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**Y2Ant** · 10-05-2005, 01:51 PM

Erm, basically they have given Druids' talent trees a big makeover, changing the two end spells on Balance and Feral Combat, I think from Hurricane and whatever was on feral to Moonkin Form (gives fellow casters more spell dmg i think) and Leader of the Pack for Feral, and quite a few changes all throughout the trees, making all three viable to use. Hurricane is a normal spell available at level 40 now too . I'm not that knowledgeable on Druids though so you might wanna check it out for yourself.

Silithus is getting a makeover too, so it's not gonna be a waste of space anymore

4 Dragon elite raid bosses in 4 zones

You can now repurchase up to 12 items that you have sold to a vendor. There is now a buyback tab on all merchants that you can select to repurchase the last 12 items you sold since you last logged in. When your character leaves the game, this list of items will be cleared, so if you have accidentally sold something, don�t wait to buy it back. Buy it back immediately.

hot

er yeah a load of other little stuff too

**Silent** · 10-05-2005, 02:26 PM

Warlocks DOT's will last for less time but do the same damage, so basically it takes less time for a lock to kill something now.

Opening a level 10-19 Warsong Gulch.

**Crashnburn** · 10-05-2005, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent

Warlocks DOT's will last for less time but do the same damage, so basically it takes less time for a lock to kill something now.

Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of a Warlock?

Thank you both for responding I really appreciate it. Any changes to the Rogues or Hunters? Those are my two main chars. I know Hunters just got revamped last patch but was wondering if there was anything additional.

**Silent** · 10-05-2005, 05:38 PM

Hunters

* Counterattack - Now properly sets its cooldown.
* Throw - Use of this ability will no longer cause a global cooldown with all other abilities.
* Auto-shot is now cancelled when you die.
* Added Lightning Breath pet ability for Wind Serpents. This ability instantly hits a single target for Nature damage at medium range.

Rogues

* Vanish - Fixed a bug where the Chilled effect caused by Ice Armor/Frost Armor was not removed properly when vanishing.
* Parry - Minimum level to train this ability has been lowered to 12.
* Blade Flurry - This ability will now trigger correctly off of special attacks such as Sinister Strike and Kick.
* Shoot Bow/Crossbow/Gun - Fixed a bug where these abilities could be used faster than intended.
* Throw - Use of this ability will now only cause a cooldown with Shoot abilities.
* Ambush - Now uses normalized attack power.
* Backstab - Now uses normalized attack power.
* Riposte - Now properly sets its cooldown.
* Sinister Strike - Now uses normalized attack power.

**Crashnburn** · 10-06-2005, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent

Rogues

* Ambush - Now uses normalized attack power.
* Backstab - Now uses normalized attack power.
* Riposte - Now properly sets its cooldown.
* Sinister Strike - Now uses normalized attack power.

"normalized attack power"? Say what?

Anyways thank you once again, Silent. Gotta spread some rep.

**Y2Ant** · 10-06-2005, 01:34 PM

Instant Attacks
The mechanics of most instant melee attacks have been modified to improve item balance. Previously, instant melee attacks did damage based on the damage range of the weapon, plus a bonus for the player's attack power. This bonus was then multiplied by the speed of the weapon. As a result, slow weapons did more damage than was intended, and fast weapons were considered inferior by most players. We have changed the way the attack power bonus is calculated for instant attacks. This change does NOT affect attack power calculations for normal melee attacks. Instead of multiplying by the speed of the weapon, the attack power bonus is now multiplied by a fixed number pulled from the following table:

Two-handed weapons: 3.3
Daggers: 1.7
All other one-handed weapons: 2.4
As a direct result of this, many weapons have shifted position in their relative power. In particular, many Epic (purple) quality items are now more powerful than slower Superior (blue) weapons.
This change was not made to reduce the power of instant attacks, but to correct the relative imbalance of weapon itemization. At a given level requirement, epic quality weapons should always be more powerful than superior quality weapons.
Please also note that all normal weapon swings will be completely unaffected by this change. The following abilities are affected by the design change: Sinister Strike, Ambush, Backstab, Whirlwind, Mortal Strike, and Overpower.

**Crashnburn** · 10-06-2005, 01:50 PM

Thank you, Ant. Gotta spread some rep for you too.

**Silent** · 10-06-2005, 02:50 PM

That sounds cool, now my dagger rogue will own more I guess.

