketball isn't popular enough across the globe for that, he is the most marketable athlete ever in the United States though
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And when I think sporting icon, I think Ali, Valentino Rossi, David Beckham.

See, Jordan didn't make the list.
Valentino Rossi isn't even the best at his sport, let alone one of the biggest sporting icons.
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