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Old 01-02-2009, 12:04 AM   #41
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Old 01-04-2009, 10:33 AM   #42
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Wow. He's committed himself to wrestling for a few months out of the last what? Decade-ish? Yeah, let's give him the title.

Seriously, though, the guy's a notorious flake who has no-showed a lot, phoned in a lot, and fucked up a lot. He's also the figurehead of a drug habit that could easily get WWE in trouble.

But yeah.
I'm not the biggest Jeff Hardy fan, but when the guy is out there every week putting on solid-to-good matches, doing shit which is fucking up his body, and working so hard to improve and portray a his character, I think it is so tasteless to call him "uncommited." As you said, he's been wrestling for the last decade. Yeah he's phoned it in, and yeah he's no-showed, and yeah, he's abused substances, but that is a decade he's spent doing what most of us here only talk about.

Jeff strikes me as the kind of guy to lose passion if he's not being rewarded. As WWE Champion, I cannot see Jeff Hardy being unmotived, or phoning it in. I also don't think the WWE would put the belt on Jeff Hardy unless they either a) knew he wasn't going to test positive for drugs, or b) they had a back-up plan in case he did test positive.

He's probably gone through weekly testing over the past few months, and if he fucks up while he's WWE Champion, he's the biggest fucking tool on the planet. And if he does fuck up, it's not like the WWE would just fire him as WWE Champion. He'd probably show up on SmackDown!, and be completely ANNIHILATED by some guy, essentially making them look like a big star.

It may not have been the move I would have gone with, but I'm not sure putting the WWE Title on Jeff Hardy is as bad as people are making it out to be. Especially when there are two other World Champions to cover-up for him. I mean, Eddie Guerrero, William Regal and Shawn Michaels have all been hooked on drugs, in the past, haven't they? If you never gave second and third chances to guys, we'd probably miss out on a few big stars and future legends.
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Old 01-04-2009, 10:34 AM   #43
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Old 01-04-2009, 03:05 PM   #44
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It may not have been the move I would have gone with, but I'm not sure putting the WWE Title on Jeff Hardy is as bad as people are making it out to be. Especially when there are two other World Champions to cover-up for him. I mean, Eddie Guerrero, William Regal and Shawn Michaels have all been hooked on drugs, in the past, haven't they? If you never gave second and third chances to guys, we'd probably miss out on a few big stars and future legends.
They also weren't being closely watched during those periods when it came to drugs. And they weren't a public company.

And Eddie isn't exactly the best of examples. In fact, he's exactly WHY people like Jeff shouldn't be put in this position. Even if he wasn't on drugs when he died the drugs were a large part of his death.
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Old 01-04-2009, 05:12 PM   #46
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I'm not the biggest Jeff Hardy fan, but when the guy is out there every week putting on solid-to-good matches, doing shit which is fucking up his body, and working so hard to improve and portray a his character, I think it is so tasteless to call him "uncommited." As you said, he's been wrestling for the last decade. Yeah he's phoned it in, and yeah he's no-showed, and yeah, he's abused substances, but that is a decade he's spent doing what most of us here only talk about.
It's also a decade where he was uncommitted. That's not tasteless, it's fact. He would dedicate himself only when it served him to do so. Solid-to-good is a low threshold, a low bar to set for dedication.

Not to mention, how many other people have spent a decade doing what we only talk about here? Shit, you can't really use that as a solid argument, because that describes the majhority of the wrestling world that has stuck to it at all. And I'm sure you could name fifty people who have been more dedicated off the top of your head.

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Jeff strikes me as the kind of guy to lose passion if he's not being rewarded. As WWE Champion, I cannot see Jeff Hardy being unmotived, or phoning it in. I also don't think the WWE would put the belt on Jeff Hardy unless they either a) knew he wasn't going to test positive for drugs, or b) they had a back-up plan in case he did test positive.
You just used a demonstration of his own lack of dedication to justify how he'll now be unlikely to flake out. Pyrrhic victory?

Regardless, you're putting faith in WWE's faith in someone? That seems to be solely out of convenience, since you seem to have limited faith in their judgment. Suddenly, though, you don't think WWE wouldn't do this unless they had a backup plan or knew he wouldn't test positive for drugs? Fuck, they planned on putting thetitle on Benoit the weekend he killed his family. Prescience abound.

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He's probably gone through weekly testing over the past few months, and if he fucks up while he's WWE Champion, he's the biggest fucking tool on the planet. And if he does fuck up, it's not like the WWE would just fire him as WWE Champion. He'd probably show up on SmackDown!, and be completely ANNIHILATED by some guy, essentially making them look like a big star.
Blind faith aside, him being decimated as champ doesn't really change much. It's still a massive PR nightmare for WWE, especially stupid for them if Vince is worried about a scandal, the stock value and his shareholders, or a possible investigation. God knows, the current Congressional investigation is no big deal.

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It may not have been the move I would have gone with, but I'm not sure putting the WWE Title on Jeff Hardy is as bad as people are making it out to be. Especially when there are two other World Champions to cover-up for him. I mean, Eddie Guerrero, William Regal and Shawn Michaels have all been hooked on drugs, in the past, haven't they? If you never gave second and third chances to guys, we'd probably miss out on a few big stars and future legends.
Eddie is a great example of why second chances aren't always good business sense. The guy was on drugs according to the coroner's report, and this was a guy who hadn't shown any real instances of drug behaviour.

Plus, you know, that public company bit Xero mentioned. The existing scandal that this could throw gasoline on. The elephant in the room.

Eddie should have ruined it for second chances, at least at the main event level. Benoit should have really been the straw that broke the camel's back. Even Angle should have been a warning sign. It's nice that Kurt's not dead, but that seems more like sheer luck than prescience.
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Old 01-04-2009, 07:15 PM   #47
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Don't quite get the whole "it's a public company now" thing, to be honest. Wouldn't that be less reason the WWE would put a guy that was going to flake in a top spot? And regardless of if they are publically traded or not, bad news is bad news, and is going to make the company look bad.

They survived Benoit murdering people, they'll survive Jeff flaking out.
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