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Old 04-17-2009, 03:52 AM   #41
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:42 AM   #42
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I thought he was imitating Owen for a sec...








Nah just kiddin...sad to hear about the kid though.
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:53 AM   #43
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This kid took the fail boat to heaven




SERIOUSLY! Have you ever seen a wrestler for any company use a parachute for anything?
I'm sure it will be a Cena entrance one day.

Inevitably he'll overshoot the arena by a mile and run back.
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:10 AM   #44
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I feel sorry for you if you didn't understand any of that. I'll make it simple.

-The government and TV stations like NBC (who are owned by GE whom are the people who make money of wars.)
They blame wrestling games and they don't have to blame the WarGames they need to recruit a next generation of kids for war.

the government makes a free video game every year for god sakes and gives it away for free

once again that was probably to much for you to read or handle...
Yeah, because nobody in the media has ever blamed HALO or Battlefield.

Oh, wait...
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:13 AM   #45
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This kid took the fail boat to heaven




SERIOUSLY! Have you ever seen a wrestler for any company use a parachute for anything?
And Superman doesn't wear a striped beach towel. Therefore, no kid ever imitates Superman.

No, but seriously, the kid tried to rappel from the sky, but it just didn't work. He couldn't seem to get the line to stay up....
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:04 AM   #46
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well they are either going to find him on is front or his back Thrilla
But did he have a broken neck?
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:04 AM   #47
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Well, probably not or they would have blamed Kurt Angle.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:18 PM   #48
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Nothing significant will come out of any of this. So I don't see what the problem is.

On the other hand, the whole theory about the pentagon using wrestling to get attention away from war games or whatever that was about...
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Old 04-17-2009, 01:36 PM   #49
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Old 04-17-2009, 01:40 PM   #50
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Old 04-17-2009, 01:43 PM   #51
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Old 04-17-2009, 02:53 PM   #52
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I never said that the Army or pentagon pays for Modern Combat, they give them aid and money though.

And if you actually read my post you'd read the part where I say the military even makes a game every year(Americas army)

And am I saying it's a conspiracy against wrestling? Yes I believe so...when the media and police conspire together to make something out to be something its not, than it would be a conspiracy against wrestling I guess.

it’s funny, I’ve been reading these post forever and usually people mock noids posts... is this his defence mechanism?

Whom ever said I’m wrong about the pentagon sponsoring military games as well as movies, even having the right to edit the movies. Proof me wrong.

Seriously, you're the parent...don't you think you'd get the best case settlement suing THQ and WWE and opposed to just EA? I’ve never seen a perashoot in wrestling.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:09 PM   #53
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Post you sure showed me...
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As far as movies go, I have no idea what you are talking about. Do you have any kind of list from the Pentagon we could see?
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/ma...holl-m14.shtml

I clicked pentagon censor movies and clicked "I’m feeling lucky"... Google, it isn't hard to use.

(edit, I just read the reference is socialist news[but I guess you're (USA) a socialist country now]) you can find more, I just clicked on the first one


Well I guess it happens in movies AND video-games as you said yourself. Yes I knew what America's Army was, that’s why I said the military makes its own game every year. You don't think they offer aid to these other games? do you want me to find you proof for that too... how about this time you proof ME WRONG as I don't need to prove you right on anything, I read a lot and that's something I read in college for crying out loud. Proof me wrong....or call me noob or stupid, whatever you prefer.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:11 PM   #55
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I thought he was imitating Owen for a sec...
I was thinking the same thing, especially if the "parachute" was blue.
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:53 PM   #58
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haha, Owen was the first thing that came to my mind too......it was the only thing that made sense , with the perashoot being a cape.... I bet you anyone watching over the edge that night or just remember the whole thing thought of Owen at some point....4 people have mentioned him including me...

RIP.... he didn't have any dependency's on drugs (as far as we know) but he did have a dependency on his family... sad sad thing..If he wouldn't have retired, by 2002 he would have been the biggest locker room leader along with taker....respected verteren
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Old 04-17-2009, 03:54 PM   #59
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http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/ma...holl-m14.shtml

I clicked pentagon censor movies and clicked "I’m feeling lucky"... Google, it isn't hard to use.

