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View Poll Results: Who should be the next spiderman villain
The Chameleon 0 0%
Green Goblin 4 9.76%
The Kingpin 2 4.88%
Mysterio I 1 2.44%
The Prowler I 0 0%
The Rhino 1 2.44%
Tombstone 0 0%
The Vulture I 0 0%
Venom 24 58.54%
The Scorpion 4 9.76%
Other 5 12.20%
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Old 04-10-2004, 08:34 PM   #41
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Wow VENOM is killing. I never was real big on Venom. I like Carnage much better then him. But I think Venom will come next in Spidey 3.
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Old 04-10-2004, 08:36 PM   #42
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I remember he had a bunch of guys with him before like Rhino cameleon mysterio and Kurt angle (j/k)
You are probably referring to the Sinister Six. Man this is bringing back memories. I'm about to break out some comics I haven't read in years.
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I remember he had a bunch of guys with him before like Rhino cameleon mysterio and Kurt angle (j/k)
Well, he backed the Sinister Six before...
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Pwroler actually wasn't a villain for that long. He was a 70s stereotype (Ghetto kid on the wrong side of the law) with some gadgets to back it up.
In the cartoon he worked for kingpin.
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Is the sinister six the same as the Six Forgotten Warriors? and who are all of them?
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I'm not sure if they're the same thing, but I remember enough of the Sinister Six to tell you that there were members replaced , etc. The group that was in the TV Show were, Dr. Octopus, Mysterio, Rhino, Scorpion, Shocker and Chameleon. know the Vulture, Electro and Hob Goblin also got their shine in the group, too.
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I'm not sure if they're the same thing, but I remember enough of the Sinister Six to tell you that there were members replaced , etc. The group that was in the TV Show were, Dr. Octopus, Mysterio, Rhino, Scorpion, Shocker and Chameleon. know the Vulture, Electro and Hob Goblin also got their shine in the group, too.
Yeah...The SS and Degeneration X had one major thing in common...By the end, everybody and their mother had been a member.

The one name that sticks out to me that you didn't mention was Sandman.

A very confused man.

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In the cartoon he worked for kingpin.
In the cartoon, almost EVERYONE worked for the Kingpin.

While you're at it, why don't you start quoting how Parker used to room with Bobby Drake back in Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends?
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I think what may work is to introduce Spiderman with the symbiote, which he will use to defeat whatever villain he has to face in part 3. Then at the end he realises what it does to him, they break and the ending would be seening Brock as venom.
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As storylines go, I really like the Lizard/ Dr. Connors one the most. It involves both Parker and Spidey with alot of catch-22 situations within. Also, it keeps chronology pretty accurate as well. Anyways, it's the one I'd love to see next.
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As storylines go, I really like the Lizard/ Dr. Connors one the most. It involves both Parker and Spidey with alot of catch-22 situations within. Also, it keeps chronology pretty accurate as well. Anyways, it's the one I'd love to see next.
I dunno about the chronology bit, but then, I've kinda said fuck it chronology-wise.

I mean, Mary Jane wasn't the girl next door, Doc Ock was introduced before Goblin (I think), and Goblin definitely wasn't the first nemesis...
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They definetly should go with Venom but as someone said earlier, they need to buid him up a head of time. I would love it if we see Eddie Brock in Spider-man 2. It would be so cool if he appeared in the Daily Bugle with Peter and JJJ. Green Goblin 2 would also be cool and does look like they're building him up for # 3.

I hope # 3 will be a 3 hour movie so we can see both Green Goblin # 2 and Venom. Mam that would kick ass
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I dunno about the chronology bit, but then, I've kinda said fuck it chronology-wise.

I mean, Mary Jane wasn't the girl next door, Doc Ock was introduced before Goblin (I think), and Goblin definitely wasn't the first nemesis...
you're right. Green Goblin wasn't Spidey's first nemesis, it was Chameleon. But Double G was Spidey's first major villain who he fought through out the first 100 episodes of Amazing Spiderman
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In the comics, didn't Goblin also find out Spider-man's identity?
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Old 04-11-2004, 01:36 AM   #58
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you're right. Green Goblin wasn't Spidey's first nemesis, it was Chameleon. But Double G was Spidey's first major villain who he fought through out the first 100 episodes of Amazing Spiderman
You know, you're absolutely right...If you ignore half of the people introduced between ASM#1 and the first appearance of the Goblin...
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In the comics, didn't Goblin also find out Spider-man's identity?
Yup. Tho these days, it's not much of an accomplishment.
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If you've watched the trailer for 2 you'll probably notice Parker at one point gets fired from the Bugle. So I imagine at the very least Eddie Brock will probably have a cameo somewhere, though they might just reference him by name again (think about it, why would they be casting for a 3rd movie already - if Brock was to have a cameo they'd have to have already cast Venom to get him into the 2nd movie; I doubt that's happened)

No way never will there be a 3 hour studio summer blockbuster. They just don't happen. Fortunately Raimi is decent and recognises the need for balance between the 'Peter' side of things and the 'Spiderman' side of things, so that fills out a couple hours nicely. But 3 hours? Never happen.

I think some of you are shooting your load waaaaaaaaaay too quickly on this one. If they are gonna use Hobgoblin down the line (and I'm not sure if they would or not tbh - to average Joe Moviegoer he'd probably look like a cheap knockoff of the guy in the first movie, so why bother watching?) then he has to come before GG#2. Hell, Harry has to find out his Dad was GG#1 and go insane before GG#2. During all this Parker still doubts himself and even if he wants to be Spiderman.

