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Old 10-12-2008, 06:08 PM   #41
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Would he have said the joke if Bret Hart was standing there?
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Old 10-12-2008, 06:09 PM   #42
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Old 10-12-2008, 06:09 PM   #43
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But yeah the Owen line was not right
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Old 10-12-2008, 06:16 PM   #44
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It not like there isn't a time and place for jokes like this but this wasn't one of those times and certainly not in that company.
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Old 10-12-2008, 08:26 PM   #46
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After hearing the explanation, I'm all behind Hall. Interesting to know that they were friends, I had not heard that before. Gotta say though, if someone said that about a dead friend of mine, I'd probably have the same reaction, drinking or no.
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:31 PM   #47
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Scott Hall didn't really have that many enemies. People mention Bret Hart because Scott was in the clique but Bret got on fine with Scott Hall, Kevin Nash and Sean Waltman.
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:46 PM   #48
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With every stories i've heard about Scott, it looks like his only enemy is himself.
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:56 PM   #49
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Well I've heard stories of him being a prick to people now and again. Him and Marty Jannetty didn't get on for years and Chris Jericho said in his book that Scott was a bit of a dick to him too.
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Old 10-12-2008, 10:24 PM   #50
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The Jimmy Kimmel joke had to do with Flavor Flav. Jimmy was talking about how Flav has had a lot of kids and he was a bad father, so he said the line "Chris Benoit was a better father than you." Kinda funny now, at the time it was a week or so after the Benoit killings, so it was considerably less funny then.

Now, to weigh in on the issue at hand. I've seen a lot of roasts, and I'm the type who laughs at basically anything, I don't get offended very much. I've seen the deaths of Kurt Cobain, Heath Ledger and others made fun of at roasts, and the jokes were funny, and I wasn't offended. The Owen Hart joke, while not very funny, is not offensive to me, but I can understand how someone close to him would be offended. I buy Hall's argument, if someone had made fun of my friend who had died tragically, I'd be pissed. Hell, at the Pamela Anderson Roast that Courtney Love attended, Jeff Ross said the line "How can Courtney Love look worse than Kurt Cobain?" which I thought was funny, but the woman was right there! Funny to me, but I can see how it's tasteless, the same as I can see how the Owen Hart line is tasteless. Bottom line: the man had every right to make the joke at a roast, and Scott Hall had every right to be upset. He shouldn't have went after the guy, but he should say whatever he wants. That's that.
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:49 PM   #51
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And yeah I would probably be offended if someone made a joke at a dead loved one's expense, but you tell me which is worse: telling an inappropriate, offensive joke at a roast or making a drunken spectacle of yourself and physically attacking another human being.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:10 AM   #52
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Actually the joke is worst.
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Old 10-14-2008, 04:18 PM   #53
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An off-color joke is worse than physical assault?
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Old 10-14-2008, 04:22 PM   #54
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Doing something drunk can be excused in certain circumstances. Being a cock when you're sober is worse.

What physical assault is this anyway? Not like wrestling fans to fucking exaggerate something at all is it? Scott Hall would have smashed most of the guys in that room in a legit fight plus he is like twice the size of the comic.
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Old 10-14-2008, 04:26 PM   #55
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"Threw punches until restrained by security" sounds like assault to me. And under what circumstances is "I hit him 'cause I was drunk" a suitable excuse? Punches are punches, no matter what your BAC is.
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Old 10-14-2008, 04:32 PM   #56
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Yeah, I'm sorry but making a joke in the company of people who he must have known there was a chance of a bad reaction (not to mention it was such a shit joke that it just comes off as insulting) is worse than a man drunkenly and physically pointing out he was wrong/sticking up for somebody he knew personally. And physical assault? Get real you PC tart, Hall wouldn't have been out of line breaking his nose, let alone whiffing some punches and looking like a clown doing crotch chops
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"Threw punches until restrained by security" sounds like assault to me. And under what circumstances is "I hit him 'cause I was drunk" a suitable excuse? Punches are punches, no matter what your BAC is.
Sounds like an assault to me too but that never happened. Watch the video instead of reading the report and then get back to me.
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Old 10-14-2008, 05:44 PM   #58
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owen was not the subject of the roast,Sheik was.
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Have you ever seen one? Maybe you don't understand the concept of them. Was the roast about Owen Hart? Erm... no.
I'm all for Hall standing up for the Nugget but seriously, have y'all ever seen a roast?? The dais and other performers ALWAYS get talked about, not just the Roasted..
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Sounds like an assault to me too but that never happened. Watch the video instead of reading the report and then get back to me.
I stand corrected. I hadn't watched the video yet. Hall still made an ass out of himself, but at least he didn't go after the guy physically.

And, for the record, I was never defending the joke. The joke was in bad taste. But at a roast, everybody roasts everybody, and for somebody to take that kind of exception to a joke (no matter how un-PC or how unfunny) is ridiculous. Nothing and nobody is off-limits at a roast.
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When you are being roasted, nothing is off limits. Your peers shouldn't be either if there are there at the roast. If someone is mocking the way one of my friends or family tragically dead then I'd have a problem. However if there are three people who would be off limits then it's Owen Hart, John Tenta and Nancy Benoit.
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I'm all for Hall standing up for the Nugget but seriously, have y'all ever seen a roast?? The dais and other performers ALWAYS get talked about, not just the Roasted..
They don't make fun of tragic deaths of people in front of their friends and family though. It's not like he was a junkie who OD'd or something.

It would be like making fun of Chris Benoit being a great husband with Kevin Sullivan sitting there. Not cool.
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