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Old 06-27-2008, 01:46 PM   #1
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Also, ECW is legend now, so its "stars" look better by associaction. Also ECW was edgy in a time when wrestling and edgy were hot. TNA is pulling decent number in a time when wrestling is dead.

ECW is/was in Philly, which is a wrestling hot bed. TNA is in Florida, which is kind of a dead zone for wrestling fans, but get mostly tourist, and it is doing well.
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Old 06-27-2008, 02:08 PM   #2
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ECW was at it's best from 95-97 and was edgiest at that point. That's the reason why ECW gained popularity and why WCW later gained back a lot of momentum. While WWE was having Doink and Dink vs Bam Bam and Luna, ECW was doing the whole Raven/Dreamer angle. WWF didn't start going adult until later 97
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Old 06-27-2008, 02:21 PM   #3
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ECW was at it's best from 95-97 and was edgiest at that point. That's the reason why ECW gained popularity and why WCW later gained back a lot of momentum. While WWE was having Doink and Dink vs Bam Bam and Luna, ECW was doing the whole Raven/Dreamer angle. WWF didn't start going adult until later 97
Exactly, it changed wrestling and how it was produced in the 90's, and still affects it today.

TNA is probably never going to accomplish that.
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Old 06-27-2008, 02:35 PM   #4
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ECW was the best booked promotion.

But come on, TNA is years ahead of everything business wise, so therefore they have gone farther. They have a Semi Successful Prime time Cable show, they run 12 ppvs a year, have a house show circuit, and have had major success overseas with tours as well as their shows being picked up.

They also have done something ECW never did....Make a profit.

This is coming from a guy that has been to 54 original ECW shows and still keeps the tickets. I love ECW to this day. I was there from the start.

No one will ever have a better booked promotion. But wrestling isnt about 5 star matches, it is about making money and beating the competition. TNA has gone way farther than ECW ever could have.
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Old 06-27-2008, 04:21 PM   #5
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Dude you gotta watch that one video of Tommy Dreamer expressing his feelings over Vince McMahon winning the ECW World Heavyweight Championship back last year. Well WCW was popular though it made only one huge star...and that was Almighty Bill Goldberg and all the others came from outside. TNA's home grown talent is way too small. I mean they have great talents like Daniels, Williams, Abyss, CHRIS FUCKING SABIN and many more. But the only homegrown talent that they can actually market are Styles and Joe.
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Old 06-27-2008, 05:41 PM   #6
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tbh call me old skool, but I actually hate the 6-sided ring now. Wrastlin' was and always will be a squared circle to me. It's not MMA, so just leave it. Be what u are. Use it here and there.

I see what BDC is saying. I think they're jsut 2 different era's. Maybe TNA is doing what it is doing as it's really the only viable option to watch if WWE is griping your balls so much, where as ECW had WCW in the way.

For me, if ECW was running what it was, with the fan base and popularity of wrestling back then, but in todays time frame right now. TNA would be nowhere and ECW would be making a profit, but at the same time we'd be actually watching the thing and loving it.
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Old 06-27-2008, 07:41 PM   #7
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Seriously... ECW beats out TNA in terms of creating stars just soley based off of Raven and Rob Van Dam together.

I have no doubt in my mind tho, that TNA does the business/investors side of a company better than ECW.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:20 PM   #8
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He reached a huge untapped base of fans
Just real quick, the audience wasn't so much untapped as it was recently ignored. Subtle distinction but yeah. WWF was doing their uber-cheese and WCW had recently started to follow suit and there was no market for adults in pro-wrestling. ECW became that.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:21 PM   #9
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Bottom line, if you take away the insane bumps, flaming tables, people hitting each other with sticks, and RVD making frequent drug references, you aren't left with much, ECW was basically the equivalent of a guerilla force in wrestling, and its demise at a time when its faithful wanted more, more, more, has sealed its place a a legend of wrestling viewed through the rosiest of lenses.
Also anyone who says ECW was nothing more than Hardocre is a guy who only knows the ECW the WWE has told them about.
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:19 PM   #10
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Yeah ECW will always have a special place in my heart. I don't think I've watched more than 10 mins of TNA.
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:54 PM   #11
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Also, comparing TNA to ECW is like comparing ice cream to horse manure.
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Old 06-29-2008, 01:36 PM   #12
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ECW had Angle first

Anyway saying how many casuals cared about ECW can be thrown right back into your face with casuals dont care about TNA either.
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Old 06-29-2008, 01:42 PM   #13
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Also if you want to get into ratings ECW on TNN pulled the same rating OR HIGHER without the stars, so yeah. EAT IT.
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Old 06-29-2008, 02:11 PM   #14
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In his defence, TNA has lost about $40m in five years, whereas ECW went bankrupt for just $9m after being in business nearly double that amount of time.

So technically, from a business perspective ECW > TNA.

Of course, down the line if TNA makes some serious moolah, that $40m will be seen as a necessary evil in order to build a successful business.

$40m spent building a succesful and profitable company in the long term > $9m spunked on short term notoriety and to have a select section of the crowd chant your three intials at profitable shows promoted by rival companies.
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