**Crashnburn** · 10-07-2005, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent

That sounds cool, now my dagger rogue will own more I guess.

I was thinking the same thing about mine.

**Silent** · 10-11-2005, 02:08 PM

1.8 out now, but I'm getting pretty damn bored of the game these days.

**LoDownM** · 10-11-2005, 04:32 PM

Fucking 1.8 Nerfs are here finally...More reason to to lvl my druid now!

**Silent** · 10-12-2005, 11:23 PM

2h weapons got reduced for warriors yeah?

**Favre4Ever** · 10-13-2005, 12:53 AM

Just got Arugals Robes from an Arugal drop, sweet.

**Silent** · 10-13-2005, 03:48 AM

Those are awesome for 20-mid30's for casters, what level/class are you?

**road doggy dogg** · 10-20-2005, 03:47 PM

wooo random TPWW posttttt... finally started going to MC again on Firetree, we killed Geddon and Shazzrah last night on our first attempts, pretty hot. was rofl too, killed geddon then got the 15:00 server restart ish so we're all like shit shit fuck shit, so we rushed our asses off and pulled/killed/looted shazzrah within 10 minutes on our first attempt. joke of a boss

**LoDownM** · 10-20-2005, 04:16 PM

I don't go on MC runs with my guild, I never play my warrior anymore, always on my druid nowadays. Also, doesn't help that I don't like half my guild

**road doggy dogg** · 10-20-2005, 04:58 PM

Yeah that's how I am on Firetree (and how I was on Archi). I hate most of the people in our guild so I left, now I'm in the smaller guild, Robots in Disguise, wiht Ant RBM and a few others

**Silent** · 10-20-2005, 05:19 PM

I fucking hate my server, some fucker said I was a ninja looter and now everyone believes it and I can't get an MC raid.

I wish those transfers would come out

**LoDownM** · 10-20-2005, 06:28 PM

If they would let Deathwingers tranfers to a diff server other then Stormscale, I would try and talk like 4 or 5 ppl into going with me in a heart beat.

**Ninti the Mad** · 10-23-2005, 06:48 PM

So, I started playing WoW.

It's good to know people who play so I got set up with some sweet gear, some gold, and a big guild who is helpful and nice.

looking good

**Silent** · 10-23-2005, 11:31 PM

What server are you on Ninti? Also what kind of character, what level, etc?

**Y2Ant** · 10-24-2005, 01:22 AM

did MC, killed golemagg

azuresong mageblade dropped but it went for 33 dkp so i had no chance

and 3 nightslayer pieces

I have 3 felheart pieces now BTW (helm/belt/gloves)

**Y2Ant** · 10-24-2005, 01:23 AM

so just majordomo and ragnaros are the bosses i havent fought, and im honored with hydraxian waterlords now

looks like about 10-15 of RiD guys are going to Displaced

ps when pay transfers are up we should all get on the same server

**Y2Ant** · 10-24-2005, 01:34 AM

**Silent** · 10-24-2005, 03:16 AM

LOL @ gif

Ant I agree, I will bring my 60 druid to whatever server you guys are on when they come out.. I wish they would come out soon, been waiting so long for the fuckin things..

**Ninti the Mad** · 10-24-2005, 12:06 PM

I am on Stormrage.

I just started on Friday and havent had that much time to play but I am level 15 about to level up to 16 orc hunter.

**Ninti the Mad** · 10-24-2005, 12:10 PM

lol gif @ breathe part

**Silent** · 10-24-2005, 02:53 PM

Oh cool, Hunter is fun. I'm levelling up a Night Elf hunter right now.

**LoDownM** · 10-24-2005, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y2Ant

LOL!!!!

**Crashnburn** · 10-26-2005, 05:57 PM

Hit level 30 last night.

**RBM** · 10-27-2005, 03:58 PM

Lol Tony got a 3 day ban last night for shouting in general chat in Ironforge that Americans were created when God had a bad case of the runs.

**road doggy dogg** · 10-27-2005, 06:36 PM

ahahah that was marvellous. Spending all night yelling in IF was probably more fun than I've had in a whlie in WoW. /h8 Firetree. Whenever transfers open up I'm definitely moving. Dunno where to though... Bacon wanted to move to so we might find a med-pop server or something. I dunno, I'm open to moving wherever anyone else I know is. Sucks that I left Archimonde to come to Firetree to play with friends who in all honesty don't really give a shit about me. (not you guys, more like Rhen and Finvarra and all them ) Sucks that I'm gonna miss Ony tonight, but w/eeeeee it was worth it. guild ftw.

