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Old 07-22-2006, 10:38 AM   #1
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Wow. According to Yahoo Sports, Reggie Bush is headed for a holdout and may skip the entire 2006 season He's even toyed with the idea of re-entering the draft in 2007.

What a fucking whiney penis. He demands to be paid more than Mario Williams, and he clearly can't accept that he wasn't the #1 pick. The NFL seriously needs to do something about rookie salaries. Make it so that you can only make just over league minimum first year to avoid these holdouts.

If Bush re-enters the 2007 draft I hope he falls down to the 3rd round just because he's pulling this shit.
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Old 07-22-2006, 07:09 PM   #2
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The NFL seriously needs to do something about rookie salaries. Make it so that you can only make just over league minimum first year to avoid these holdouts.
They'll just hold out so their contracts guarantee them big money in their second season.
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Old 07-22-2006, 08:30 PM   #3
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They'll just hold out so their contracts guarantee them big money in their second season.
Then make it like this:

-Implement a rookie salary (a fluctuating price range but rookies can make no more or less than that amount)

-As soon as you are drafted, you automatically receive a one-year contract from the team at a certain rookie salary (1st rounders will make the rookie maximum, 7th rounders rookie minimum, and everything in between)

-After the season, the team you were on automatically gets the rights to your. Once again, you can only get a one year contract for the next season, this time there would be a "2nd year salary" or something. It'd be higher than rookie salary, and the window fluctuates depending on the player's production in 2007. If you choose not to re-sign with the team, it won't matter because this rule will effect any 2nd year guy. Even if you go to a new team you can't make more than a certain amount as long as you are a 2nd year guy.

-Given the average NFL career length this process shouldn't last longer than 2-3 years, but it'd keep young guys from being greedy and it'll force them to prove they are worth the big bucks in the 3rd or 4th year (when they can then sign any contract they want, like the present FA market)

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Overall it's sorta like baseball's system. Obviously the players association would never allow this to happen but I think it would definately improve the game.
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Old 07-22-2006, 03:46 PM   #4
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Even though he is being greedy, Saints need to pay him. I don't really get why he is holding out for more money, I remember hearing a lot about how he has already donated a lot cash to the New Orleans community. I bet he just wants to be paid more than Mario Williams due to his ego, not the actual dollar difference
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Old 07-23-2006, 03:57 PM   #5
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Well, Ricky Williams broke his arm.

There goes my Canadian fantasy football team.
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:05 PM   #6
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Ty Law signs with the Kansas City Chokes.
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Old 07-25-2006, 01:14 AM   #7
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Old 07-23-2006, 06:12 PM   #8
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It is predicted that Bush will only miss a few days of training camp which start here in Jacktown this week.. This comes from the local paper with quotes from his agent..

Oh and Stima, for the record, the money he has "donated" to New Orleans is only because Fred McAffee made him promise 25% of all jersey sales to Katrina victoms.. That's why McAffee gave him number 25 (which he's had since high school)..
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Old 07-23-2006, 11:34 PM   #9
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Oh and Stima, for the record, the money he has "donated" to New Orleans is only because Fred McAffee made him promise 25% of all jersey sales to Katrina victoms.. That's why McAffee gave him number 25 (which he's had since high school)..
I dunno man, pretty sure he paid cash out of his pocket so a high school football stadium could be rebuilt and a large number of schools are gonna be using it.

I know he had to donate 25% cuz of that deal, but he was putting that idea out there anyways, saying if he got to wear #5 he'd do the same deal.
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Old 07-23-2006, 07:34 PM   #10
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I remember right after the draft Bush was only getting good press from New Orleans, and was saying that he didn't forsee himself holding out at all.
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Old 07-23-2006, 11:41 PM   #11
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Also I don't think anything needs to be done about rookie contracts, maybe just a cap on signing bonuses, I definetly wouldn't use the MLB system because the two sports are completely different. Rookies hardly ever go straight into the bigs in MLB, therefore you'd have guys like Reggie Bush selling tickets and he'd never get a cut of the money in the first year. Plus there is tons of other differences to go along with it. They really can't do much to change the current system they have now though. A lot of guys never even see the money they sign for anyways, due to restructures and releases. What you really need to look at is the signing bonus, since that is the only amount that is actaully given to the player no matter what happens.

