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Old 06-09-2009, 04:21 PM   #41
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Vickie did her job as a heel. That's why people booed her.

People booed X-Pac because they truly disliked him (though I was always a mark for him).
Loaded assumption is loaded.
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:57 PM   #42
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scrrech - How do you know Vickie didn't get that kind of heat?

Xero - Haha. My old man did that all the time when I was growing up. I thought it was funny. He was such a walking soap opera.



I remember everything......if I had a buck for everytime I'm asked that very above question in real life, and online, I'd be rich.

I recall you were....I think 15 back then, and you use to backyard wrestle or something, you would wrestle matches on a bed mattress I believe.
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Old 06-09-2009, 06:07 PM   #43
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:07 PM   #44
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Normally I wouldn't bother to go further, but I have some time on my hands.

How are you so sure that she did get that kind of heat?
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:08 PM   #45
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Well, I meant what I said. I don't think a non-wrestler should be the top heel. That's disrespectful to the wrestlers that are actually going out there, and killing themselves in the ring.
No, it just shows that those wrestlers going out there aren't as good at generating heat as Vickie.
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:22 PM   #47
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TBH I think a lot of the heat she got originally was "X-Pac Heat" because she was truly awful on the mic. But over time and through her relationship with Edge I think the character evolved to embrace that heat and she ended up getting legitimate "Heel Heat".
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:23 PM   #48
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TBH I think a lot of the heat she got originally was "X-Pac Heat" because she was truly awful on the mic. But over time and through her relationship with Edge I think the character evolved to embrace that heat and she ended up getting legitimate "Heel Heat".
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:27 PM   #49
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Look, the reason why Vickie was a 'good' heel instead of an 'X-Pac' heel is because people paid to see her get her comeuppance. When she and Edge were in a feud, their opponent was elevated and the business made money. Vickie = ratings.

X-Pac heat is the kind where fans may boo him live, but at home they change the channel or don't buy merch or whatever. X-Pac heat means that the fans lose interest. Good heel heat means the fan watches in order to see the heel get beat up, or the smark mark like me watches because I appreciate how masterfully said heel pisses off the crowd.

And why the bad feelings for her? She's by all accounts a nice woman who tragically lost a husband far too early. WWE gave her some TV time, and she materialized into this red-hot heel. Now she's going home to take care of her kids after having made good money. Nothing wrong with that.
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:33 PM   #50
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Yeah, kinda tells you the mindset of your average wrestling fan when they remark about Vicky's looks, body, etc. It really is sickening to see that being said.

You'd think that some of us wrestling fans - who are usually not the coolest kid on the block/don't have the best bodies/looks - would be a little more forgiving.
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Old 06-09-2009, 08:23 PM   #51
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Yeah, kinda tells you the mindset of your average wrestling fan when they remark about Vicky's looks, body, etc. It really is sickening to see that being said.

You'd think that some of us wrestling fans - who are usually not the coolest kid on the block/don't have the best bodies/looks - would be a little more forgiving.
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Old 06-09-2009, 08:38 PM   #52
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:24 PM   #54
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Yeah the whole way she left is fucked up. the way she looks was not pivotal to her character and really didn't matter. I know WWE isn't exactly a moral holy ground, but holy shit... is it really necesarry to just be that plain mean to an employee? She doesn't even look that bad... she's jsut a regular woman in her late 30s early 40s. She's a fucking mom for christ's sake.

That being said, I still could not stand her character. I didn't mind the whole "excuse me" schtick... but it was more, all her lines seemed rehearsed. It's not as much of a complaint about her skill as it is about the wwe as a whole. They complain about the internet community ruining the magic, but they themselves don't try to add any sort of legitimacy too the product. They go out of their way to make it seem fake.
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Yeah, kinda tells you the mindset of your average wrestling fan when they remark about Vicky's looks, body, etc. It really is sickening to see that being said.

You'd think that some of us wrestling fans - who are usually not the coolest kid on the block/don't have the best bodies/looks - would be a little more forgiving.
Yeah, but we're not going on TV every week.

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Look, the reason why Vickie was a 'good' heel instead of an 'X-Pac' heel is because people paid to see her get her comeuppance. When she and Edge were in a feud, their opponent was elevated and the business made money. Vickie = ratings.

X-Pac heat is the kind where fans may boo him live, but at home they change the channel or don't buy merch or whatever. X-Pac heat means that the fans lose interest. Good heel heat means the fan watches in order to see the heel get beat up, or the smark mark like me watches because I appreciate how masterfully said heel pisses off the crowd.

And why the bad feelings for her? She's by all accounts a nice woman who tragically lost a husband far too early. WWE gave her some TV time, and she materialized into this red-hot heel. Now she's going home to take care of her kids after having made good money. Nothing wrong with that.
She didn't earn it.

And you know what? A lot of people I've spoken to also channged the channel, when she was on, or would mute the TV, and go do something else, or just turn it off. Seriously, she almost caused this wrestling fan to turn off Raw for another few years, but I kept trying to enjoy the product, and I'm glad I did, and the wrestling gods have answered my prayer, and now she is gone, and I hope she will stay gone. She had no talent at all. I'm sorry for what happened to her husband, but that doesn't mean she has to kill us with her looks and face every week.....
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