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Old 07-05-2008, 09:53 AM   #41
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1. Invasion (Fell flat)
2. Garrison Cade, raider of Flair's closet, managed by Coach (Fell flat)
3. Cade and Murdoch, mach 1.0 (was actually decent before the split. Came off as a goof in a cowboy hat.)
4. Cade singles run (Fell Flat)
5. Cade and Murdoch, mach 2.0 (was better than mach 1.0, even with jobbing out to D-X. Actually looked like a threat for a change.)
6. Lance Cade, Y2J's boy (remains to be seen.)
When the fuck was Lance Cade in the invasion?
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:12 PM   #42
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Yeah, Cade had nothing to do with the invasion.
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:51 PM   #43
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It was shortly after the invasion when he was teaming with Jindrak as Garrison Cade that you're thinking of. He was never actually in the invasion.
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Old 07-06-2008, 01:50 AM   #44
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Oh, my bad.

I thought the team of Cade and Jindrak WAS part of the Invasion.

Shit happens.
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Old 07-06-2008, 04:49 AM   #45
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Always liked Murdoch, and kept waiting for him to get that slightly bigger nudge to really go somewhere. So this kinda sucks.
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Old 07-06-2008, 06:47 AM   #46
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Something else I thought about, because we all know my feelings on HBK (fake christian who is still politics his way through everything for those in the dark.).

Before I continue, one quick thing...

*puts on tinfoil hat*

Ok. I honestly think the singing gimmick was used to Intentionally cut the legs out from under Murdoch. I mean, it's odd that Cade (HBK's boy) is in line for the big push while Murdoch (Harley's boy) is on the unemployment line. How the fuck can you not come up with something for the guy? He was working a nasty redneck gimmick, how can you work that and NOT come up with something for it? ESPECIALLY considering how many chances Lance Cade has had. How many? Let's see...

1. Invasion (Fell flat)
2. Garrison Cade, raider of Flair's closet, managed by Coach (Fell flat)
3. Cade and Murdoch, mach 1.0 (was actually decent before the split. Came off as a goof in a cowboy hat.)
4. Cade singles run (Fell Flat)
5. Cade and Murdoch, mach 2.0 (was better than mach 1.0, even with jobbing out to D-X. Actually looked like a threat for a change.)
6. Lance Cade, Y2J's boy (remains to be seen.)

Murdoch...

1. Cade and Murdoch, Mach 1.0 (see above, caught my attention immediately)
2. Murdoch's singles run (was decent, but not given enough time. Mainly Website exclusive promos that were excellent if more than 3 people saw them.)
3. Cade and Murdoch, Mach 2.0 (see above, did much of the solid mic work with the "Sportsmen" gimmick)
4. Murdoch, singer (possible gooker nominee, wished well on his future endeavors.)

As far as I'm concerned, if not for HBK and Murdoch, Cade would have been unemployed YEARS ago. And, if he falls flat even while riding Jericho's coattails, he should be shown the door.

As for Murdoch, I don't feel bad for him. I am sure he'll land on his feet. Be it the two possiblities I mentioned above or even NOAH, where he'll DEFINITELY get over as a straight up Redneck badass Gaijin.
You left out the Dupp gimmick for Murdoch.

But seriously, I don't think it is a massive conspiracy. I don't remember this "Invasion" thing to which you are referring. Garrison Cade was pretty terrible, although I did like his music. If Lance Cade's singles run fell flat, then so did Trevor Murdoch's, make no mistake about it.

Cade is the more talented of the two, in my opinion, but I'm sure there would have been something for Murdoch to do. I just think the WWE is lazy in actually doing it. For example, why couldn't Murdoch come to HBK's defence in this feud with Chris Jericho and Lance Cade? Why couldn't Murdoch sing his own rendition of "Sexy Boy," which I guarantee would have gotten over?

The gimmick wasn't done to hurt Murdoch, I don't think, it was just using the man's talents in a way to try and get him over, and well...it failed. But I meant to mention what you did at the end of your post, Trevor Murdoch in Japan would be a very, very good thing. Murdoch can make some money, get a fanbase, then return to the WWE when he has proven that he can hang with the best.
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:56 PM   #47
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The gimmick wasn't done to hurt Murdoch, I don't think, it was just using the man's talents in a way to try and get him over, and well...it failed.
Because the country singing gimmick worked WONDERS for Jeff Jarrett's career...



As much as I hate Jarrett in general, this gimmick didn't help him at all. How was I supposed to give a fuck about a guy who is a country singer trying to conquer Nashville by taking down the WWF. Especially while wearing christmas lights on his hat...

That's it! All Murdoch needed was a string of Christmas lights on his trucker hat and he'd have been a huge draw!

Seriously, he'll have some classics against the likes of KENTA, Morishima, et al and be back.
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Old 07-06-2008, 07:49 PM   #48
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:34 PM   #49
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Oh, my bad.

I thought the team of Cade and Jindrak WAS part of the Invasion.

Shit happens.
I thought for a moment that you were confusing him with Lance Storm. I was going to punch you in the mouth.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:25 PM   #50
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Oh, my bad.

I thought the team of Cade and Jindrak WAS part of the Invasion.

Shit happens.
You're thinking of Palumbo and O'Haire.
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