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Old 07-28-2008, 11:09 PM   #41
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Matt Hardy has become a ring general, in my opinion. To say that he doesn't work hard enough in the ring is ridiculous. Of course, you said the same thing about Chris Jericho and think Kevin Nash is a brilliant ring psychologist, so I'm sure it's meant to be taken lightly.

Every week, Matt Hardy will have one of the better matches of the week. He's someone to look forward to seeing working. That shows how much he has grown over the years. As a tag team guy, he was always the smarter worker, who planned out the matches, and took fewer risks, but he has grown into a guy I think could be considered a "great worker" now. Maybe he can't carry a broomstick to a good match, yet, but he's getting pretty fucking close to it.

The feuds Matt Hardy has been a part of have been fantastic. His stuff with MVP was incredible. Then you can go back to his feud with Gregory Helms, which not as many people saw, as there wasn't a title involved, but the series of matches they had were solid at the very worst. Worth of both men's future DVD sets, even if they have some classics in the future. His matches with Chavo Guerrero and Shelton Benjamin have been really, really fun. As has his work against John Morrison & The Miz.

Instead of trying to analyse why Matt Hardy is over, maybe it would be wiser to accept that he is? The reactions Hardy gets are fantastic. The fans love him, and the only time I felt backlash against him was at The Great American Bash. I think winning the ECW Title will refresh Matt Hardy greatly, though. And yes, that will make him the first Hardy to win a World Title, as it should be.

On the mic, Matt is still the stronger Hardy, and he can play a damn good heel character when he needs to. Mattitude was fucking great back in the day. I also love the heelish shades he introduced to his character at Money in the Bank last year, and the streak of cockiness he seemed to get when he won the US Title.

Will the WWE do anything with Matt Hardy? Who can say? They know how over he is, and they obviously appreciate his abilities, to the point where they have put many titles on him over the years, and have made him the top face of ECW. The problem is not with Matt Hardy, it's with the minds who use him.

Hardy is one of those guys I can see the WWE turning into a road agent/producer when his in-ring days are done. He is great at planning matches, and he has a good understanding of what goes on in there, and he can teach people how to connect with crowds. I think Matt Hardy is going to be a very rich man by the end of his career.
I have no idea what noid is saying, but I know this thread is now a success.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:20 AM   #42
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How so? You didn't antagonise anyone. If you were a Batman villain, BDC, you'd job to the Mad Hatter.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:08 AM   #43
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Shut up noid you know nothing of wrestling nor batman. Matt Hardy sucks and will forever suck. Jeff is a drugged out wierdo that ruins whatever he might have.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:29 AM   #44
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How so? You didn't antagonise anyone.
Yeah, Noid is naturally this bitchy.

Seriously, BDC, getting a tl;dr response out of Noid takes little more than asking him the time. No points for you.

Though immense rep for the first non-Noid person to fabricate such a conversation.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:55 AM   #45
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Matt's a great worker, no doubt. He always seems to on the cusp of success, but never quite makes it. While this isn't necessarily a catch-all solution that will instantly put Matt over the top, I honestly believe that changing his look up a bit might just be the edge he needs.

I mean, he hasn't changed his look since the Hardys were split. To a lot of fans (and perhaps to the people backstage calling the shots), that will make him look stale. Maybe even dated.

So I say cut the hair. Change the attire. Make the world see that this is a new Matt Hardy.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:03 PM   #46
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Juan has shown me the error of my ways in thinking Matt never busts out the moonsault. I stand by that if he had that as a finisher, or as an alternate finisher, on a regular basis he would be in the ME scene.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:05 PM   #47
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Matt looks like a tired, out off breathe, sloppy old man when he is signalling for the twist of fate. That is why he won't be mainevent.

Plus he needs a submission or something.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:07 PM   #48
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Juan has shown me the error of my ways in thinking Matt never busts out the moonsault. I stand by that if he had that as a finisher, or as an alternate finisher, on a regular basis he would be in the ME scene.
I personally think he should use the Side Effect as his finisher
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:09 PM   #49
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Matt looks like a tired, out off breathe, sloppy old man when he is signalling for the twist of fate. That is why he won't be mainevent.

Plus he needs a submission or something.
ll do that really retarded hand symbols that looks like he's having a seizure?
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:24 PM   #50
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Yeah, he definitely needs a submission. I hate how when you get to the main event scene you just "get" a submission.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:22 PM   #51
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How so? You didn't antagonise anyone. If you were a Batman villain, BDC, you'd job to the Mad Hatter.


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Shut up noid you know nothing of wrestling nor batman. Matt Hardy sucks and will forever suck. Jeff is a drugged out wierdo that ruins whatever he might have.
Why so serious?
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:38 AM   #52
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Shut up Y2Ant
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Old 07-31-2008, 03:41 AM   #53
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Shut up noid you know nothing of wrestling nor batman. Matt Hardy sucks and will forever suck. Jeff is a drugged out wierdo that ruins whatever he might have.
Nah, I'm actually a mark for Batman. My dad's always been into the character, and has collected Batman comics for years before I was even born. I've grown up with the knowledge pounded into me.

Also, when you tell people to shut up, they don't. Proof of your failure to be an appropriate villain.

KK, my post wasn't bitchy. Are you fucking retarded? Yes? OK.
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KK, my post wasn't bitchy. Are you fucking retarded? Yes? OK.
Well, that post kinda was...
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Yeah, he definitely needs a submission. I hate how when you get to the main event scene you just "get" a submission.
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Also, Noid, Matt Hardy is good and he's a solid mid-carder at best, but I don't know if he's the ring general you are suggesting. Not yet, at least.

Still, I don't see his move to ECW as a demotion, nor his loss of the US Title to Shelton Benjamin as any kind of punishment. I mean, he's pretty much in the same position as CM Punk was for the past couple of years, and he's the World Heavyweight Champion now.

Matt's still relatively young. He has time to capture the World Title.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:56 PM   #57
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Nah, I'm actually a mark for Batman. My dad's always been into the character, and has collected Batman comics for years before I was even born. I've grown up with the knowledge pounded into me.

Also, when you tell people to shut up, they don't. Proof of your failure to be an appropriate villain.

KK, my post wasn't bitchy. Are you fucking retarded? Yes? OK.
LOL, it's cute watching you try and call someone else retarded.

See how easy it is, BDC?
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:57 PM   #58
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