Then, maybe, we can start to talk about Venom et al.
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I dunno about the chronology bit, but then, I've kinda said fuck it chronology-wise.

I mean, Mary Jane wasn't the girl next door, Doc Ock was introduced before Goblin (I think), and Goblin definitely wasn't the first nemesis...
Yep he faught a ton of guys before Goblin. Go here and see http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/titl...n_amazing.html

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If you've watched the trailer for 2 you'll probably notice Parker at one point gets fired from the Bugle. So I imagine at the very least Eddie Brock will probably have a cameo somewhere, though they might just reference him by name again (think about it, why would they be casting for a 3rd movie already - if Brock was to have a cameo they'd have to have already cast Venom to get him into the 2nd movie; I doubt that's happened)

No way never will there be a 3 hour studio summer blockbuster. They just don't happen. Fortunately Raimi is decent and recognises the need for balance between the 'Peter' side of things and the 'Spiderman' side of things, so that fills out a couple hours nicely. But 3 hours? Never happen.

I think some of you are shooting your load waaaaaaaaaay too quickly on this one. If they are gonna use Hobgoblin down the line (and I'm not sure if they would or not tbh - to average Joe Moviegoer he'd probably look like a cheap knockoff of the guy in the first movie, so why bother watching?) then he has to come before GG#2. Hell, Harry has to find out his Dad was GG#1 and go insane before GG#2. During all this Parker still doubts himself and even if he wants to be Spiderman.

Then, maybe, we can start to talk about Venom et al.
Eddie Brock could replace Peter at Bugle, so when Peter gets his job back, Brock has the reason to hate him

I don't think the movies will follow the comics exactly. If you've seen the trailer, then you've seen how Harry hires Doc Oc. I think he'll get tornmented by the Goblin's spirit in this one. Venom/Carnage could be #3, then Goblin #@ can be 4.
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If you've watched the trailer for 2 you'll probably notice Parker at one point gets fired from the Bugle. So I imagine at the very least Eddie Brock will probably have a cameo somewhere, though they might just reference him by name again (think about it, why would they be casting for a 3rd movie already - if Brock was to have a cameo they'd have to have already cast Venom to get him into the 2nd movie; I doubt that's happened)
In the comics he went to the Globe for more money, where he ended up rivalling with Eddie Brock.
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Yep he faught a ton of guys before Goblin. Go here and see http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/titl...n_amazing.html

I actually have that first Amazing Spiderman, Reprint Of course.
I have a couple reprint editions, but I also inherrited a large comic collection with some real beauts. No AF#15 or ASM#1, but I have PP:TSSM #1...



Anyways, that Link's awesome for proving what I was getting at, Thanks. A couple recurring bad guys, including DocOck's reccurring archnemesis status being secured by being not only the first one to legitimately defeat him, but to unmask him.

It'd be pretty cool if they worked his defeat into this storylin, especially with the whole brief cameo by Johnny Storm bit.
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Hmmm... Brock Lesnar as the man in the symbiote costume? I admit he's got the frame, but Brock can't act worth sh*t.

... Oh.... EDDIE Brock...

That said, Brock might make a good Rhino, who, I think, should be in the next movie just because he's a classic villain. He'd end up being more a secondary villian, though, since Rhino was a bruiser and not much else.

(Errrmmm.... Wait, now whe have Mysterio, Rhino, and Brock? Gahhh!!!)

As for the main villain, how about BIG WHEEL and ROCKET RACER:
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I think that Spiderman 3 should be about Spider-Man finding the symbiote and becoming the black Spiderman, then Eddie Brock finds it and becomes Venom. Spiderman 4 should then be called "Seperation Anxiety," and feature Carnage and his gang of symbiotes. I would love to see that.
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I dunno, that still sounds like a rushjob.

Though I must admit, I like the idea of Spider-Man and Venom being uneasy allies so quickly. It adds a little more notion of tension.

So here's the question--Who should he trounce as Black Spider-Man?
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Maybe not a few seconds, but definately sometime in the movie. I think the only reason he would get fired is because the writers want to add drama, and/or to add a new character to replace Peter there. Eddie Brock most likely.
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I dunno, that still sounds like a rushjob.

Though I must admit, I like the idea of Spider-Man and Venom being uneasy allies so quickly. It adds a little more notion of tension.

So here's the question--Who should he trounce as Black Spider-Man?
I think that Green Goblin 2 makes the most sense. Spider Man would have to go so far as to almost kill him or kill him. This allows him to realise what the symbiote is doing to him and break apart for the next movie.
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I think that Green Goblin 2 makes the most sense. Spider Man would have to go so far as to almost kill him or kill him. This allows him to realise what the symbiote is doing to him and break apart for the next movie.
Good call. He goes apeshit on his best friend.

Nice way to lead him to drive the symbiote away.
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All are good choices but I think that Venom would have to be it. It just doesnt seem that the other people were as great as Venom. They should of done Venom by now anyway.
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I want a Maximum Carnage movie therefore wed get Venom as well as Carnage.





oh and how in the Hell can you forget Carnage????? One of the toughest villians ever!!
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I can't believe that you didn't put in Carnage freakin idiot
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I personally don't think he forgot Carnage. I don't think the character of Carnage is enough to carry a movie. I think it would need the stability of Venom to do so. My guess is a Venom, then a Venom and Carnage movie.

I don't know why though, but I think Dr. Octopus and Carnage would make a good team.
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