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Old 11-04-2009, 01:02 PM   #41
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If you're going to "niche" ECW then I would suggest keeping the same talent but either adding a new championship or modifying the conditions of which the ECW Title is contested. I sorta like having a "Beat the Champ" Title like Smokey Mountain Wrestling had:
The storyline concept of the title was that the champion would defend his title every week against a "randomly drawn" opponent. For each successful defense of the belt, the wrestler won $1000, and if the champion could win five title matches in a row, including the title win, then the title was vacated and the champion received a $5000 bonus

Thats how it worked in SMW. I'd change the monetary amounts to $5000 and $10,000 for today though. I also think it would work best if it were a seperate title and wrestlers from all three brands could be "randomly drawn". That would triple the potential challengers each week, give the undercard workers on Raw and Smackdown something to do, and occasionally you could get a Raw or Smackdown main eventer on ECW (having been randomly drawn).
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:17 PM   #42
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:34 PM   #43
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I respect your steadfastness in your opinion here, Heyman, but at this point in time I must strongly disagree with your assertion that RAW is the "A" show right now. It was, yes, for a VERY long time, the dominant brand in all the WWE. But a new dynamic has come along and changed all that and allowed SD! to take the reigns of the WWE by developing stars better, and avoiding comedy angles for the most part, which on RAW are way overdone these days.
DAMN iNATOR,

I think you're missing my point. All I am saying is that the WWE themselves POSITION RAW as being the "A" show...or the #1 show. WWE Management wants fans to believe that RAW is "the flagship"....and the number one show.

I am NOT saying that RAW is more entertaining than Smackdown, or that RAW delivers higher quality programming. I agree with you that Smackdown, and even ECW, have been cooler than RAW for a while now (for all the reasons you listed).

And that is all I am really saying:

-If WWE management wants the fans to believe that RAW is their #1 show
-If ECW and Smackdown consistently produce better matches with their talents
-If smaller wrestlers (Cruiserweights) have absolutely no chance of becoming legitimate main-eventers that can have a lengthy, non-transitional, runs as world champions...

Then

-Why not structure the 3 brands as such that caters to this mentality?

Why not put guys like CM Punk, Jeff Hardy (if/when he comes back), Christian, Shelton Benjamin, etc., etc. on RAW where the BEST possible matches will be on the show that WWE management clearly wants people to believe that is the #1 show?

It seems fairly straightforward to me that this is what the WWE should do.....but they, and others on here, do not see that I guess.
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:42 PM   #44
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I think ECW could use a bit more credibility, don't get me wrong. I don't really like the idea of it being a "niche" show, though. I'd like it to be a forceable entity, though.

What I think ECW could use, is a big star. Not just a bigger guy in a small pond, but an actual big fish to make ECW seem like an ocean. Rey Mysterio, in my opinion, would be perfect for this. When he got suspended, I thought bringing him to ECW would be a good move. It lets him "pay off" his dues a bit, and it also helps out ECW tremendously by giving them a former World Heavyweight Champion, and a guy that the fans genuinely care about now and not someone they will care about later.

When Legacy splits, I wouldn't mind seeing Cody Rhodes moved to ECW. He has main event-level exposure on RAW, so people know who he is now. There would just be less of a roof for him on ECW. I feel that he would pull the show up more than he would pull it down. Cody and Goldust could also have their feud there.

I'd also like to see the ECW Title treated like an actual World Title. Why the fuck not? If they ever do another Champion of Champion Match, I'd like to see the ECW Champion get the win while the WWE and World Heavyweight Champion cancel each other out. Maybe shake up the belt design a bit. I know the 17lbs of platinum is new, but give it a distinct, but unmistakeably gold design, and I think it will help the belt out a lot.

I still maintain that ECW could benefit from a Television Title. Some say there are too many championships, but with three separate brands, I think that should be expected. ECW essentially has two levels: The guys involved in the ECW Title picture, and those who aren't. The guys who aren't could use something to put on their resume. It looks better for a guy like Paul Burchill to be able to call himself a three or four time ECW TV Champion when he moves to RAW or SmackDown!, instead of having nothing there. I actually believe this has been why the ECW Title has moved down in stature a bit.

To kill both the lack of big stars and lack of title credibility problem, you can use one man: Edge. He's won every single title there is to win. When he returns, people will take notice. If Edge returned to ECW, and said that he wants to be the ECW Champion because it's the only thing he is yet to achieve in his WWE career, then people will take notice of both him and the ECW Title. If Christian is holding the ECW Title, then even better. There is a history there, and a match like that could actually get time on the WrestleMania card, for example.

ECW is a developmental brand, no doubt about it, but there are different layers they can develop through it. You can have the really new guys, who get their start there; but you can also have guys that have nothing else really pressing to do, or are caught between being a main eventer and mid-carder on RAW or SmackDown!. R-Truth, for example, seems to be someone the WWE wants to push. Why not push him on ECW, where the competition is thinner? Then use the ECW Title to launch him into the WWE or World Heavyweight Title pictures as he'd be a "former World Champion."
Good post. I can't say I agree with everything you said, but it's a good post nonetheless.

I like the idea of Rey Mysterio being on ECW (especially under my idea of ECW being devoted to CW's, female wrestlers, and useless hosses). A guy like Rey
Mysterio could really help guys like Evan Bourne, etc. garner massive credibility through a series of 5 star matches.

Believe it or not Noid, I think that in many ways, we are actually saying the same thing (i.e. ECW being a 'forceable entity' as opposed to just being another show).

I think for ECW to be a forceable entity however, the show needs to be unique in a MAJOR way.....so that people know what it's about and don't perceive it to be "WWE light."

However - another danger in giving ECW too many top-tier stars while not giving the show a discernible identity, is that it will take away depth from the MAIN shows.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:00 PM   #45
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edge will win rumble cash it on chritsian for ecwchampionship at mania. At eliminaton chamber both raw & smackdown willl have matches to see who faces who at mania and if edge wins the belt he'll just will get drafted to raw or smackdown and christian to the other brand ......my guess
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Old 11-07-2009, 01:51 AM   #46
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Why is this not a DISCUSSION thread?
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:39 PM   #47
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