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Old 01-12-2010, 02:18 PM   #41
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Yeah. Xero hit the nail on the head here.

Don't know what CenaFan is talking about with TNA having better writers though.
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:27 PM   #42
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I support and respect Cena, the man. I have for many years. I think he is awesome for PR, he's a great company guy, loves the business, great for fan interaction and is one of the hardest workers out there today in terms of his work load.

With that said, the years of him being shoved down our throats and shoehorned into the main event has run its course on me and many others. By booking Cena the way they did and never budging EXCEPT for the One Night Stand match (which was easily one of Cena's best matches) it completely killed his character for pretty much everyone but the kids.

His gimmick calls for him wrestle as he does. He can wrestle, we know this. He used to put on entertaining matches. But now it all follows a blue print to a fault. He gets beat down for twenty minutes, fires up and wins the match. It's pretty much the Hogan formula, only Cena gets beat on for longer because he has the stamina to do it.

In the end, I blame the inept writers and Vince McMahon for Cena's on-screen persona. Cena, the man, is a fine man and, given the right freedom coupled with the right direction, he could have easily been someone to lead the company into something big. Unfortunately, that ship may have sailed, at least for Cena as a face.
i agree, the way they made him jump from a thug to a army man made alot of ppl wonder what type of character he was. Im not an all out Cena fan but i respect him as a person but the way they have made him into the one nobody can beat for like 3-4 years besides this past year made alot of ppl dislike his character in WWE. Better writters is what they need and i wish it was not PG-13. I miss the attitude area that i grew up with. A cage match or Hell In A Cell is not the same without blood. The matches just dont have the same impact anymore.
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:30 PM   #43
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:01 PM   #44
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I support and respect Cena, the man. I have for many years. I think he is awesome for PR, he's a great company guy, loves the business, great for fan interaction and is one of the hardest workers out there today in terms of his work load.

With that said, the years of him being shoved down our throats and shoehorned into the main event has run its course on me and many others. By booking Cena the way they did and never budging EXCEPT for the One Night Stand match (which was easily one of Cena's best matches) it completely killed his character for pretty much everyone but the kids.

His gimmick calls for him wrestle as he does. He can wrestle, we know this. He used to put on entertaining matches. But now it all follows a blue print to a fault. He gets beat down for twenty minutes, fires up and wins the match. It's pretty much the Hogan formula, only Cena gets beat on for longer because he has the stamina to do it.

In the end, I blame the inept writers and Vince McMahon for Cena's on-screen persona. Cena, the man, is a fine man and, given the right freedom coupled with the right direction, he could have easily been someone to lead the company into something big. Unfortunately, that ship may have sailed, at least for Cena as a face.

I agree.. The WWE loves Cena because of the market that he draws. Also faces dont use alot of moves. I remember this site used to bash HHH for using only 3 moves..
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:06 PM   #45
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I didn't mind Cena that much, his promo's can be great and are usually at least good (even if it's just shouting) and his matches can be good with the right opponent.

But this thread makes me hate Cena. Fucking hate his wigger guts, the shit.

I'm reliabley informed by my girlfriend that the leave britney guy is a guy, a guy called Chris Crocker,
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:15 PM   #46
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I didn't mind Cena that much, his promo's can be great and are usually at least good (even if it's just shouting) and his matches can be good with the right opponent.

But this thread makes me hate Cena. Fucking hate his wigger guts, the shit.

I'm reliabley informed by my girlfriend that the leave britney guy is a guy, a guy called Chris Crocker,
WHAT? THAT'S A GUY?

I'VE HAD 12 WANKS OVER HER/HIM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:16 PM   #47
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I hate Batista do maybe we should creat som new bashing. Cena does deserve everythign he has right now and can do a whole match without botching.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:39 PM   #49
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I hate Batista do maybe we should creat som new bashing. Cena does deserve everythign he has right now and can do a whole match without botching.
Have at it. Xero would be all for it!
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:17 PM   #50
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you sir are gay for John Cena. Seriously get a life, John Cena is good at what he does but after a while you get tired of a guy being thrown in your face like wwe does Cena and seeing other guys get lost. yea its not his fault but he's the one there and i hate that he is there so i say how i feel about him being there..... get over it
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:33 PM   #51
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I've said this before about Cena, and it pretty much sums up my, and most of this forum's posters:

