That fucking song Stronger by Kanye West pisses me off so much - Page 2

**Requiem** · 02-14-2008, 07:29 PM

Pretty much hate Kanye. On the other hand, Daft Punk is alright and this video is pretty great.

**Indifferent Clox** · 02-15-2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by .44 Magdalene

I have to say I agree. I have to.

Because God dammit I hate Kanye West.

Most of the good in that song is from Daft Punk, but his shit-eating fanbase have no idea who "Kanye West's DJs" actually are. The video's just a big "homage" to Akira, which again, his fanbase doesn't generally understand because--hold onto something:

RAP FANS ARE USUALLY NOT FANS OF ANIME AND/OR TECHNO.

He plays it off like he's catering to multiple crowds, but those crowds don't mix. People that get the references and grasp the sampling don't like Kanye West, and visa versa. The result is that Kanye West gets a bunch of free "inspiration" and the people that are buying his CDs just think he's some sort of genius. He's not even that great of a rapper. He's alright, I guess, compared to alot of radio rappers, but it's not like that's saying much. The fact is that he's quickly turning into the same "gimmick rapper" type that everybody keeps defending him as not being.

It would help if he'd shut the fuck up once in a while.

I don't think Kanye West is really trying to appeal to 'rap fans' but to fans of music as a whole. Which is why I like him better than most mainstream rap.

He is able to mix fluidly two styles.

But that's just my opinion.

**.44 Magdalene** · 02-15-2008, 08:37 AM

Except that he's not and he generally fails.

You can't really appeal to non-rap fans with rap, and he's not really doing anything that plenty of other rap artists aren't doing: talking about stupid shit while other peoples' music plays in the background. Eminem did it, Notorious did it... fuck, MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice did it. What he does is the definition of mainstream rap. That's how alot of rap gets mainstream is by tacking on shit that people who can't relate can actually relate to. I sure as fuck don't know many techno fans that got their jollies off on this song, though, and if this thread is any hint, people that don't like techno aren't too excited about it either. He's not reeling in any crowds that wouldn't normally be all over this shit, and even alot of mainstream rap fans are passing on this one. I haven't met any real fans of this that didn't come off as totally delusional.

02-14-2008, 07:29 PM	#41
Requiem Posts: 19,301	Pretty much hate Kanye. On the other hand, Daft Punk is alright and this video is pretty great.

02-15-2008, 08:37 AM	#43
.44 Magdalene Smitten for Kittens Posts: 3,814	Except that he's not and he generally fails. You can't really appeal to non-rap fans with rap, and he's not really doing anything that plenty of other rap artists aren't doing: talking about stupid shit while other peoples' music plays in the background. Eminem did it, Notorious did it... fuck, MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice did it. What he does is the definition of mainstream rap. That's how alot of rap gets mainstream is by tacking on shit that people who can't relate can actually relate to. I sure as fuck don't know many techno fans that got their jollies off on this song, though, and if this thread is any hint, people that don't like techno aren't too excited about it either. He's not reeling in any crowds that wouldn't normally be all over this shit, and even alot of mainstream rap fans are passing on this one. I haven't met any real fans of this that didn't come off as totally delusional.