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Old 09-10-2008, 07:52 PM   #41
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Just because I don't like the guy now, doesn't mean he wasn't my hero for my entire childhood. His tenure, his drawing power, the way he was hyped..... Hogan was more or less champion for a decade. That's my reasoning. If Rock or Austin lasted half as long, they would have been higher for being better characters and workers. But they weren't, so they aren't.
This is why Hogan got the number 1 spot for me. He is basically the reason why I started watching wrestling. We probably wouldn't even be having this discussion of it weren't for Hogan. Who knows what would've become of the WWF if Hogan hadn't exploded like he did. I will admit, however, that Hogan is a douche bag.
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:53 PM   #42
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How long did Bruno Sammartino hold the belt? Are you gonna change your list to reflect that?
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:56 PM   #43
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I can't believe Bruno isn't on more lists. He was champion forever, and build the WWWF empire on his shoulders. He is at least top 5, imo.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:00 PM   #44
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Fallen Angel didn't set any criteria. So I went with how much I was entertained by their reign(s) in each selection.

This will mean that much pre-1991 won't be included.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:08 PM   #45
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Yea, Rob's list is the same as mine, except Hogan would be 1 and Austin 2 and Rock 3.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:57 PM   #46
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1. Stone Cold Steve Austin
2. The Rock
3. Triple H
4. Shawn Michaels
5. Hulk Hogan
6. Edge
7. Ric Flair
8. Undertaker
9. Chirs Jericho
10. Bret Hart
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:07 PM   #47
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1. The Rock
- Being able to be a great champion as a face and heel is the most important factor in my mind in choosing the best WWE Champion.

2. Hulk Hogan
- Only a 4-time champion, but made the belt what it is today.

3. Stone Cold Steve Austin
- His first title win officially started the Attitude Era.

4. Shawn Michaels
- His first title win is still one of my favorite matches of all time. Was able to be a great champ as a face and heel.

5. Bret Hart
- Hart's Wrestlemania win over Yokozuna after losing to Owen is one of my earliest fondest wrestling memories.

6. Triple H
- His number of titles and lengths of reigns are just impossible to argue with.

7. Bruno Sammartino
- Two-time champ, first reign lasted 8 years and to quote WWE.com
"Bruno Sammartino faced off against the hated Buddy Rogers at Madison Square Garden. Sammartino used a dropkick, backbreaker and a crushing bearhug to dethrone the champ."

8. Undertaker
- Won his first title relatively early in his WWE career and has stayed consistently in the title picture for the next 17 years.

9. Mick Foley/Mankind
- His first title win put WWE in control of the Monday Night Ratings War and they never looked back.

10. Bob Backlund
- Sixteen years between title reigns

Honorable Mentions:
Ted DiBiase
- He almost bought the damn title from Andre The Giant. How great is that?

John Cena
- Love him or hate him he has held that title for fucking ever at times. Next month will be one year since Cena has been champ. Anybody else think that was even possible?

Edge
- Him cashing in the Money In The Bank was my last mark out moment, until recently when The Brian Kendrick scored a pinfall in the Scramble.
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Old 09-11-2008, 01:44 AM   #48
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Are we considering WWWF champions? Cause if so then that changes everything. Buddy Rogers would be on my list.
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Old 09-11-2008, 02:59 AM   #49
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I perhaps should have clarified more, I shoudl mention that it is people who made the belt shine and entertained us to the fullest while having the title.

To Heyman, There will be a Top 10 Legends thread later.

It is based on personal preference, but for example saying Kane as the best is a little iffy if you get what I mean, and SCSA has some of the most watched and interesting periods.

I think you guys understand what I mean.

I very much like how DP did his list, as it gives reason as to why he is voting, if everyone wants to, go ahead, it would help clarify, if not I will still of course count your votes.
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Old 09-11-2008, 03:48 AM   #50
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Rough order

1. Hogan
2. Austin
3. Rock
4. HBK
5. Bret
6. Savage
7. Backlund
8. Taker
9. HHH
10. Sammartino
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:27 PM   #51
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Why is that then?

Top 4 I'll give you but #1? I need to know the reasoning here.
The point I meant to make by "at the top" was in the top 2-3 spots.





Also, addy2hotty....
it's not really a matter of differing opinions, because as I stated I dislike Hogan in every facet. We're likely of the same opinion.
However, when ranking the best champions, he comes at the top of a list and that's practically academic.

