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Old 11-08-2009, 10:54 AM   #41
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Austin's potential was fully maximized. Hunter's was not.

The WWE capitalized on Austin's momentum. They capitalized on The Rock's momentum. The WWE did *not* capitalize on Triple H's momentum, Angle's momentum, Orton's momentum, RVD's momentum, Jericho's momentum, etc.

I am not debating whether these guys became big stars. Of course they did. I am just arguing that their potential was not maximized.....and that they could have, and should have, been SIGNIFICANTLY bigger.
Was Austin's heel character fully maximized? I think they could have done A LOT more with it.

Therefore, Austin must be on the list.
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:20 PM   #42
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Old 11-08-2009, 03:17 PM   #43
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Dustin Rhodes in his prime is another guy I think deserves as honorable mention or the wildcard vote here....afterall, he is the son of "The American Dream" Dusty Rhodes. Wrestling is in his blood and he has natrual talent/charisma when it comes to stepping between the ropes. It came to him naturally and he didn't have to work too hard to get known in this business.

When he first debuted Goldust, I totally marked. WWE could have done more with that character and it could have been such and over dark and demented heel gimmick where he could have been over as a main eventer just on his gimmick alone, instead WWE turned him and his gimmick into a sideshow circus attraction...anyone the Artist Formely Known as Goldust....OMG is all I could say to that at the time....

Dustin was never able to break out of the shadow of being the Dream's Kid in my opinion and given a true opportunity to stand on his own two feet with his own charisma and his own talent and given a chance to shine. But I did like him in the early to late 90's and the man can cut a sweet fucking promo.
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:57 PM   #44
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:08 PM   #45
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:06 AM   #46
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Teddy Hart. Dude could be a wwe player yet flounders in the indies.
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Listen guys. I don't care how you try to justify it, but Triple H belongs nowhere near a list like this.
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:06 AM   #50
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:08 AM   #51
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DDP's time was wasted anywhere he went.....WCW couldnt use him right either....but then again did WCW know how to use any wrestler right unless your name was Hogan, Nash, or you were a member of the NWO
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:28 PM   #52
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heymans list = retarded.
the missed christian push in 05 was the worst mistake ever,he cuda been the smart ass heel that the rock used to be and he woulda been huge
i love posts like hbpunk's one.dude you have 100+ posts on a wrestling site and then you complain about WWE's booking like your too cool to watch it.how fucking old are you,7?
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Old 11-11-2009, 03:20 PM   #53
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As far as recent guys I would have to go with Mr. Kennedy the moment they turned him face it was the beginning of the end as far as I concerned. Injury prone aside I think he was potentially the next heel Rock. I'm not a fan of TNA but I hope he is used properly over there and not a former WWE employee that becomes a jobber.

Always though Lo Down was an awesome tag team in their day before they had Tiger Ali Singh as their manager even though he was good is his own right. Think D'Lo could have even gotten a huge push own his own too espcecially after he became the first ever Euro-Continental Champion. Yes that's right Kurt Angle may have coined it first but in this case he gets the silver on this one.

Someone else that comes to mind and some of you may be suprised for me to mention is Charlie Haas. I know Shelton is another case but he still can't cut it on the mic and has had the opportunity. Apparently Vince never really particularly cared for the guy it show and I don't get it. To me him and Tyson Kidd are somewhat alike and he seems to already be doing well for himself.

If I had to pick one person right now that is being misused right now it's Evan Bourne but now that he has victories over Swagger and Miz maybe it's a sign of change.

Now in closing if there were even a few big men that weren't quite used properly and sometimes even in their prime. Scott Hall is the first guy that comes to mind especially when he went to WCW he should have had achieved more than he had. Sure I supposed his substance abuse issues might have made management leary about it but then why have him part of the biggest faction like ever?
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:19 AM   #54
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Whats with everybody saying Mr. Kennedy? All the guy ever had was saying his last name twice. Seriously, he was shit in the ring and in th emic, what potential are we talking about??
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:49 AM   #55
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Rikishi- I will maintain to this day that hit and run angle could've worked. But the WWF did 3 stupid things that fucked it all up. 1) Mega-heels don't wear thongs. I don't know why that's not common sense but apparently it isn't. 2) Rikishi has his big PPV fight with Stone Cold, and Austin beat the shit out of him to the point that other people have to intervene. How does that put Rikishi over? It makes him look like a bitch. Yeah Austin gets revenge, but Rikishi needed the momentum way more than Austin did. 3) Later on the same PPV, Rikishi comes out and tries to help The Rock, but ends up costing him the match. So now he's not just a bitch, he's a bumbling idiot who can't do anything right.

Big Show- Came into the WWF in 1999 with so much momentum and in great shape, and was easily the most intimidating looking wrestler the company has ever had. Surely he would be Stone Cold's greatest test. And then they turned him face... and then he joined the Union... and then he feuded with Bossman.
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:52 AM   #56
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:56 AM   #57
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People unfairly shit on that promo. It wasn't horrible. I've seen a lot worse. The problem was it was that the heel was a little too accurate with his complaints. Fans got confused.
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:57 AM   #58
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:19 AM   #59
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:48 AM   #60
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Whatever happened to Ahmed Johnson. I remember marking out for him when I was little, but then he just kind of went away after facing the Nation of Domination at Wrestlemania with the Legion of Doom.

Maybe I was too young, but did people just stop caring about him. I know the company was going for a different market (Austin turning face against Bret Hart), but he really just faded into obscurity.
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Kane as world champion....doesn't fit though....Austin was too over at the time...
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I agree with those who say Christian for the current generation of missed opportunities. The guy could have been on par with Edge right now if they had not blew off a possible Cena feud and wasted him on SmackDown.

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Old 11-13-2009, 06:18 PM   #66
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Kane as world champion....doesn't fit though....Austin was too over at the time...
I agree with you saying Austin was way over, but Foley held the belt a couple of different times in 1999 when Austin was on fire. I just think Kane would have been a more believeable champion than Foley, Kane has that unstoppable monster quality, especially back then. It could have been real big. WWE choosing Kane as the first guy to take the belt off of Austin in 1998 really says something, even if it was for only a day.
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I agree with you saying Austin was way over, but Foley held the belt a couple of different times in 1999 when Austin was on fire. I just think Kane would have been a more believeable champion than Foley, Kane has that unstoppable monster quality, especially back then. It could have been real big. WWE choosing Kane as the first guy to take the belt off of Austin in 1998 really says something, even if it was for only a day.
I think they had the right idea but for whatever reasons internally, decided to audible and give Austin the belt back, which was great and all, but completely slowed Kane's immense momentum at the time. Had Austin chased for an extended period of time I think Kanke would've been quite different from what he is now.
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Billy Gunn, end of story.
Sorry but he's an ass, man. I always thought he had the charisma of a fridge. Great in the new age outlaws but completely lost without them. Benoit beating him clean when Benoit was a heel at Armageddon 2000 was glorious.

RVD was made world champion too late in my opinion but Christian is obviously the right choice. He could have been and could still be a lot more than he is.
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