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Old 05-08-2008, 03:58 PM   #41
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But we are when it comes to our sports.. i.e. Football

There is no where in the world that plays American football on the level that the NFL does..
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:59 PM   #42
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It works the same way in MMA.. Rampage Jackson is the WORLD Light Heavy Weight Champion yet he hasn't fought every LHW in the world..
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MMA is a pretty ambiguous one though, I mean its a banner term for a number of disciplines not a specific sport.
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It works the same way in MMA.. Rampage Jackson is the WORLD Light Heavy Weight Champion yet he hasn't fought every LHW in the world..
Yeah, World LHW Champion of the UFC.
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World Champion of the NFL

Same difference..
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MMA is a pretty ambiguous one though, I mean its a banner term for a number of disciplines not a specific sport.
WTF are you talking about??

Mixed Martial Arts is def a specific sport, which is sanctioned under a specific set of rules..

How can you even say that??
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CALM DOWN??!!


I thought 'MMA' was a generic term to cover a host of different promotions etc
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It works the same way in MMA.. Rampage Jackson is the WORLD Light Heavy Weight Champion yet he hasn't fought every LHW in the world..
No, that's not the same thing at all. Firstly I think he'd more accurately be described as the UFC LHW champion, though the UFC has fighters who are actually from all over the world they are representing themselves as individuals. It's different for individual sports.

The World Cup winners don't play every team in the world either.
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World Champion of the NFL

Same difference..
Stupid on so many levels.
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It's all semantics and your argument is borderline at best.. Bottom line is, MBL holds the World Series to crown a World Champion from all the MLB teams.. It's doesn't matter how many of those teams are outside the US..

BTW, there are pro athletes competing in the MLB, NFL, and NBA from all over the world, the simple fact that they play a team sport, in the US, doesn't matter..

Super Bowl winners are the NFL World Champ's..
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This debate got sidetracked.

Go back to the first post in this thread. The actual argument is why Americans think their sports are worthy of having their championships called "world championships". Based on ECG's argument, American sports are certainly worthy of having world championships because they aren't even the biggest sports in the world. American sports attract players from around the world, but the sports are not necessarily the most popular in their respective country.

Whether cricket and rugby are bigger sports than baseball and basketball, I really don't know. All I know is that soccer is the world's most popular sport, rightfully so.
Yeah because everybody can play soccer. Just need a ball to kick around.

It doesnt rely on weather conditions, and other factors.

The cheapest sport in the world will naturally be the most played and thus watched.
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Stupid on so many levels.
How is it different though??

Your argument is like saying the guy who holds the world record in eating hot wings really isn't the world champ because there is some guy somewhere eles who didn't compete who could possibly eat more wing than him..

There is no league in the world that plays the level that the NFL does.. If there was, you would have a point.. Until there is, whoever wins the Super Bowl is the World Champion of American Football..
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Other sports like rugby are played in many countries at a competitive level. The American sports aren't.
Hockey is.
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You can't call yourself world champions without competing against other nations or teams from across the world. FACT.

NFL - Champions of America
"World Series" - Champions of America.
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Yeah because everybody can play soccer. Just need a ball to kick around.

It doesnt rely on weather conditions, and other factors.

The cheapest sport in the world will naturally be the most played and thus watched.
Running is the cheapest sport actually.
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Running is the cheapest sport actually.
Talking team sports here. And dont bring up relay running.
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You can't call yourself world champions without competing against other nations or teams from across the world. FACT.

NFL - Champions of America
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If there's no one to compete with, I really don't see what the problem is..
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Surely American Football also only requires the right ball and somewhere to play?


Also what the fuck has weather got to do with it?
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Ok, then start a UK American Football League and you can compete with American teams for the World Title..

LOL
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Why isn't the World Series competed between say MLB and Japan? They already play 500 games a year what's 4-7 more?
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Because the Japanese League isn't part of the MLB..
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Surely American Football also only requires the right ball and somewhere to play?


Also what the fuck has weather got to do with it?
Try playing ice hockey in africa.
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Why isn't the World Series competed between say MLB and Japan? They already play 500 games a year what's 4-7 more?

Because the World Series is the face-off between the champions of the National and American Leagues, it is not an international competition, I already explained the origin of the name
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This is all semantics anyway, so who really cares??
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OMG Arnold Schwarzenegger is a fake!!

He didn't really compete with people from around the universe to win the Mr. Universe title..

What a fraud??
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Try playing ice hockey in africa.
It's played in Florida, Texas, Georgia, California and other warm climates
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WWE and World Heavyweight Champion.
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Yes, although they built arenas. You cant just pick up and play it in the south without one, like in cold cities where an arena isnt even needed.

With soccer anyone can just go outside and start it up.
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Hence why hockey (field hockey that is with ice hockey being the derivative) is a much more popular sport.

They're both shit anyway. Ice hockey is fucking rubbish. You can't even see the ball. Plus they wear loads of padding like fucking gays.
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Yes, although they built arenas. You cant just pick up and play it in the south without one, like in cold cities where an arena isnt even needed.

With soccer anyone can just go outside and start it up.

Like I said, same goes for Gridiron, get something resembling a hoop and you have basketball, get a stick and a ball and you've essentially got baseball
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He's talking balls. It's a simple game at heart but can be immensely technical. It appeals to the masses by its nature. No other sport can have that team ethic and level of individual flair all at once.

Football still beats it in other icy countries anyway.
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Hence why hockey (field hockey that is with ice hockey being the derivative) is a much more popular sport.

They're both shit anyway. Ice hockey is fucking rubbish. You can't even see the ball. Plus they wear loads of padding like fucking gays.
Pretty ignorant for a few reasons. It's a puck first of all, and secondly it's the fastest game going, with the hardest hits, toughest players of any sport.

Padding is needed mainly because besides Boxing or MMA, which are individual sports, Hockey is the team sport where it's most likely you could possibly die.

You have sharp weapons that can slice right through you, like skate blades..btw, some guys have gotten their neck sliced and blood gushed from their bodies, yet a couple days later they ask when they can come back to play. Guys break their bones and continue on playing. Toughness personified.

You've got hard ice, hard pucks flying around at sometimes over speeds of 100mph, guys going at full speed to knock you on your ass, or sometimes into hard boards and glass...they aint playing on a soft surface like your lilly soccer players(who btw dive and roll around on the ground for simply bending their finger the wrong way)

There is not one team sport that compares to the toughness of Hockey players. And when they fight, they go. No holding back.

So go ahead and enjoy your pussy fest soccer and cricket bullshit. And fucking Field hockey, whatever the fuck that is.
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Field hockey, as one would have thought the name implied, is hockey played on a field, instead of ice.
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Last time I watched Ice Hockey, I didn't know where the puck was until the goal siren started going off... What's the point?
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So go ahead and enjoy your pussy fest soccer and cricket bullshit. And fucking Field hockey, whatever the fuck that is.
You ever felt how hard a cricket ball is you fanny? Go find one then imagine standing there while some bastard bounces it at your head at 100mph. Takes more balls to stand there and take delivery after delivery in cricket than it does to dress up as the Michelin man and skate about like a fairy.

If we all had 6 layers of padding on I imagine we'd be a lot braver skating about too.
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