Cena: Respect the Man, Hate the Character.
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:45 PM   #52
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I gotta say I personally don't like Cena's character but like Xero said Cena the man is a great worker and I do respect him. On a side note since he lost the belt to Sheamus he's been a bit more tolerable.
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:46 PM   #53
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I hate Batista do maybe we should creat som new bashing. Cena does deserve everythign he has right now and can do a whole match without botching.
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:55 PM   #54
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Xero pretty much covered all the bases.To be fair Cena the man seems like a cool fun guy

and with WWEs current target being children I totally understand why is charcter is what it is.Bareing all that in mind I still hate to see him coming when I watch RAW
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:52 PM   #56
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I think Cena went to shit the moment they had Kurt Angle do and say everything short of burning a cross in the middle of the ring and declare that "I'm gonna kill every nigger in this state" to get over as a heel. They apparently didn't pay attention to the fact that Angle was getting cheered for more or less picking on Eugene. Who's gimmick was that he's a retard. Think about that: The Fans chose to cheer Angle over a fucking retard.

And all that retarded shit managed to, get this, NOT get Angle over as a heel. In fact it made fans hate Cena even more.

The fact that, when there were still casual fans that were older than 18 watching, the only guy that got the correct reaction against Cena was Edge, should say something. And the only reason this was so is because Edge was becoming the best heel in the business at this point.

5 years later, Cena is still at the top.

I have no issues with Cena, he's playing to who he knows are filling the seats right now. If he was simply an upper midcard face right now, he'd be booked about right. If he was a heel playing up the reactions, he'd be booked about right. But as of right now? shit no.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:05 PM   #57
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I hate Batista and have very little good to say about him.

He did a cute dance and had cool pyro. The end.
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:10 PM   #58
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Like 90% of us, I agree with Xero completely.
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Old 01-13-2010, 12:05 AM   #59
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Hang on a minute, TNA has good writers?
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Watching Cena "wrestle" is as entertaining as watching paint dry.
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Cena bashing got old in 2006.
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Really WWE has done some stupid shit but TNAs writing staff make WWE's writers look downright Orwellian
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He did a cute dance and had cool pyro. The end.
Meh, I'm kinda glad that he figured out how to be a baddie again for what's left of his career. Was gettin' real sick of seeing him twirl about the stage like a fucking ballerina and then go and do that ridiculous machine gun/pyro thing. Now, he's essentially the same as Kane, demeanor-wise: He goes down to the ring focused on the task at hand, looking for something to destroy, does it and leaves. It may have taken a while but ol' Dave actually rediscovered the K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid) forumula for how to conduct himself in the ring? And ya know what, it fits perfectly, too.
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Yeah, this is what I don't understand about the PG thing.
I know its becoming a bit of a running gag but I truly believe Vince has lost it. Or just never had it in the first place. I mean, he himself admits that Steve Austin was a fluke, not planned. In fact Austin was meant to be heel.

If they had the ability to pipe in the cheers and fade out the boo's back then, Austin would have been heel, and the attitude era may never have exploded as it did.

This is exactly whats happening with Cena, back then, if someone got cheered they rolled with it, if someone got boo'd they rolled with it. Nowadays they just keep rehashing stuff until they get what they want. As a result, the only people who are left are children, and the fans that remember the "good ole days" who are hooked on watching just for the occasional reference to the good shit from the past.

The Rock got boo'd too, but he was still as entertaining as hell. Heel Rock was just as funny, if not funnier than Face Rock. Just look at "The Hurricane" segments if you dont believe me.

Vince doesnt know what the people want, just what he wants, and I think if TNA can get their shit together, unless Vince steps down, WWE is screwed.

That does depend on TNA getting their together, and last monday was certainly not that.
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Is it worse than "The Worm" Diesel Mac? Is it?
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I agree but the People's Elbow has to be a close 2nd.
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I agree but the People's Elbow has to be a close 2nd.
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Old 01-13-2010, 03:06 PM   #74
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I'd call them all a dead heat.
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Peoples Elbow was awesome.

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Oh, and the "Leave Britney Alone" video was done by a guy who dresses as a girl. Just to clear that up.
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it's funny b/c the whole time I really thought it was a chick
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