QUESTION - Would you like to see Shawn Michaels replace Ric Flair in Evolution?

[Nowhere Man]

Originally Posted by Heyman Randy Orton isn't over? Also - Orton and Batista just FOUGHT and DEFEATED The Rock and Mick Foley. I think Orton and Batista are more over than you think.

That's basically saying Hardcore Holly's over because he got a feud with Brock Lesnar. The fact that they're booked like people give a fuck about them doesn't necessarily make it so.

Originally Posted by The CyNick If you put HBK and HHH in a group together people will automatically think DX, that puts Orton in a spot where he's an afterthought to HBK and HHH. Thats not good. Orton just has to stand up to Hunter and he's a main eventer. I think I say this every coupld of weeks, but Orton is already basically a main eventer. DX added a bunch of mid card guys, and it was lead by a guy who was further down the card right than Orton is right now. Yet DX managed to be the hottest thing in the comapny next to Austin. Orton can easily lead a group of mid card guys and make them main eventers 6-8 months from now. For proof, look at how easily the WWE got Benjamin over to main event level, all he had to do was beat HHH and the fans were with him. Same could happen with guys like Maven or Cade (or why not add Benjamin to the group?) In terms of HHH not being a successful face, who cares? HHH shouldn't be looked upon to be the main guy in the company, but he is. He's not effective as a heel in terms of drawing money (yeah he gets some pops, but show me a promoter who makes money off pops and I'll show you a flying monkey), so what would it matter if he's ineffective as a face in drawing money? It would eb the same thing. You talked about Flair, and he should also be a face, which is why I think an alliance between HHH, HBK and Flair would be effective because fans could cheer them all instead of forcing them to do something they dont want to. And furthermore if they really wanted to turn HBK heel, which I still maintain wont work (in large part because HBK is a 'different person' now) they should throw him on SD where they actually need heels. Orton vs HHH should be the focus for the company, nothing should get in the way to complicate that.

I would of responded to this thread in a broader manner, but I haven't been on here the last week and a bunch of people already said everything I would say. But Yeah CyNick, I was thinking last night while watching Raw that if Orton and Batista ever break away from Trips and Flair, Shelton Benjamin would be an EXCELLENT Candidate to add to The "New Evolution" Stable. I was thinking because he's so over with the fans right now and usually heel turns work best when guys are really over with the crowd. Take Rock right before he turned Corporate. They add Maven to the group when he returns and I think there set. The only problem I see however, is that Benjamin is looking mega strong right now and him and Orton seem to be on the same level. If Benjamin turns then it would seem like a group with two leaders.

Now I definately see Orton on HHH's level in the next 4-5 months. I know you're always going to disagree with this Nowhere Man, but I think Orton can hold his own and be a legitimate threat to HHH come Mania next year if they ever do the match. But he should really start the process of turning of Trips and Flair within the next 2 months. Like I said before, it should be a slow turn that should be built up toward a final blow in which we actaully see Orton, Batista and whomever attack HHH and Flair. Then HBK would come down and him and Trips would do the hug thing.

[PureHatred]

Maven? What exactly has Maven done to deserve any push of any kind? The boy can't stay healthy for any length of time and at no point have I been impressed with any of his work in the WWE.

I think most people take it for granted that Batista and Orton are going to turn on HHH/Flair down the road. If they decide to add some members to their stable at that point, then I suppose you could add Shelton; although, personally I would say that Christian and Trish would fit better, or even Garrison Cade or a debuting OVW worker.

Anyone but Maven, who at this point looks like a bust on the Kwame Brown level.

[the_rock's_#1_fan]

1.) HBK & EVOLUTION don't mix just like oil and H20, people OK? so let's get that straight.

2.) NO HHH WILL NOT have the world heavyweight championship over his right shoulder anytime soon, as the creative team is planning a turn for him to turn [baby]face (good guy for all those not in the know about wrestling vocabulary), and everybody knows that HHH being a good guy with a belt would never work because it just doesn't fit his character...but it is definitely working with Benoit being face and having the belt right now.

and finally, 3.) My prediction for the Triple threat: Once again, HHH will tap to the crossface. As for the 2-ON-1 handicap match: Chris Jericho will win when as he is losing BADLY to Trish, the legal person in on the Christian/Trish tag team, when all of a sudden, your NEW women's champion (yep, that'll happen too ), LITA, comes out and gives trish the Lita DDT while the ref has his back turned, and then quickly she retreats to the back as Y2J pins trish for the 1-2-3, and Christian will be unable to interfere as Edge will have him distracted on the outside while all this is happening. Just a thought...I know it probably won't happen exactly all this way, but one can hope, right?

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by the_rock's_#1_fan 1.) HBK & EVOLUTION don't mix just like oil and H20, people OK? so let's get that straight. 2.) NO HHH WILL NOT have the world heavyweight championship over his right shoulder anytime soon, as the creative team is planning a turn for him to turn [baby]face (good guy for all those not in the know about wrestling vocabulary), and everybody knows that HHH being a good guy with a belt would never work because it just doesn't fit his character...but it is definitely working with Benoit being face and having the belt right now. and finally, 3.) My prediction for the Triple threat: Once again, HHH will tap to the crossface. As for the 2-ON-1 handicap match: Chris Jericho will win when as he is losing BADLY to Trish, the legal person in on the Christian/Trish tag team, when all of a sudden, your NEW women's champion (yep, that'll happen too ), LITA, comes out and gives trish the Lita DDT while the ref has his back turned, and then quickly she retreats to the back as Y2J pins trish for the 1-2-3, and Christian will be unable to interfere as Edge will have him distracted on the outside while all this is happening. Just a thought...I know it probably won't happen exactly all this way, but one can hope, right?

Jeez, I hope they dont give the title to Lita.

Actually, I can see Lita and Jericho doing something together, but I highly doubt she'll get the Womens title. Victoria still has plenty of opponents that she can work with. She's still got Molly that they could do something with, and Jazz should get a push at some point along with Gail Kim. MEanwhile Trish and Lita can work a secondary program mixing with the guys in mixed tags, and then eventually they can build to a Trish-Victoria program.

[BasicThuganomics]

I'm glad that rocks #1 fan is here to explain wrestling vocabulary to us morons who are not in the know about these things...