**LoDownM** · 10-27-2005, 10:16 PM

lol!

**Y2Ant** · 10-28-2005, 02:47 PM

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/

OMFG

**Y2Ant** · 10-28-2005, 02:51 PM

Dude we should just get all us tpwwers on the same server, with me/tony/ryan/dust we've got like 5 level 60s (warlock/mage/druid/2 priests), silent with a 60 druid, lodownm with a 60 war, we could put together some pwn 5 man instance groups and shit, without any gay random people ninjaing stuff or whatever.

Ninti do you play with people you know on your server? If you are just soloing you should come roll alliance character on firetree, be nice to have another tpwwer to play with and I could help you out with shit if you want.

When the expansion comes out im gonna be more tempted to roll a blood elf than hit 70 on my lock

**LoDownM** · 10-28-2005, 07:45 PM

The expansion looks hot! I shoulda went to fucking Blizzcon

**Gonzo** · 10-28-2005, 08:03 PM

I love WoW and it is hella fun but I can never stay into it long enough to go past like level 35 with anything.

**road doggy dogg** · 10-28-2005, 10:00 PM

lol just found out this morning that this guy at work plays on Firetree as well. total fucking coincidence lolllllll

Soon as I'm unbanned I'm totally gonna hook him uppppp. I should probably pretend I give a shit about Displaced and get back in there for the time being, gotta impress teh noob with my mad MC lewt

**Crashnburn** · 10-29-2005, 02:43 PM

What the hell are the Blood Elves doing with the Horde?

Ok, first off the Blood Elves left the Alliance because they were being discriminated against including being imprisoned for being traitors because they socialized with the Naga. Understandable why they're not with the Alliance. But the Horde??? The Orcs have just left all their ties to demonic power behind them. The Taurens hate demons and the arcane and are helping the Orcs rediscover their Shamanistic roots. Trolls are borderline but Thrall trusts them. And the Forsaken are only part of the Horde because Thrall believes he can help "cure" them. None of the other tribal leaders wanted the Forsaken in the Horde but out of respect for Thrall they kept their mouths shut. Now the Blood Elves, who are addicted to Arcane/Demonic magic and represent everything the Orcs just left behind, are part of the Horde?

After the Frozen throne I was expecting the Blood Elves and the Naga to form their own faction and maybe team up with the Satyrs as well since they too are addicted to magic and are demonic followers. And that would of made a lot more sense to me.

**road doggy dogg** · 10-29-2005, 08:42 PM

I agree with everything you said, but the biggest plothole you failed to mention was that Trolls and Elves (ANY kind of elves really) are racial enemies. The entire reason that the Darkspear Trolls even allied with the Horde in the first place was because it gave them an opportunity to shed Elven blood. Which makes the whole Blood Elf thing even more stupid. I guess the Horde need their 'pretty' race though to lure some of the bnet kiddies over from Alliance to balance out the server pops though

10-29-2005, 02:43 PM	#839
Crashnburn R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero Posts: 690	What the hell are the Blood Elves doing with the Horde? Ok, first off the Blood Elves left the Alliance because they were being discriminated against including being imprisoned for being traitors because they socialized with the Naga. Understandable why they're not with the Alliance. But the Horde??? The Orcs have just left all their ties to demonic power behind them. The Taurens hate demons and the arcane and are helping the Orcs rediscover their Shamanistic roots. Trolls are borderline but Thrall trusts them. And the Forsaken are only part of the Horde because Thrall believes he can help "cure" them. None of the other tribal leaders wanted the Forsaken in the Horde but out of respect for Thrall they kept their mouths shut. Now the Blood Elves, who are addicted to Arcane/Demonic magic and represent everything the Orcs just left behind, are part of the Horde? After the Frozen throne I was expecting the Blood Elves and the Naga to form their own faction and maybe team up with the Satyrs as well since they too are addicted to magic and are demonic followers. And that would of made a lot more sense to me. Last edited by Crashnburn; 10-30-2005 at 10:09 AM.

