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Old 02-21-2009, 04:17 PM   #41
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What a waste of a case that would be.
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Old 02-21-2009, 04:20 PM   #42
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No. He's a human charisma vacuum and I can't seem to give a damn.
Comparing Shelton Benjamin to Bob Holly would be like comparing ice cream to horse manure.
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Comparing Shelton Benjamin to Bob Holly would be like comparing ice cream to horse manure.
But are you looking for fertilization or a yummy treat?
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:10 PM   #45
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Shelton will end up with Haas after the draft, either in a feud or tag team or both. I say that because they've tried so many different angles with Shelton, face/heel/having a mother at ringside, and nothing is really working working. He's good, but he's too inconsistent and they've used him too inconsistently to push him towards the main event right now (unless it's a run at the ECW title, of course). His abilities are great, but he still lacks that IT factor that someone like MVP, who, even by going on a losing streak, remains HUGELY over with the fans has.

That said, I would rather see both of these men competing for the US title at Mania than in the MitB match, but I will take MVP or, going out on a limb, BIG SHOW to win the ladder match.
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I'll go ahead and stick to my guns.
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:22 PM   #46
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He;s actually been booked rather consistently since the move to ECW. He's been on a roll and has had some great matches since then. He's been US champ, for what, 8 months now?

Bob Holly's biggest claim to fame was being tag team partners with the 1-2-3 Kid and Cody Rhodes, so aside from being in a tag team, I don't see the similarity. Sure Shelton doesn't OOZE charisma, but he has more wrestling ability in his right pinky than Bob Holly could ever hope to have. Plus, I don't know about you, but I'll take wrestling ability over a catchy catchphrase any day of the week.
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:58 PM   #47
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Bob Holly was entertaining when he thought he was a super heavyweight and billed himself at 400 lbs, which of course led to Crash and the scale. Funny promos and then Holly got his ass kicked by Viscera. Good stuff.
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Really, I have to say Shelton can't talk at all but he's got in-ring charisma like a motherfucker. In that way he's like Booker T, he tells the story in ring well.
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Shelton Benjamin is going to get a push soon. The Undertaker liked him enough to give him more than one really impressive showing against him. All Shelton needs to do is lose the US Title. The man may not be uber-confident on the mic, but he oozes charisma. That match with Triple H when Shelton first came to RAW, yes, happened in 2003 or something, but made me mark out for Shelton for the simplest things.

Either a face turn or Money in the Bank would do Shelton well, I think.

Also, while everything I have heard has led me to believe Hardcore Holly would be an awful person to know, the man was never horrible in the ring, and to say he wasn't popular is a joke. The man was way more over than he deserved to be. The guy often got massive pops.
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Old 02-21-2009, 10:24 PM   #50
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Give Shelton a mouth piece, and he's good to go. They got that black kid who is great on the mic, he calls himself some kind of silver tounged pugil....oh

fuck, WWE...
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Old 02-21-2009, 11:26 PM   #51
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Shelton Benjamin is going to get a push soon. The Undertaker liked him enough to give him more than one really impressive showing against him. All Shelton needs to do is lose the US Title. The man may not be uber-confident on the mic, but he oozes charisma. That match with Triple H when Shelton first came to RAW, yes, happened in 2003 or something, but made me mark out for Shelton for the simplest things.

Either a face turn or Money in the Bank would do Shelton well, I think.

Also, while everything I have heard has led me to believe Hardcore Holly would be an awful person to know, the man was never horrible in the ring, and to say he wasn't popular is a joke. The man was way more over than he deserved to be. The guy often got massive pops.
You are completely nuts. And this is coming from the guy Hasney has begged as the site's craziest poster. Shelton has basically zero personality. He has a nickname, and his mic work is supposed to make him sound arrogant, but he's about as edgy as a circle. His ring work is fine, when he's not being sloppy and missing shit, but he, as an idividual, is bland as shit. I simply cannot care about him. When they pretended they were going to use him in his first move to Raw, I was impressed and intrigued. Today? He's Hardcore Holly.

Oh, and Juan, the comparrison wasn't about careers. It's about the ability to make me care.
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Old 02-22-2009, 02:32 AM   #52
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So about my Big Show prediction, I should explain that. After Mania he goes through the next couple of shows, maybe even PPVs taking challenges from other guys who were in the MitB match competing for the briefcase, but Show is unstoppable. He would probably even win some kind of Triple Threat match against Miz and Morrison for it where they maybe do their "fuck each other over" game for the case, so they don't really look bad coming out of it. So Show looks pretty strong at this point. Then your new US Champion, MVP, who was NOT in the MitB match because he was too busy winning the US belt, tells Show he will put up the US title for a shot at the case.

Oh yeah, and MVP ends the Kozlov streak too.
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You are completely nuts. And this is coming from the guy Hasney has begged as the site's craziest poster. Shelton has basically zero personality. He has a nickname, and his mic work is supposed to make him sound arrogant, but he's about as edgy as a circle. His ring work is fine, when he's not being sloppy and missing shit, but he, as an idividual, is bland as shit. I simply cannot care about him. When they pretended they were going to use him in his first move to Raw, I was impressed and intrigued. Today? He's Hardcore Holly.

Oh, and Juan, the comparrison wasn't about careers. It's about the ability to make me care.
I disagre. Shelton has always entertained me, to some degree. "APA is Crap," and his sketch with Vince McMahon and Trish Stratus for starters. The man has a lot of charisma, he just has a problem truly letting it shine through.

But yes, that is a pretty big problem.
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Old 02-22-2009, 03:11 AM   #54
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Having trouble letting charisma shine through is a pretty big oxymoron
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is it? when he's scripted, it can be tough to jump off of pages you odn't believe in. I'd be worried what Shelton's free reign would take his character. He's from South Carolina man, we Carolinians are fucking nuts! He may come to the ring in overalls with pigs and shit. Shelton needs to get a gimmick he connects with.
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Are you suggesting a Goodwins gimmick? If so, I think you're onto something.
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Not really. The Rock is arguably the most charismatic wrestler of all-time, but early on in his career, he was a bland-looking guy who couldn't connect with fans properly.

Shelton Benjamin has got so much ring presence, and such a fun personality, that it's hard to imagine him not being charismatic. It just doesn't shine through in his promos. Mic skills =/= charisma.
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Apparently Shelton grew up pretty tough. A promo about him being a self-made man could be something he can really connect with, and apply himself emotionally through.
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Rock didn't have trouble getting his charisma across though. He had plenty of it and everyone knew it. It shined through. The problem was that he was letting it shine through too much. He had to change it into other things. So showing charisma and connecting with the crowd are two different things.
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Shelton Benjamin has got something that a lot of people don't -- I will just end it there.
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