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Old 03-09-2008, 05:33 PM   #41
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Of course he can't, he's an overrated wrestler, average on the mic, and you're a retard for thinking overwise. No one likes him
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Old 03-09-2008, 05:34 PM   #42
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Of course he can't, he's an overrated wrestler, average on the mic, and you're a retard for thinking overwise. No one likes him
You know what Inno, you are completely right. Thank you for showing me the light
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Old 03-09-2008, 05:37 PM   #43
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Of course he can't, he's an overrated wrestler, average on the mic, and you're a retard for thinking overwise. No one likes him
Mmmm...Strawmen...
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Old 03-09-2008, 06:22 PM   #44
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Mmmm...Strawmen...
cmon KK it's one of the only things we disagree on

BTW, WWE really needs to get a new dub in pop, cause everyone on Smackdown gets the same reaction...except for Undertaker and Edge
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Old 03-09-2008, 06:30 PM   #45
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i like heel cm punk.
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Old 03-09-2008, 06:36 PM   #46
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Yeah heel Punk would be great, put him on Smackdown and turn him. Team him with MVP and you have Team Better Than You
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he just has that smugness/cockiness/attitude about him at all times that lends itself to making a great heel. him as a face just doesn't feel right.
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Punk needs to start doing the Vyce again.
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Old 03-09-2008, 06:44 PM   #49
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he just has that smugness/cockiness/attitude about him at all times that lends itself to making a great heel. him as a face just doesn't feel right.
Heel Punk, especially during the Summer of Punk/2005, was just awesome. He can piss the crowd off and make you want to see him get his ass kicked, which is the point of being heel in the first place
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that fucking heel turn. probably the best turn i've ever seen.
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When he turns heel, he needs to do it by turning on Matt Hardy who should hopefully be US Champ by then.

Him, MVP, and Edge should form a stable called Team EMP (Edge, Montell, Punk).
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that fucking heel turn. probably the best turn i've ever seen.
Especially when it coincided with Daniels's return
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Old 03-09-2008, 06:55 PM   #53
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When he turns heel, he needs to do it by turning on Matt Hardy who should hopefully be US Champ by then.

Him, MVP, and Edge should form a stable called Team EMP (Edge, Montell, Punk).
That'd make Smackdown the best show....no wait it already is
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Old 03-09-2008, 06:56 PM   #54
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cmon KK it's one of the only things we disagree on
Not saying you're a moron, or that we're arch enemies. I'm just calling it a strawman because, well, it is.
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Old 03-09-2008, 07:03 PM   #55
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Not saying you're a moron, or that we're arch enemies. I'm just calling it a strawman because, well, it is.
Oversimplified? yes...that was kind of the point
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That'd make Smackdown the best show....no wait it already is
What would make it even better is if it eventually leads to Punk and MVP turning on Edge.

If they don't pussifiy a babyface Edge, I could really see him getting over and having a good feud with both Punk and MVP.
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Old 03-09-2008, 07:10 PM   #57
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It'd elevate MVP up also, if they stay the course with him he's gonna be huge

I fear if they turn Edge face, they'd ruin him fast.
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It'd elevate MVP up also, if they stay the course with him he's gonna be huge

I fear if they turn Edge face, they'd ruin him fast.
The way I see, if/when Punk goes heel it will be his "Better Than You" sXe gimmick. Edge's Rated R Character is basically the opposite of that. They could so totally play that up with Punk saying that Edge was too worried about sleeping with random sluts and out partying to care about his career.

Or better yet, keep Punk and Edge together while turn MVP babyface instead.
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Mmmm...Strawmen...
No, it wasn't really a strawmen. Inno's point was that Punk is over, and he is. Granted, you didn't say that Punk is a bad wrestler, but you did pretty much state that he's not over (crowds are apathetic to him).
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I'm fairly certain that CM Punk will be walking out of WrestleMania ECW Champion. What I'd love to see is a "Champion's Alliance" between Edge (WHC), CM Punk (ECWC) and MVP (USC). Imagine how much of a mark out moment it'd be if Edge ended The Undertaker's streak (which won't happen, but neither will a Punk heel turn) because of assist from CM Punk and MVP at WrestleMania.

Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins remain on-call as Edge's lackeys. You could maybe call up Colt Cabana to be CM Punk's guy. MVP can start touring with his own entourage. Not too many guys. Maybe just Atlas DaBone, or a remodeled Deuce N' Domino. It'd be a pretty big stable, but it'd have a hierarchy. Edge, Punk and MVP, as the Champions, would be the generals of the group.

Chavo Guerrero can turn face (I personally think he makes a sympathetic babyface), and can continue his feud with CM Punk, or he can go after Edge. Maybe have Edge dump Vickie Guerrero because he no longer "needs" her, which pisses off Chavo? Or you can just move Guerrero to RAW, don't have him revert back to his Kerwin White character, and become a solid mid-carder. An Intercontinental Title reign for Chavo would be a lot of fun, in my opinion.
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:43 PM   #61
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Here is my opinion on this guy, now take this as constructive criticizm. But I don't think this guy fits in WWE. Now things have changed since the end of 2006, and the face of WWE has changed. I find the cat extremely overrated, and boring. Plus I find him to be quite the trashbag of a person in real-life, so what do you all think?
I don't like you, i don't like cm punk
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I don't like you either. I don't like CM Chump either.
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I don't like you either. I don't like CM Chump either.
I only don't like you for making a thread about your hate for CM Punk, i openly hate him... in threads that mention him not threads about him, that is why i hate you, you stupid fuck :foc:
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I'd think "CM Junk" is the easiest nameplay.

However, I don't hate CM Punk. Just the threads. Why, you ask? Because nobody ever actually says anything. There's a lot of talk that goes on, but nothing new or worthwhile is ever said. Group A says "I hate him for illogical and moot reasoning," and Group B says "I think he's great, but he's doomed b/c he's in WWE". And, when that gets worn thru the floor, we get Kane Knight and Alienoid to meander in and top everything off with their Kanoid semantics about the "could be"s of tampered crowd reactions and the "you deny"s of company strategies. And even that garbage is useless, because it all boils down to "I'm Not Listening" from every party involved. Just a bunch of fuckin' noise in typographic spatter, and nobody benefits in any fucking form.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:54 PM   #73
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I only don't like you for making a thread about your hate for CM Punk, i openly hate him... in threads that mention him not threads about him, that is why i hate you, you stupid fuck :foc:
So you're calling me stupid, which is like the cow calling the dalmation spotted, when I make this thread about how much I despise that piece of overrated cow manuer(sp?) CM Chump? I just don't get it.
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So you're calling me stupid, which is like the cow calling the dalmation spotted, when I make this thread about how much I despise that piece of overrated cow manuer(sp?) CM Chump? I just don't get it.
That's a pretty awful saying. I've seen cows that aren't spotted. I've never seen a dalmatian that wasn't. Wait, are you albino?
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Old 03-12-2008, 06:32 AM   #76
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I'd think "CM Junk" is the easiest nameplay.

However, I don't hate CM Punk. Just the threads. Why, you ask? Because nobody ever actually says anything. There's a lot of talk that goes on, but nothing new or worthwhile is ever said. Group A says "I hate him for illogical and moot reasoning," and Group B says "I think he's great, but he's doomed b/c he's in WWE". And, when that gets worn thru the floor, we get Kane Knight and Alienoid to meander in and top everything off with their Kanoid semantics about the "could be"s of tampered crowd reactions and the "you deny"s of company strategies. And even that garbage is useless, because it all boils down to "I'm Not Listening" from every party involved. Just a bunch of fuckin' noise in typographic spatter, and nobody benefits in any fucking form.
Rep for being the first explanation of why people talk down about Punk's reaction at SS. If they were going to add in reactions for a guy, though, why would they choose CM Punk over DX? Ah well.

CM Spunk was my first CM Punk name play.
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:11 AM   #77
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What the crap are you talking about?
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Rep for being the first explanation of why people talk down about Punk's reaction at SS.

You mean you really have missed every time someone spelled it out to you explicitly? It's not you "playing your gimmick," you really missed all them posts directed at you, including ones you replied to?