(edit, I just read the reference is socialist news[but I guess you're (USA) a socialist country now]) you can find more, I just clicked on the first one


Well I guess it happens in movies AND video-games as you said yourself. Yes I knew what America's Army was, that’s why I said the military makes its own game every year. You don't think they offer aid to these other games? do you want me to find you proof for that too... how about this time you proof ME WRONG as I don't need to prove you right on anything, I read a lot and that's something I read in college for crying out loud. Proof me wrong....or call me noob or stupid, whatever you prefer.
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Producers and directors wanting access to military equipment, locations or personnel, or even Department of Defense (DOD) archival footage—which was always very costly—were required to have their work vetted by the Pentagon. Those prepared to reshape their movies in line with Pentagon directives were given substantial financial and technical help; those unwilling to accept its dictates were denied any assistance.
It's basically like the government becomes a movie producer. They back you, so they get to make whatever suggestions they see fit. You're still free to shop your movie around some place else. In your first post you indicating that every movie that came out was subject to automatic government restrictions. According to this article some of the more successful war films, like Apocalypse Now or Forrest Gump, have refused alterations.

I'm not sure what "proof" I'm meant to look for. You're the one that came in here claiming that the pentagon was secretly rooting for all these war games to succeed, if they weren't in fact secretly backing them. I pointed out that they weren't the masterminds behind Modern Combat, but that they did make America's Army, and you agreed. The onus is on you to find the proof of your own claim if you are to be believed.

By the way, by the logic of the pentagon's movie list, wouldn't they have a similar list or department for games? So you could probably rule out any sort of war game that makes the military look bad. Just to give you a head start on that proof.
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:42 PM   #60
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try this "pentagon and the video game industry" and feel lucky...
(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3131181/)

ya they take out the blood and make it look fun...it's a recruiting tool. stop trying to argue with something that’s true. Read above, or do your own research.

"It's basically like the government becomes a movie producer. They back you, so they get to make whatever suggestions they see fit. You're still free to shop your movie around some place else. In your first post you indicating that every movie that came out was subject to automatic government restrictions"

I said military, and if not it was surely implied as I was talking about war games. I'll get the name of a movie about such censorship; I think you should watch it they spend a great deal on how the pentagon makes them put things in movies.


I doubt you read the whole article if you stop at that... *if you did you wouldn't put that quote, in less you're the bill O'reily of this board. I could easily post a few paragraphs and change the whole story making it look like the pentagon is in charge of the movies (if i take a quote from back in world war 2 era) just like you took them talking in past-tence quotes about how it was and leaving out how it got worse.*(edit)

The point is video games, google "pentagon and the video game industry" and click "i'm feeling lucky"
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Old 04-17-2009, 05:49 PM   #61
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I didn't stop at that part. I quoted it because it is the only relevant portion of the article. Whomever has the money, be it in a video game or movie gets the say in what goes in. I asked you to find some more examples of the military producing games, and through your bizarre method of googling by way of feeling lucky you did. I noticed that the game you selected happens to be on the list of "see other" in the America's Army" wikipedia link that I began this discussion with. It also meets the criteria I suggested in post 59 of having all the excess violence stripped away.

But the thing is, we're not really arguing over how many video games the military produces or which films have used the military's suggestions/money. The director is free to not take the money and not get access to the Pentagon's knowledge by the admission of your own first article. As I previously stated, many films have done so and succeeded.

Here's a question: do you know how movies get made?
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I never said that the Army or pentagon pays for Modern Combat, they give them aid and money though.

And if you actually read my post you'd read the part where I say the military even makes a game every year(Americas army)

And am I saying it's a conspiracy against wrestling? Yes I believe so...when the media and police conspire together to make something out to be something its not, than it would be a conspiracy against wrestling I guess.

it’s funny, I’ve been reading these post forever and usually people mock noids posts... is this his defence mechanism?

Whom ever said I’m wrong about the pentagon sponsoring military games as well as movies, even having the right to edit the movies. Proof me wrong.

