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Old 04-29-2009, 08:11 PM   #41
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How about the fact that Vince was man enough to let him know he couldn't afford it and told him to go to WCW for more money, and do not tell me Vince didn't think it would hurt the WWF for Bret to go to WCW.
That had nothing to do with Vince not wanting to pay Bret an insane amount of money over 19 more years though right.

Vince obviously didn't think it would hurt him or he wouldn't have done it. Infact, he went on record saying he knew WCW would fuck up Bret's career.

Have you ever had a job? Really? I'm serious. I'm asking because there is no fucking way you'd have as much loyality to your employer as you expect Bret Hart to have for Vince McMahon.

Where is Vince McMahon's loyality to everyone he fired? Especially the loyality to guys like Andrew Martin who he fired when he was recovering from a broken neck suffered working for Vince.

If he is so loyal, why doesn't he pay any benefits, taxes or holiday hours to any wrestlers. Wrestlers should be loyal to Vince McMahon though right?

Again, HAVE A WORD!
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:07 PM   #42
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Serious questions:
  1. Why would Michaels WANT to apologise?
  2. What's in it for him? To make Hart feel better? So that Hart would potentially induct him into the HoF sometime in the future? So Canadians won't boo him anymore (never gonna happen BTW)?
  3. What exactly should Michaels be apologising for - following a directive from his employer (oops that's right, sorry...from his "Principle Contractor")?
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:44 AM   #43
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Aside from being a willing participant in a double cross, I don't see any reason why Michaels should apologise either actually. The impression I get though is that Michaels is willing to apologise for that and for his general attitude at that time. The second is his own business though. I have no problem with anyone being a dickhead really as long as they do business.
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:55 PM   #44
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I have no problem with anyone being a dickhead really as long as they do business.
Have a word.
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Old 04-30-2009, 09:00 PM   #45
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I'm not taking any blame for it either.
YOU SCREWED BRET! YOU SCREWED BRET!
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:11 AM   #46
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Have a word.


How sad.
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:25 AM   #47
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Bret was a dickhead, and didn't do business (hence why Vince had to do business for him.)
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Old 05-01-2009, 01:45 PM   #48
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Serious questions:
  1. Why would Michaels WANT to apologise?
  2. What's in it for him? To make Hart feel better? So that Hart would potentially induct him into the HoF sometime in the future? So Canadians won't boo him anymore (never gonna happen BTW)?
  3. What exactly should Michaels be apologising for - following a directive from his employer (oops that's right, sorry...from his "Principle Contractor")?
Well, HBK is suppose to be a Christian, and lying is a sin according to his religion. His religion also says that you're suppose to love your enemies, and that "if your enemy is hungry, feed him".

So yeah, Shawn should submit, be humble, and tell Bret he's sorry for lying to him.
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Old 05-01-2009, 02:41 PM   #49
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1, He lied in the dressing room. If he felt it was the right thing to do he would have said so to Bret. He sat there crying with the guilt.

Bret even went up to him and shook his hand after punching Vince out and Shawn then proceed to tell Bret that ...wait,no...he cried even harder while shaking Brets hand
Shawn probably went back to the hotel, got coked up and buried his face in Chyna's muff ( His tears were probaby the only wetness her pussy felt in ages)


2, To rid himself of the guilt he is carrying inside him. To sincerely make ammends for being the catalyst in ruining someone who put him over cleanly for his first Heavyweight champion, the guy who introduced him to the ladder match.

3, Michaels was WILLING TO DO IT. Vince was going to let Bret hand the belt back on raw then have a tournament for it. HHH piped up about screwing Bret , Shawn was all for it. Don't give us that "just doing what your boss asked you do" crap! Shawn refused to do almost anything asked of him. He even went as far as to lose his smile to avoid doing a job to bret for the HUGE job Bret did at WM12


In short, unless you know the history and facts dont fucking post. Oh and I think Shawn's whole christianty thing is a fucking work. but thats just my opinion.
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:05 PM   #50
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Bret was a dickhead, and didn't do business (hence why Vince had to do business for him.)
My God you are an idiot.

By the way, Vince just called me asking for your number. He hasn't had a blowjob in a while so start licking your lips.
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Old 05-01-2009, 06:05 PM   #51
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Shawn and Hunter lied because they were worried Bret was gonna whip their asses. He already punked Shawn out once, and I think all the boys knew an ass-whipping was coming for Vince from the Hitman next. That's why HBK and HHH lied. Hell, I read that Pat Patterson was showing Shawn Michaels the night before some special wrestling holds for Shawn to try and use just in case Bret started to shoot style wrestle him in the ring.

Bret Hart was a legit tough guy, and Shawn, and the rest of those guys knew it too.
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Old 05-01-2009, 08:10 PM   #53
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Shawn and Hunter lied because they were worried Bret was gonna whip their asses. He already punked Shawn out once, and I think all the boys knew an ass-whipping was coming for Vince from the Hitman next. That's why HBK and HHH lied. Hell, I read that Pat Patterson was showing Shawn Michaels the night before some special wrestling holds for Shawn to try and use just in case Bret started to shoot style wrestle him in the ring.

Bret Hart was a legit tough guy, and Shawn, and the rest of those guys knew it too.

It was Brisco actually that was going over some protection holds for Shawn. Wouldnt have worked if Bret concentrated mostly on HBK but yeah. Patterson would have raped Shawn had he known what was going down.
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:05 PM   #54
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How about the fact that Vince was man enough to let him know he couldn't afford it and told him to go to WCW for more money, and do not tell me Vince didn't think it would hurt the WWF for Bret to go to WCW.
Yeah, like Loose Cannon, I also hate this topic, but I fail to see this point. If you are under contract, your boss saying "Hey, dude, sorry, I can't pay you," is not "being a man" or an excuse not to owe the money.

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Serious questions:
  1. Why would Michaels WANT to apologise?
  2. What's in it for him? To make Hart feel better? So that Hart would potentially induct him into the HoF sometime in the future? So Canadians won't boo him anymore (never gonna happen BTW)?
  3. What exactly should Michaels be apologising for - following a directive from his employer (oops that's right, sorry...from his "Principle Contractor")?
Shawn would probably want to apologise for clearing his conscience. Pretty much what Rob said -- it is his own business, but being born again and a different person now, if there is guilt, apologising could rid it.

As for what he's apologising for, it'd be the dishonesty in the part he played. Not following orders, but lying about them, and not putting his foot down and saying "Look, this is wrong, can't we just do this honourably."
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