Man, that's actually kind of sad.

Afterlife, I'd point out to you that this is the only time I've mentioned the possibility of an edited pop, but I don't think you actually deal in facts when you whine about me. I wasn't even saying Punk's pop was piped in, I just think it's utterly ridiculous for someone to assert it was a live show as a reason that it wasn't/couldn't have been. I mean, aside from the technology being available, we know WWE pipes in reactions big and small, things which are demonstrable and true.

I know that the facts, the truth, won't sway you, but I feel obliged to say it anyway, because your strawmen seem to get more ridiculous every time you complain about me. I mean, it's not even that hard to find a real reason to bitch about me. I'm an asshole, and a smug one at that. But to repeatedly make up shit just to have something to complain about? To consistently miss my points in a way only you and Noid seem able to do? Yeah, sorry, but you're smarter than that.

But for your benefit, I'll say one last thing: Arguing that something is not impossible is not the same as arguing that something actually happened. I mean, I could talk about the Magic Bullet theory, and the principles behind it, but it doesn't mean I believe in a second gunman taking Kennedy down with such a bullet.

WWE can affect the sound of a live show in myriad fashions. That doesn't mean I'm saying it happned with Punk; only that anyone who asserts the improbability based on it being a live show alone is a fool. Hopefully, that's plain English enough for you.
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Make your mind up numbnuts. And just admit you're wrong about the Punk SS pop...you've been embarassing yourself for long enough now.
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You mean you really have missed every time someone spelled it out to you explicitly? It's not you "playing your gimmick," you really missed all them posts directed at you, including ones you replied to?

Man, that's actually kind of sad.

Afterlife, I'd point out to you that this is the only time I've mentioned the possibility of an edited pop, but I don't think you actually deal in facts when you whine about me. I wasn't even saying Punk's pop was piped in, I just think it's utterly ridiculous for someone to assert it was a live show as a reason that it wasn't/couldn't have been. I mean, aside from the technology being available, we know WWE pipes in reactions big and small, things which are demonstrable and true.

I know that the facts, the truth, won't sway you, but I feel obliged to say it anyway, because your strawmen seem to get more ridiculous every time you complain about me. I mean, it's not even that hard to find a real reason to bitch about me. I'm an asshole, and a smug one at that. But to repeatedly make up shit just to have something to complain about? To consistently miss my points in a way only you and Noid seem able to do? Yeah, sorry, but you're smarter than that.

But for your benefit, I'll say one last thing: Arguing that something is not impossible is not the same as arguing that something actually happened. I mean, I could talk about the Magic Bullet theory, and the principles behind it, but it doesn't mean I believe in a second gunman taking Kennedy down with such a bullet.

WWE can affect the sound of a live show in myriad fashions. That doesn't mean I'm saying it happned with Punk; only that anyone who asserts the improbability based on it being a live show alone is a fool. Hopefully, that's plain English enough for you.
It never ceases to amaze me how long-winded you get when someone calls you on being...well...you.

It's also fun that you start off many of your insults toward me with "You're a smart guy," and then proceed to talk down about my wits and presume, in pompous disillusionment, that not only did I miss your point, but that I am rare in thinking you anything other than paramount in knowledge of the topic at hand. (Yes, that's a big ass sentence.)

Third -- and my personal favorite -- you just spent four defensive paragraphs explaining that I'm a presumptuous idiot, when it is you, my half-bearded nemesis, who missed the fecking point. O Bohemian Irony. I was not indicating any specifics of claims from either of you. I simply chose examples to demonstrate how repetative and useless you two can be about completely rock-dumb concepts. How many times do you make cynical "fake pop" remarks, be they legit or otherwise? How many times have I had to tell Alienoid that the SS Punk Pop (which still sounds like a gay cruise ship) was a fucking FLUKE? The point was -- and is, for that matter -- that it doesn't MATTER how many times. Because nobody in threads of this genre ever fecking listens to anybody else, and you, sir, take the cake in that aspect, as demonstrated by intentionally missing my point the first time.

Now, thank the good Lord this horse is already dead, or he'd have some serious internal bleeding.
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