10-05-2005, 01:51 PM	#801
Y2Ant Crows Before Hoes Posts: 24,501	Erm, basically they have given Druids' talent trees a big makeover, changing the two end spells on Balance and Feral Combat, I think from Hurricane and whatever was on feral to Moonkin Form (gives fellow casters more spell dmg i think) and Leader of the Pack for Feral, and quite a few changes all throughout the trees, making all three viable to use. Hurricane is a normal spell available at level 40 now too . I'm not that knowledgeable on Druids though so you might wanna check it out for yourself. Silithus is getting a makeover too, so it's not gonna be a waste of space anymore 4 Dragon elite raid bosses in 4 zones You can now repurchase up to 12 items that you have sold to a vendor. There is now a buyback tab on all merchants that you can select to repurchase the last 12 items you sold since you last logged in. When your character leaves the game, this list of items will be cleared, so if you have accidentally sold something, don�t wait to buy it back. Buy it back immediately. hot er yeah a load of other little stuff too

10-05-2005, 02:26 PM	#802
Silent Posts: 10,880	Warlocks DOT's will last for less time but do the same damage, so basically it takes less time for a lock to kill something now. Opening a level 10-19 Warsong Gulch.

10-05-2005, 05:38 PM	#804
Silent Posts: 10,880	Hunters * Counterattack - Now properly sets its cooldown. * Throw - Use of this ability will no longer cause a global cooldown with all other abilities. * Auto-shot is now cancelled when you die. * Added Lightning Breath pet ability for Wind Serpents. This ability instantly hits a single target for Nature damage at medium range. Rogues * Vanish - Fixed a bug where the Chilled effect caused by Ice Armor/Frost Armor was not removed properly when vanishing. * Parry - Minimum level to train this ability has been lowered to 12. * Blade Flurry - This ability will now trigger correctly off of special attacks such as Sinister Strike and Kick. * Shoot Bow/Crossbow/Gun - Fixed a bug where these abilities could be used faster than intended. * Throw - Use of this ability will now only cause a cooldown with Shoot abilities. * Ambush - Now uses normalized attack power. * Backstab - Now uses normalized attack power. * Riposte - Now properly sets its cooldown. * Sinister Strike - Now uses normalized attack power.

10-06-2005, 01:34 PM	#806
Y2Ant Crows Before Hoes Posts: 24,501	Instant Attacks The mechanics of most instant melee attacks have been modified to improve item balance. Previously, instant melee attacks did damage based on the damage range of the weapon, plus a bonus for the player's attack power. This bonus was then multiplied by the speed of the weapon. As a result, slow weapons did more damage than was intended, and fast weapons were considered inferior by most players. We have changed the way the attack power bonus is calculated for instant attacks. This change does NOT affect attack power calculations for normal melee attacks. Instead of multiplying by the speed of the weapon, the attack power bonus is now multiplied by a fixed number pulled from the following table: Two-handed weapons: 3.3 Daggers: 1.7 All other one-handed weapons: 2.4 As a direct result of this, many weapons have shifted position in their relative power. In particular, many Epic (purple) quality items are now more powerful than slower Superior (blue) weapons. This change was not made to reduce the power of instant attacks, but to correct the relative imbalance of weapon itemization. At a given level requirement, epic quality weapons should always be more powerful than superior quality weapons. Please also note that all normal weapon swings will be completely unaffected by this change. The following abilities are affected by the design change: Sinister Strike, Ambush, Backstab, Whirlwind, Mortal Strike, and Overpower.

10-06-2005, 01:50 PM	#807
Crashnburn R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero Posts: 690	Thank you, Ant. Gotta spread some rep for you too.

10-06-2005, 02:50 PM	#808
Silent Posts: 10,880	That sounds cool, now my dagger rogue will own more I guess.

10-11-2005, 02:08 PM	#810
Silent Posts: 10,880	1.8 out now, but I'm getting pretty damn bored of the game these days.

10-11-2005, 04:32 PM	#811
LoDownM Retired Prolly. Posts: 11,296	Fucking 1.8 Nerfs are here finally...More reason to to lvl my druid now!

10-12-2005, 11:23 PM	#812
Silent Posts: 10,880	2h weapons got reduced for warriors yeah?

10-13-2005, 12:53 AM	#813
Favre4Ever Incoming Text Posts: 2,646	Just got Arugals Robes from an Arugal drop, sweet.

10-13-2005, 03:48 AM	#814
Silent Posts: 10,880	Those are awesome for 20-mid30's for casters, what level/class are you?

