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Old 03-17-2004, 10:45 AM   #761
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If I was him I would go now instead of being sacked and still haev some dignity.
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Old 03-17-2004, 10:46 AM   #762
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Also the Rio Ferdinand appeal is tomorrow,hopefully the F.A see sense and reduce the ban.

I'm not saying that because i want him at Euro 2004 as John Terry is a more than able replacement,just that if Titov gets 1 year for failing and Ferdinand 8 months yet he hasn't proved to have failed the test,it seems wrong.
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If we win tonight we go fourth but IF we win.
Its besides the point, if we win we go 4th, great, but how long will we stay there for? Why the hell are we 8th anyway? Now, Newcastle I can take being ahead of us, but Villa, Charlton and Birmingham? That's complete bollocks in my opinion (also having just checked we can only go 5th and to do that we have to win by 2 clear goals) things have gotta be changed

Also, what does everyone think about this Hitzfeld to Chelsea stuff, if its true then, Abramovich or Kenyon, whichever one is calling the shots, is an asshole.
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Old 03-17-2004, 10:53 AM   #764
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Its besides the point, if we win we go 4th, great, but how long will we stay there for? Why the hell are we 8th anyway? Now, Newcastle I can take being ahead of us, but Villa, Charlton and Birmingham? That's complete bollocks in my opinion (also having just checked we can only go 5th and to do that we have to win by 2 clear goals) things have gotta be changed

Also, what does everyone think about this Hitzfeld to Chelsea stuff, if its true then, Abramovich or Kenyon, whichever one is calling the shots, is an asshole.
I feel sorry for Ranieri. I know what you mean about Liverpool, it is bollocks, two seasons ago we were second and now this.
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Old 03-17-2004, 10:56 AM   #765
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Stop saying that.:foc:

I don't mean to be insulting but Wolves and Pompey shouldn't mind if they go down as much as Leicester fans for example.This being because this is both of their teams first premiership season and if i was a fan of either of those teams then just being in the premiership would be great,quite a lot of sides have came up before being relegated and then promoted again to do even better,for example Charlton,Bolton,Sunderland(before last year) and Leicester.

It would really be a backward step for Leicester to go back down,but then again O'Neill's success here may have set the expectation level too high.
Bollocks to that, look at what Birmingham have done. We should expect to stay up otherwise what's the point of being promoted?
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the odds werent that bad on Charlton finishing 4th last time i looked, if they're still that good i might put something on it.

Liverpool will win tonight we've beaten them twice and drawn with them once this season, we're yet to win away so i think our luck will just about run out this time.
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Also, what does everyone think about this Hitzfeld to Chelsea stuff, if its true then, Abramovich or Kenyon, whichever one is calling the shots, is an asshole.
It wouldn't totally surprise me but afaik Hitzfeld has said before he won't leave Bayern *shrug*

I don't really think he's that great of a coach anyway.
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Bollocks to that, look at what Birmingham have done. We should expect to stay up otherwise what's the point of being promoted?
I dunno about expecting to stay up, we should want to stay up i spose but the 3 promoted teams are always gonna be the favourites to go down. To be honest, I dont think we deserve to go down considering we've had some aweful luck and played some great football, but like ive said, if we do go down, i honestly wouldn't be TOO disapointed
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Ok maybe expecting is too strong a word but if we just come up and don't even give ourselves a chance with 10 games left what's the point? And like I said, look at what Birmingham have done, at one point last season it looked like they would be relegated, now they're pushing for Europe.
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It wouldn't totally surprise me but afaik Hitzfeld has said before he won't leave Bayern *shrug*

I don't really think he's that great of a coach anyway.
I just think its shite that they've just said "Fuck You" to Ranieri

Also, I hope Ferdinand's appeal keeps the verdict as it is. It would be harsh to increase the punishment as a retalitation to an appeal, but a reduction would show weakness in the FA and a weak stance on drugs, whether you've failed a test or refused to take one, its besides the point.
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Yeah I really like Ranieri - he's a great bloke and has been put under fantastic pressure in extraordinary circumstances. I'm hoping he gets at least one more season to prove himself but I fear not.

Also the FA shouldn't even think of lowering Ferdinand's ban. I've said this loads of times but i'll just say it once more - a missed test is a failed test.
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I just think its shite that they've just said "Fuck You" to Ranieri
I and the majority of Chelsea fans (far as I can tell) would agree with you.
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Old 03-17-2004, 03:05 PM   #773
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They should sack Houllier before the games started, he's starting Biscan instead of Henchoz.
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Old 03-17-2004, 03:07 PM   #774
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I know this is the Premiership thread but Coventry are 3 up against Preston within 11 minutes.
Lol.
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Old 03-17-2004, 03:14 PM   #775
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This is more like Owen
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Old 03-17-2004, 04:42 PM   #778
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About bloody time, shame it masks the fact that Houllier is shite
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About bloody time, shame it masks the fact that Houllier is shite
Exactly, no one in a sane state of mind would start the game with Biscan.
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I just think its shite that they've just said "Fuck You" to Ranieri
That's really shit that they're gonna go headhunting after one season under Abramovich. I know the pressure from the fans is huge, considering they basically tried to buy the title. But look at Arsenal, over the last 3-4 years, they've tinkered with the squad here, made a purchase there, and now seem unstoppable. It takes time.

