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Keep your words sweet, it makes them easier to eat.
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#762 |
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Besides all the trade talk, who do you think will be MLB's next new break out stars?
Brandon McCarthy is a top candidate of course, but who else comes to mind? I think of Howie Kendrick in Anaheim. He played last season for about a quarter of a season, playing 1st base (not his position) he hit .285 or something. He should get proper playing time at his natural position next year, 2nd base. Who else?? |
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#763 |
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Nick Punto
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Dustin Pedroia
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#765 |
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I wouldn't go with McCarthy. The Sox just unloaded him after praising him for years, so maybe there's something wrong with him. Even if there isn't his numbers will be inflated in Arlington.
Howie Kendrick is a decent one but I don't know, the last couple of "big prospects" the Angels have had have disapointed. The obvious choice is Delmon Young. |
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Hanley Ramirez actaully
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#767 |
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Jason Kubel, realistically
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#768 |
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The Yankees and Diamondbacks might be working on a trade to get Unit sent back to Arizona. I'd love it if this went down. Johnson is good for a back of the rotation arm now (in the AL East anyway, he'd probably fare better in the NL), but he makes a lot more money than a 4th or 5th starter, not to mention how crappy his back is now.
We should unload him for prospects like we did with Sheffield. We need a first baseman, but I don't see Arizona parting with Connor Jackson or Chad Tracy. If we free up Johnson's salary we can go after Zito if we see fit, or Roger Clemens. I kind of like the idea of Clemens since he'd only sign on a year to year basis (and who the hell knows what kind of deal Zito is gonna get), which would give us room for Philip Hughes (or Humbeto Sanchez) to make his way into the rotation in a year or two. The way I see it, is either Pavano or Johnson are going. |
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#769 |
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Other breakout candidates:
Stephen Drew (Arizona) Chris Duncan (St. Louis) Alex Gordon (Kansas City) Matt Garza (Minnesota) Mike Pelfry (NYM) |
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We'll probably trade him for a reliever then. I don't know why, our bullpen is stacked, but Cashman seems to be obsessed with stockpiling relievers this offseason.
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Alex Gordon was the man at Nebraska, I remember him tearing it up a few years back at the College World Series
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According to his agent, Keith Foulke is close to a one-year deal with a mutual option with the Indians.
Angels agreed to terms with infielder Shea Hillenbrand, who had been with the Giants, to a one-year, $6.5 million contract with a vesting club option for 2008. --- Foulke probably won't pan out but he's a decent risk/reward pickup for the Indians, who desperately need a closer. I guess I was wrong about Hillenbrand to the Yankees. |
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#774 |
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Christ I hope the Yanks don't trade RJ. I have a bad feeling Zito would pick the Yanks over the Mets no matter what the offer even though Zito would obviously be better off on the Mets.
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#775 |
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Johnson is really close to a trade apparently.
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He knows Torre is gonna play one reliever every day til his arm falls off, so he's stacking up the bullpen.
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Am I the only one who thinks Zito won't be able to handle the "New York scene"
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#779 |
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oh man, Zito as a Yankee
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#780 |
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I actually think Zito would fit well in NY cause Damon is there. Those two were pretty close in Oakland.
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Zito's quirkiness, IMO, would fit in real good in NY. Come on Mets pick him up before the Yanks do... or Jays.
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Scott Boras is probably jerking off right now because it will probably come down to a bidding war between the Yankees and Mets.
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#783 |
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Personally, at first I was just saying it as a counterpoint for discussion, but Zito on the Rangers seems like the best fit, for Zito and the team, in my opinion. It just sucks for the A's that they just know they can't bring good players back. I don't get how the Twins have managed to keep Hunter, Radke, Santana, Stewart etc. all those years but the marquee A's players are never re-signed before they become overpriced.
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Court rules feds are entitled to baseball steroid testing data
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#785 |
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Yankees finally get Kei Igawa signed to 5 years, 20 million dollars.
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Who is the Boras like hockey agent? I always thought it was Boras himself, but I looked him up on Wikipedia and he seems to only be baseball. If it helps, I know the guy I am thinking of represents Marian Gaborik.
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#789 |
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Barry Zito to Giants On MLB.com ![]() ESPN is reporting the figures to be 8 years, $125 million ![]() Last edited by Evil Vito; 12-28-2006 at 11:29 AM. |
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#790 |
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shit. Out of all the Cali teams, he chooses the worst.
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#794 |
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Why the hell would anyone want to play for the Giants now?
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Zito has 126 million reasons to want to play in San Fransico [/T.O's publist answering for Zito]
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Breakout candidates:
Mike Pelfrey Ryan Shealy Rich Hill As a Metropolitan fan, my outlook on the Zito signing is this: Yeah, I definitely definitely wanted Zito here, yeah it would have been a great situation for him. But the Giants aren't a terrible place for him either. Well, except for the whole he's never going to win anything there thing. No one should be shocked. This is a typical Boras signing. Get your client the most money without any actual regard for whether or not the client will be happy where you put him. Barry will be happy with his 18 mil, but he won't be happy next year and the year after on a team that is probably at least 3 years from competing. And the longer Bonds stays, he makes it worse. As a fan, I do not want my team putting 126 mil into someone who pitches every 5th day. I could see if its and everyday player, but consider he's a pitcher which even though he's never missed a start makes him more injury prone than most. And the fact that I don't want that kind of money tied up into that type of pitcher who is more a solid number 2 than an ace. I too wanted him here, but not for that kind of money. and Personally, I probably wouldn't have wanted him here for 6 @ 100 either. So let the baby have its bottle and watch all parties involved be miserable in 2 years. |
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The Giants aren't even 3 years from competing. They're the oldest team in baseball and they have a crappy farm system and a crappy GM who can't compensate for the farm system. Also, they have to deal with Barry Bonds.
They aren't going to be any better because Zito and Jason Schmidt can basically be looked at as equals for the next few years. It's a step in the right direction for the Giants but they are still going to be terrible for the next few years unless they somehow make some huge acquisitions next offseason; even more than the Cubs did this offseason. |
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#798 |
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Good point made by Steve Phillips
After the Zito signing...be on the lookout for Carlos Zambrano to make $150 million or more next offseason Hell, then Johan Santana after 2008 may be the first player to ask for $30 million a year Last edited by Evil Vito; 12-28-2006 at 06:18 PM. |
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Wow, never would have expected that. It seems like a perfect signing for player and team though.
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I wouldn't call it a perfect signing, but Zito gets to stay in the Bay Area, which is what I assumed he wanted the whole time. He's a west coast surfer dude kind of guy, so he'll be comfortable there. Plus he's in the NL now in the shittiest division in baseball, so his numbers will most likely improve.
On the Flip side, the Giants are insane. Zito is not a #1 starter by no means anymore. I mean he'll be that on the Giants, but he's not even a top 10 pitcher out there. I Love Barry Zito, but I'm not going to pass him off as an elite player. That money is crazy, especially for a team struggling all over the place. They give all this money to one guy when they could build there team up at a few positions for that money. I dunno, we'll see in a couple years whether it was worth it. But I'm going to say no way. |
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