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Old 01-02-2009, 01:12 PM   #41
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Does anyone feel forced to buy the shitty games?
The point I (and Xero) are making is that if you have a Wii, you dont have a choice

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I remember when PS3 came out and the big complaint was not enough games
GTA4, Resistance and Motorstorm are bad games?
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:20 PM   #42
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The point I (and Xero) are making is that if you have a Wii, you dont have a choice



GTA4, Resistance and Motorstorm are bad games?
So you feel forced to buy shitty games? Interesting.

I said, people complained there were not enough, I made no argument about their quality.
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:22 PM   #43
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Wii appeals to a larger cross section of users. Wii caters to a greater cross section by making games and programs for these consumers.

You guys complain about it.

I'm guessing you're not buying the games that don't cater to you. So why give a shit about them?
When the MAJORITY of the games are shit (and I'm not talking 51% here, I'm talking more like 85%) it's a problem.

If I bought a Wii at launch I'd be thinking "Hmm, I bought this Wii on Nintendo's track record for good games. Why are all these shitty games coming out? They have clearly lowered the bar."

Which they have.

Again, I'm not saying they DON'T have good games, but I'm not going to buy into a game system that doesn't strive for quality software.

Nintendo is catering to the non-games, and it's an awesome strategy and the only reason they've been able to keep up with the other consoles. These people don't know what's "good", they just know what might be good because of the colorful box or a familiar topic. These are the same people who would buy a Wall-E game or a Madagascar game based solely on the fact that they liked the movie.

When you have so many uninformed people making uninformed purchasing decisions it's going to lead the developers into a false sense of security and cry fowl when these people stop caring when the 150th "Brain" game comes out.
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:27 PM   #44
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So you feel forced to buy shitty games? Interesting.

I said, people complained there were not enough, I made no argument about their quality.
Christ, I dont own a Wii. However if I did own one I would have no choice but to buy shitty games.

Not enough but 90% good ones > Too many and 10% good ones
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:30 PM   #45
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Nintendo have gotten lazy, they have two machines that literally print money so it's not easy.

I kept my Wii during the mad prices they were getting on EBay because I owned a Gamecube so I'm used to droughts and Nintendo's games are always awesome for me, but what did we get for Christmas? Wii Music and Animal Crossing. I like Animal Crossing (I've been told it's due to my homosexuality ) but it was just a carbon copy of the DS one.

2008 was also the first year in 10 years that there was no Zelda game relased, and I've loved every one of them. Hell, I can't even think of a good DS game for Christmas and that thing has had a steady stream of quality since it's been out.

Wii Music bombed, so I hope Nintendo quickly see the error of their ways and that this Motion Plus thing is actually any good.
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:50 PM   #46
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Christ, I dont own a Wii. However if I did own one I would have no choice but to buy shitty games.

Not enough but 90% good ones > Too many and 10% good ones
So you don't own one but you think they are shitty because, lots of people have them and you'd feel forced to buy shitty games you wouldn't want if you did have it.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:02 PM   #47
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Christ, I dont own a Wii. However if I did own one I would have no choice but to buy shitty games.

Not enough but 90% good ones > Too many and 10% good ones
Of course you have a choice. Yes, there is an overwhelming majority of bad games, but there are still good games. I own about twenty Wii games, and the only one I would consider shitty is Red Steel. What you're saying is making you look like one of these spineless consumers.

"There are too much bad games on the Wii, so if I had one, I would have no choice but to buy them!" Why? I know for a fact that you listen to a lot of music. You will probably agree that a vast majority of music being produced could be considered "shitty". So just because the artists that are most talked about are crap like Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers or Tokyo Hotel, do that mean you have no choice but to buy their CDs? No. You comb through the shitty releases and eventually find something that fits your taste.

Which is exactly what Wii owners like Hasney and myself do. Yes, Wii Music sucked, but on the opposite end of the spectrum, there was Mushroom Men, which is probably the most pleasant surprise I had in video games in a couple of years.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:11 PM   #48
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So you don't own one but you think they are shitty because, lots of people have them and you'd feel forced to buy shitty games you wouldn't want if you did have it.
I have had a few friends buy them and complain of shitty games and no good ones. They both sold it for a 360 around Christmas. I tried it and hated every game I played.

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Of course you have a choice. Yes, there is an overwhelming majority of bad games, but there are still good games. I own about twenty Wii games, and the only one I would consider shitty is Red Steel. What you're saying is making you look like one of these spineless consumers.

"There are too much bad games on the Wii, so if I had one, I would have no choice but to buy them!" Why? I know for a fact that you listen to a lot of music. You will probably agree that a vast majority of music being produced could be considered "shitty". So just because the artists that are most talked about are crap like Miley Cyrus, the Jonas Brothers or Tokyo Hotel, do that mean you have no choice but to buy their CDs? No. You comb through the shitty releases and eventually find something that fits your taste.

Which is exactly what Wii owners like Hasney and myself do. Yes, Wii Music sucked, but on the opposite end of the spectrum, there was Mushroom Men, which is probably the most pleasant surprise I had in video games in a couple of years.
Fair point, however shifting through all the crap to find the gem is not really that great. I prefer just to have alot of good games to choose from. Strangely enough, I dont have a PS3, Wii or 360

I did have a PS3, but sold it because GTA4 drove me nuts, I needed cash and I want an 80GB one anyways.
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Does anyone feel forced to buy the shitty games?
So you've moved on from one cop-out to another?
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:26 PM   #50
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Nintendo have gotten lazy, they have two machines that literally print money so it's not easy.

I kept my Wii during the mad prices they were getting on EBay because I owned a Gamecube so I'm used to droughts and Nintendo's games are always awesome for me, but what did we get for Christmas? Wii Music and Animal Crossing. I like Animal Crossing (I've been told it's due to my homosexuality ) but it was just a carbon copy of the DS one.

2008 was also the first year in 10 years that there was no Zelda game relased, and I've loved every one of them. Hell, I can't even think of a good DS game for Christmas and that thing has had a steady stream of quality since it's been out.

Wii Music bombed, so I hope Nintendo quickly see the error of their ways and that this Motion Plus thing is actually any good.
I'm still looking for that gem. No Mercy, Skies of Arcadia Legends (Technically a port), Rogue Squadron...Galaxy is the only Wii game I'm really wild about, and even that's not enough to make me love the system.
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Old 01-02-2009, 02:26 PM   #51
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But as long as they can make money with faux fitness and cooking games, who's going to stop them?
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Okami is "good," released on ps2 though so it doesn't count? I have 4 Wii games and I homebrewed the shit out of it and I am quite satisfied.
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This is what happens when gaming goes main stream.

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Yeah, it's a shame videogames are no longer played by a select group of intellectuals.
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I'm still looking for that gem. No Mercy, Skies of Arcadia Legends (Technically a port), Rogue Squadron...Galaxy is the only Wii game I'm really wild about, and even that's not enough to make me love the system.

That's the thing. Wario Ware, Wario Land, Mario Kart, Smash Brothers and Boom Blox are all fun games, but they in no way define the system like a lot of 360 and even now PS3 exclusives do.

If String Bad didn't come out on PC as well then my Wii would have gotten a lot more love recently.
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Yeah, it's a shame videogames are no longer played by a select group of intellectuals.
Damn straight.

In fact, ALL games have been dumbed down over the past 10 years.
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In fact, ALL games have been dumbed down over the past 10 years.
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