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Old 02-13-2008, 10:25 AM   #41
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The ratings for the February Fourth episode of Raw (The one Alienoid was speaking of) are in, and the ratings are down to the same level they were a couple of months ago. With Cena in the Main Event, Raw lost almost a million viewers in one hour. Now, it'd be ridiculous to blame it all on Cena, but apparently we were to believe the spike after the Rumble was not because of the Rumble so much, but because of Cena. Raw ratings were 3.1 and 3.0, losing about a million viewers on the top hour and nearly half a million viewers on the lower hour.
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:15 PM   #42
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The ratings for the February Fourth episode of Raw (The one Alienoid was speaking of) are in, and the ratings are down to the same level they were a couple of months ago. With Cena in the Main Event, Raw lost almost a million viewers in one hour. Now, it'd be ridiculous to blame it all on Cena, but apparently we were to believe the spike after the Rumble was not because of the Rumble so much, but because of Cena. Raw ratings were 3.1 and 3.0, losing about a million viewers on the top hour and nearly half a million viewers on the lower hour.
They will blame on the fact that at 10 pm EST, all of the Cena fans will be forced to go to bed by their parents hence the drop.

To counteract they will feature all of Cena's segments during the first 45 minutes.
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:38 PM   #43
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That would be sweet. I'd be able to watch the last hour of Raw without wanting to gouge my eyes out. Wait. We'd still have DX Lite and a shitload of other unwatchable crap, including Swog/McMahon.
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The ratings for the February Fourth episode of Raw (The one Alienoid was speaking of) are in, and the ratings are down to the same level they were a couple of months ago. With Cena in the Main Event, Raw lost almost a million viewers in one hour. Now, it'd be ridiculous to blame it all on Cena, but apparently we were to believe the spike after the Rumble was not because of the Rumble so much, but because of Cena. Raw ratings were 3.1 and 3.0, losing about a million viewers on the top hour and nearly half a million viewers on the lower hour.
So Cena lost viewers? Haha, why does the WWE continue to push him so hard?

He can't make that much in merchandise sales, can he? Are there numbers published on how much merchandise Cena moves? Is that enough to alone justify him being pushed so fucking ridiculously?
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Old 02-14-2008, 04:31 PM   #45
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Partially because I doubt shareholders pay much attention to ratings, and Cena makes a shitload in merchandise. That and he is a good "public face" for the company.

Beyond that, I seriously doubt Cena actually lost a million viewers or anything. I mean, I'm betting Cena winning pissed some people off, but I think it's more reasonable to assume that the Rumble drew in those numbers, which peaked the Monday after the Rumble, and with the Rumble over and the results delivered, people lost interest.

I just can't imagine Cena being the reason for a 900K+ drop in one week. Still, with Cena and Mizark in the main event, one does wonder....
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Old 02-17-2008, 05:23 AM   #46
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Partially because I doubt shareholders pay much attention to ratings, and Cena makes a shitload in merchandise. That and he is a good "public face" for the company.

Beyond that, I seriously doubt Cena actually lost a million viewers or anything. I mean, I'm betting Cena winning pissed some people off, but I think it's more reasonable to assume that the Rumble drew in those numbers, which peaked the Monday after the Rumble, and with the Rumble over and the results delivered, people lost interest.

I just can't imagine Cena being the reason for a 900K+ drop in one week. Still, with Cena and Mizark in the main event, one does wonder....
I kind of can, to be honest.

I'm sure there were other reasons, true, but this at least sort of proves that John Cena is not a draw, at least. Do ratings normally fluctuate after the Rumble? They're usually pretty consistently high as things head into WrestleMania, aren't they?

I'm a supporter of Orton vs. Cena being done at No Way Out, because it doesn't feel like a WrestleMania match to me (I care about neither guy), but do you think that maybe blowing the load instead of going long with this might have had a negative effect on the ratings?
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:12 AM   #47
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Well, my stored data only goes back to August 06, so I don't know if this is a trend or not, but last year, it remained pretty steady after the Rumble in 07. This should certainly dismiss any notion that Cena is a draw.
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Old 02-20-2008, 05:54 PM   #48
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So we all know Cena's a draw, right? Well, Since the Second Coming, Raw's Ratings have dropped to 2.9 (Both hours on the 11th drew the same rating). 'Noid's right, ratings usually go up and stay higher between the Rumble and Wrestlemania. The hours lost about the same, near 200,000 viewers each, which now puts the total at over a million easily.

So, since Cena's a draw, what exactly is holding ratings down?
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Well, Cena didn't become champ would be one.

It is odd, though. I haven't considered Cena as draw for a few years now, even though some in the WWE believe he is. Ratings were absolutely pathetic late last year while he was away and they've slightly improved so far this year to pretty bad, with their highest rating Raw the one where Cena returned at a pay per view that was decent, but not anything special.

Now the Raw after No Way Out, a very good pay per view - one of the best I can remember for a while with a mainstream angle beginning - and the ratings were down. Cena didn't win a title at it while he won the title of Royal Rumble winner at the Rumble. Perhaps Cena is worth more than I thought...

But then I remembered the ratings while Edge was champ - early 2006 - and ratings were some of the best they had since 2002, which indicated people didn't want Cena.

So yeah, this doesn't make much sense to me. All I can conclude is that the meaning of ratings - and why they change - isn't simple. Which others have probably already worked out.

Also, again I use this http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrest...wwf/wwfraw.htm page as a reference - which KK rightly pointed out was inflated and inaccurate but the key is that it is consistently inflated and inaccurate to the same degree - this is the worst ratings start to the year/road to Wrestlemania since 1997.
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Ratings started to come down the week after the Rumble. In all probability, ratings were high only because people tuned in to see what happened "last night," and people tuned out. It makes sense, because the ratings were getting hot before the Rumble (Relatively speaking) and Cena was in no way hyped.

So what changed? Well, there's Cena, and not much else. So it's kind of hard to believe he's not responsible (I don't literally mean Cena, but the position he's in) when everything else is relatively stable.
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Ratings started to come down the week after the Rumble. In all probability, ratings were high only because people tuned in to see what happened "last night," and people tuned out. It makes sense, because the ratings were getting hot before the Rumble (Relatively speaking) and Cena was in no way hyped.

So what changed? Well, there's Cena, and not much else. So it's kind of hard to believe he's not responsible (I don't literally mean Cena, but the position he's in) when everything else is relatively stable.
This is really the only logical explanation. Although, maybe it's my relative dislike for the man as a performer, but Triple H has also been rising to attention again. In place of Jeff Hardy, John Cena and Triple H might have both been sharing in the negative effect on the ratings?
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