Seriously, you're the parent...don't you think you'd get the best case settlement suing THQ and WWE and opposed to just EA? I’ve never seen a perashoot in wrestling.
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Old 04-17-2009, 06:21 PM   #64
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In want sense? As in a producer backs the movie and the director tells the director what to do, if you're asking if I'm in the movie business... No I'm not. But I have a pretty good idea on how a movie gets maid/marketed. Explain your question better, as well as it’s relevance. I Know how a movie gets censored pretty well as i’ve read about it and also seen a documentary on it.

Interestingly enough you started talking about how it's not what we’re arguing about yet didn't stay on track with what we WERE talking about. and that is that the media has interest, as you've said yourself after reading the links, in these games for military recruitment.

it's as simple as they have more interests (as WWE is pro military/recruitment...so they aren't totally useless to them )in the games like modern combat and not nearly so much companies like WWE which are expendable.

I happen to think if you jump out of a perashoot and think you can land off 2 story's i'd put my money on battlefield over any wrestling game ever made. Can we not agree on that.
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Where is the relevance with any of this garbage you're sprouting and the media sensationalisation of a kid's tragic death? Dude, we don't need a conspiracy theory to understand that a) journalists like to do stuff like this, it makes their job easy and b) everyone loves a scapegoat.

You remind me of Joey's attempts to appear smart in the episode of Friends when he buys one volume of an Encyclopedia. It's like you've recently seen a TV show or read something online about this and really, really want to show how smart you are by repeating it to anyone in ear-shot!
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Old 04-17-2009, 06:34 PM   #67
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You think I'm the one that derailed the thread? Please refer to page one and your rant about our MEDIAocracy.

So you know about what a producer does. Why do you have remaining issues? If the government is giving money to make a film, why is there a problem? Should they not be afforded the same rights as any other producer? You can through around the word "censored" as if it's going to skew the argument, but what it comes down to is the way the movie is produced. If the director doesn't like the changes he doesn't have to take the movie.

I have no idea what you are trying to say about wrestling games and military games and "perashoots." Be more clear. In fact, be more clear in general.
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:28 PM   #71
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the edits were done right affter the post, within a minute jack-ass. I actually put a star next to any edit...
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:29 PM   #72
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Where is the relevance with any of this garbage you're sprouting and the media sensationalisation of a kid's tragic death? Dude, we don't need a conspiracy theory to understand that a) journalists like to do stuff like this, it makes their job easy and b) everyone loves a scapegoat.

You remind me of Joey's attempts to appear smart in the episode of Friends when he buys one volume of an Encyclopedia. It's like you've recently seen a TV show or read something online about this and really, really want to show how smart you are by repeating it to anyone in ear-shot!

First thanks for agreeing with what I said, and how the media "likes to use scape goats"..

Second I'm sorry for insulting everyone’s intelligence, you already all already came to this conclusion but it sounds like a conspiracy so let’s just talk is if the kid actually did like wrestling.

Third, you made me laugh pretty hard with that 1 encyclopaedia reference, there are many more encyclopaedia... Sorry I haven't gotten around to the WWF Encyclopaedia yet. I'm no one trick pony, and I guess you’ll find that out if you continue to mock everything I say, man some people on the board have some sort of inferiority complex in the real world and try and act like kings here. If I were to have such a conversation on campus or at work, It would have gone nothing like this. If someone disagreed they’d say something in a mature mater. Also I doubt the guy standing there that just met me would have the nerve to say “you probably saw some show about it recently”, how about I’ve written essays on the subject (that for some reason where graded in the 80s-90s, tpww marks harder than college I guess) as well reading books and writing essays on a variety of subjects for years on end, I don’t do fiction in less its TV.


I guess I can't edit any typos's i might notice after posting it since I get criticized for that too, even though I’ve always left a * next to what I edit within a minute of the post...
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:49 PM   #74
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Sorry I would make an edit, I meant the kid doing it cause of wrestling and not liking wrestling.
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Old 04-17-2009, 11:50 PM   #75
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"man some people on the board have some sort of inferiority complex in the real world and try and act like kings here."

Yeah, you aren't exactly acting the opposite here, buddy.
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Old 04-18-2009, 12:07 AM   #77
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atleast Xero is funny, and possibly intoxicated...
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Old 04-18-2009, 12:12 AM   #79
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i take that back....
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