Perhaps I interpreted the thread title differently, but I think "best" is a more official ranking than "favorite"

In the english language, by ranking someone higher than another on a "best" list, that in turn means they are "better than".
I like Jericho or RVD or even ReyRey more than Hogan. But were they BETTER champions? I'm afraid I can't dillude myself to answer yes.
As long as we're speaking the same language here, which I sometimes question, it's not really a matter of opinion.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:33 PM   #52
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My list by the way:

1. Austin (pretty much a tie with Hogan in all departments, except he made more people look better and pulled a company out of a rut with his own schtick, rather than luckily being part of a genius plan to build said company)
2. Hogan
3. The Rock
4. Hart
5. Michaels (champ at a rough time, but kept a struggling company alive)
6. Bruno Sanmartino
7. Savage. (He should have gotten more of a chance. The fact that he didn't is a result of the reasons that made Hogan inferior to Austin)
8. The Undertaker (Has been a very popular and bankable champion in every era of post-hulkamania WWE)
9. HHH. (one of the stronger heel champions, and as a result very important to the success of The Rock, and WWE at the turn of the century.)
10. Cena (a workhorse, and like it or not the champion of a new generation)
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Old 09-13-2008, 09:31 AM   #53
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Also, addy2hotty....
it's not really a matter of differing opinions, because as I stated I dislike Hogan in every facet. We're likely of the same opinion.
However, when ranking the best champions, he comes at the top of a list and that's practically academic.

Perhaps I interpreted the thread title differently, but I think "best" is a more official ranking than "favorite"

In the english language, by ranking someone higher than another on a "best" list, that in turn means they are "better than".
I like Jericho or RVD or even ReyRey more than Hogan. But were they BETTER champions? I'm afraid I can't dillude myself to answer yes.
As long as we're speaking the same language here, which I sometimes question, it's not really a matter of opinion.
Speak whatever language you want Jeritron, it's not your speaking that seems the problem, just your reading:-

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So if you could, each comprise a list of your own top 10 best, and I will tally up the scores after everyone has made their opinions known.
Seems pretty clear to me. FA even mentions 'personal preference' when he revised the rules.

My personal preference is not to have Hogan near the top of the list as he didn't particularly entertain me in any of his championship runs since I began watching in late 1991.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:45 AM   #54
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5. Michaels (champ at a rough time, but kept a struggling company alive)
If you are talking his 1996 (and I assume you are) then this couldn't be further from the truth. Michaels at that point was the worst drawing champion in the WWF's history (second was his buddy Kevin Nash). Business was seriously in the red and the thought of the company going under was in people's heads within the company.

Had the clique not had power over Vince, he would have lost that belt in a matter of weeks and they couldn't wait to get it to Sid Vicious once he came in.

Unbelievable worker though.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:06 AM   #55
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1. Austin
2. Rock
3. Hogan
4. Michaels
5. Rogers
6. Sammartino
7. Savage
8. Hart
9. Undertaker
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:18 AM   #56
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1. Shawn Michaels
2. Stone Cold Steve Austin
3. Triple H
4. Kurt Angle
5. Chris Jericho
6. The Undertaker
7. Brock Lesnar
8. The Rock
9. John Cena
10. Edge
o.O Please tell me this was a joke?
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Old 09-13-2008, 12:28 PM   #57
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Speak whatever language you want Jeritron, it's not your speaking that seems the problem, just your reading:-

That's your rebuttal? What are you even talking about? Weak as hell.
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I know.

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Old 09-13-2008, 05:07 PM   #59
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1.hogan
2.bret hart
3.stone cold
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5.undertaker
6.hbk
7.yokozuna
8.macho man
9.HHH
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Ok, voting closed, I am adding up the scores now, how the scoring is done is 1) is worth 10 points, 2) is worth 9 points, etc.
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That's your rebuttal? What are you even talking about? Weak as hell.
I'm not 'rebutting' anything. It's clear and concise from the original post. Fallen Angel asked for opinions on 'your own' top 10, you can't obviously see that, I've attempted and failed in making you see this, despite it being in front of your face. That's not only weak, that's pretty dumb.
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It's clearly explained as "who you think is the best". The conventional wisdom for 'best' should have some bearing on the thinking involved, unless of course it's of the wishful variety. Or perhaps no thinking at all?
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Kane is the best WWF champion of all time. I put a lot of thought into that vote.
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1-Great Khali
2-Sgt. Slaughter
3-Kane
4-Vince McMahon
5-Ultimate Warrior
6-Andre the Giant

and I can't be bothered to list anymore, that list is 100% correct and if you disagree you are a mongoloid.
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