10-20-2005, 03:47 PM	#815
road doggy dogg wekasauce Posts: 106,877	wooo random TPWW posttttt... finally started going to MC again on Firetree, we killed Geddon and Shazzrah last night on our first attempts, pretty hot. was rofl too, killed geddon then got the 15:00 server restart ish so we're all like shit shit fuck shit, so we rushed our asses off and pulled/killed/looted shazzrah within 10 minutes on our first attempt. joke of a boss

10-20-2005, 04:16 PM	#816
LoDownM Retired Prolly. Posts: 11,296	I don't go on MC runs with my guild, I never play my warrior anymore, always on my druid nowadays. Also, doesn't help that I don't like half my guild

10-20-2005, 04:58 PM	#817
road doggy dogg wekasauce Posts: 106,877	Yeah that's how I am on Firetree (and how I was on Archi). I hate most of the people in our guild so I left, now I'm in the smaller guild, Robots in Disguise, wiht Ant RBM and a few others

10-20-2005, 05:19 PM	#818
Silent Posts: 10,880	I fucking hate my server, some fucker said I was a ninja looter and now everyone believes it and I can't get an MC raid. I wish those transfers would come out

10-20-2005, 06:28 PM	#819
LoDownM Retired Prolly. Posts: 11,296	If they would let Deathwingers tranfers to a diff server other then Stormscale, I would try and talk like 4 or 5 ppl into going with me in a heart beat.

10-23-2005, 06:48 PM	#820
Ninti the Mad Mad as in crazy, dumbass Posts: 27,739	So, I started playing WoW. It's good to know people who play so I got set up with some sweet gear, some gold, and a big guild who is helpful and nice. looking good

10-23-2005, 11:31 PM	#821
Silent Posts: 10,880	What server are you on Ninti? Also what kind of character, what level, etc?

10-24-2005, 01:22 AM	#822
Y2Ant Crows Before Hoes Posts: 24,501	did MC, killed golemagg azuresong mageblade dropped but it went for 33 dkp so i had no chance and 3 nightslayer pieces I have 3 felheart pieces now BTW (helm/belt/gloves)

10-24-2005, 01:23 AM	#823
Y2Ant Crows Before Hoes Posts: 24,501	so just majordomo and ragnaros are the bosses i havent fought, and im honored with hydraxian waterlords now looks like about 10-15 of RiD guys are going to Displaced ps when pay transfers are up we should all get on the same server

10-24-2005, 01:34 AM	#824
Y2Ant Crows Before Hoes Posts: 24,501

10-24-2005, 03:16 AM	#825
Silent Posts: 10,880	LOL @ gif Ant I agree, I will bring my 60 druid to whatever server you guys are on when they come out.. I wish they would come out soon, been waiting so long for the fuckin things..

10-24-2005, 12:06 PM	#826
Ninti the Mad Mad as in crazy, dumbass Posts: 27,739	I am on Stormrage. I just started on Friday and havent had that much time to play but I am level 15 about to level up to 16 orc hunter.

10-24-2005, 12:10 PM	#827
Ninti the Mad Mad as in crazy, dumbass Posts: 27,739	lol gif @ breathe part

10-24-2005, 02:53 PM	#828
Silent Posts: 10,880	Oh cool, Hunter is fun. I'm levelling up a Night Elf hunter right now.

10-26-2005, 05:57 PM	#830
Crashnburn R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero Posts: 690	Hit level 30 last night.

10-27-2005, 03:58 PM	#831
RBM RoggaN Posts: 9,551	Lol Tony got a 3 day ban last night for shouting in general chat in Ironforge that Americans were created when God had a bad case of the runs.

10-27-2005, 06:36 PM	#832
road doggy dogg wekasauce Posts: 106,877	ahahah that was marvellous. Spending all night yelling in IF was probably more fun than I've had in a whlie in WoW. /h8 Firetree. Whenever transfers open up I'm definitely moving. Dunno where to though... Bacon wanted to move to so we might find a med-pop server or something. I dunno, I'm open to moving wherever anyone else I know is. Sucks that I left Archimonde to come to Firetree to play with friends who in all honesty don't really give a shit about me. (not you guys, more like Rhen and Finvarra and all them ) Sucks that I'm gonna miss Ony tonight, but w/eeeeee it was worth it. guild ftw.

10-27-2005, 10:16 PM	#833
LoDownM Retired Prolly. Posts: 11,296	lol!

10-28-2005, 02:47 PM	#834
Y2Ant Crows Before Hoes Posts: 24,501	http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/ OMFG