Besides, where did Chelsea finish last year? 4th.

Where will they finish this year? 2nd.

How far have they gone in the Champions League this season? At least to the QF stage

How far did they go last year? What's that? They weren't even there?

Chelsea were out of the CL for how many years? 3-4? They've come straight back in and found the formula for winning on the continent, pretty much instantly. Arsene Wenger has taken at least 3-4 years to get it right for Arsenal.

They should take a long hard look at themselves if they're seriously contemplating sacking Ranieri.
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Old 03-17-2004, 07:17 PM   #781
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Kind I just say, its good that Owen proved me wrong, but to me the real test is doing it again regularly
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They should sack Houllier before the games started, he's starting Biscan instead of Henchoz.
OMG yes - Biscan is terrible. The other people on my floor at Uni tear their hair out whenever he plays.
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OMG yes - Biscan is terrible. The other people on my floor at Uni tear their hair out whenever he plays.
Having seen the teamsheet I was actually happy that they played Carragher at Right Back, and Riise at Left, ok, Biscan is shite, but if he has to play I would rather it was at centre back, than right back
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Yeah but what the hell is with shifting Henchoz to make way for Biscan?!?!

Henchoz Hyypia were class a few seasons ago. Biscan has sucked dick the entire time. I agree though that Caragher is better at right back and I've always been a Riise fan. Great going forward and just as good defensively as Traore (who is also shit). Sure his defensive play sucks sometimes but its passable.

Riise - Hyypia - Henchoz - Carragher.

Thats what I would go for anyway.
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Which is the same 4 every Liverpool fan would go for
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Ha...maybe Houllier doesn't like liverpool .
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I don't care which of those two dickheads, Kenyon and Abramovich, approached Hitzfield, they are boith trying to **** up the club.

I don't agree with alot of Ranieri's tactics, or signings, but I think that the best thing to do is to back him, and then see what transfers he makes in the summer, see where we are at Christmas time, and then make a decision.

If worst comes to worst we will come 3rd in the league, and quarter finals of the Champions League, I would have no problem with that. If we manage to come 4th in the league, then I still think Ranieri should be backed until Christmas.

But Kenyon and Abramovich are both dodgy cunts, and neither give a fuck about the rules for transfers, talking to players, or even the current set of staff.

Batesy and Hutchinson was a MUCH better partnership, the only thing Hutchinson ever did wrong was made a shit transfer behind Vialli's back. I have said this before, and I will say it again, the only advantage to Batesy not being there, is that Hoddle or Guillit MAY come back, but I doubt Kenyon and Abramovich want them.
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Riise - Hyypia - Henchoz - Carragher.

Thats what I would go for anyway.
You're forgeting Steve Finnan. He would be first choice in my Liverpool defence anyday.
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Hamann's goal was pretty good.

Owen needs to be more consistent scoring,like Sid said,atm he misses too many chances imo.

On a side note Real Madrid lost in the Spanish Cup final 3-2 to Zaragoza a.e.t,great match though.
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Bollocks to that, look at what Birmingham have done. We should expect to stay up otherwise what's the point of being promoted?
I know what you mean but i'm not saying you should give up trying or anything(though that would help ).

Sad thing is imo is that any team who goes down this year will be better than any current division 1 side looking to go up,unless those who do buy well in the summer.
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I know what you mean but i'm not saying you should give up trying or anything(though that would help ).

Sad thing is imo is that any team who goes down this year will be better than any current division 1 side looking to go up,unless those who do buy well in the summer.
Unless I'm very much mistaken Leicester Wolves *and* Pompey all have a lot of players who's contracts expire at the end of this season...whoever goes down is going to have a lot of rebuilding to do regardless.
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Old 03-18-2004, 01:56 PM   #796
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Ferdinand's ban got upheld
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Old 03-18-2004, 02:13 PM   #797
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I'm glad that was the outcome, if it had gone either way it would have been either be a little harsh or would make a mockery of the drugs testing precedures, well done to the FA for standing firm.
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He should have got the ban cut. 8 months for missing a test is absurd. Guys who are failing tests are getting shorter bans.

I thought they would let him come back for the last two weeks of the season and then have him ready for Euro 2004 since that's when it would actually benefit them.
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Its not about what would benefit the FA, its about laying down the law, a missed test is a failed test, thats is how these things work.
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Ok so how did that Man City player not get the same ban Rio did?

Why do players who fail tests get shorter bans?
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