Way too many risks in football to deny a big time player (like a Reggie Bush, Larry Fitzgerald etc) a big pay day til they are in their 3rd year.
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Old 07-24-2006, 05:50 PM   #12
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God, the Buffalo Bills have had one of the worst offseasons I have ever seen. There's no way that team wins more than three games this year.
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Old 07-24-2006, 05:53 PM   #13
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lol I can't believe they took Donte Whitner with the 8th pick. He is a pretty good player but they could have definetly done a trade (I'd say atleast 20 picks away) and still got him.
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:13 AM   #16
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Kansas City will be what they always are, a good team, not a real threat for the Championship though
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I wouldn't be too optimistic if I were you. Herm Edwards managed to change the Jets from a playoff team to a shambles (admittedly with a good deal of help from the front office)
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Old 07-25-2006, 11:39 AM   #20
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The AFC is going to be interesting this year, mainly because the 'big four' in that conference (New England, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Denver) don't have as much depth as they have had in previous years. I think there's going to be a team, maybe the Dolphins, maybe the Jaguars, maybe even the Chiefs, who come out of nowhere and dominate the conference this year.
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the Chiefs, who come out of nowhere and dominate the conference this year.
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Old 07-25-2006, 05:31 PM   #22
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I don't know, those torn ACLs can ruin careers.
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Crap he tore his ACL I thought it was his arm he hurt for some reason
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Well in the NBA you can be 6-7' weigh 185 pounds and bench press 185 4 times (Shaun Livingston) and still be good, where as in the NFL you can't really get by with those type of numbers.
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Old 07-25-2006, 11:29 PM   #28
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Well in the NBA you can be 6-7' weigh 185 pounds and bench press 185 4 times (Shaun Livingston) and still be good, where as in the NFL you can't really get by with those type of numbers.
Yeah I was going to say something like that.

In the NFL a huge part of success is being physically mature to handle the wear and tear of the business. Basketball is less physically demanding in some aspects, whereas in the NFL, you need to have that right "football build" before you should step on the field.
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:13 PM   #29
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lol Odell Thurman just got suspended for 4 games for breaking the NFL substance abuse policy. The Bengals are like the Portland Trailblazers of the NFL
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Old 07-26-2006, 09:10 PM   #30
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You know, the Vikings weren't quite good enough on defense last year, so they had to pick up fuckin' Dwight Smith, Tank Williams, Ben Leber, DeQuincey Scott, Chad Greenway and Cedric Griffin (is that the CB from Texas' name?),

Well, I just gotta say that with the pickup of Smith, the Viqueens actually have me a little happy for the coming season. I'll just turn it off when the offense has the ball.
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You know, the Vikings weren't quite good enough on defense last year, so they had to pick up fuckin' Dwight Smith, Tank Williams, Ben Leber, DeQuincey Scott, Chad Greenway and Cedric Griffin (is that the CB from Texas' name?),

Well, I just gotta say that with the pickup of Smith, the Viqueens actually have me a little happy for the coming season. I'll just turn it off when the offense has the ball.
No faith
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lol Odell Thurman just got suspended for 4 games for breaking the NFL substance abuse policy. The Bengals are like the Portland Trailblazers of the NFL
Didn't that happen a couple weeks ago? That's why they took that Ahmad Brooks kid in the supplemental draft.
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:50 PM   #34
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Didn't that happen a couple weeks ago? That's why they took that Ahmad Brooks kid in the supplemental draft.
lol Solid replacement, a guy who barely played in his last season because he got kicked off the Virgina football for bad conduct.
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Hey Diesel Mac, aren't you the one (of many) that hate the Cowboys? I could never understand why a Kansas City Chiefs fan would hate them, considering that if it wasn't for the Cowboys the Dallas Texans would have never moved to Kansas City.
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Hey Diesel Mac, aren't you the one (of many) that hate the Cowboys? I could never understand why a Kansas City Chiefs fan would hate them, considering that if it wasn't for the Cowboys the Dallas Texans would have never moved to Kansas City.
I hate all Texas teams. Because I spent a year in Texas and it was the worst year of my life.
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Fair enough.
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It was made official yesterday though.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:42 AM   #39
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:16 PM   #40
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The more I think about it, the more it pisses me off that the Saints goit rid of Smith.. He was one of the best D-Backs we had last year (next to the Predator).. All they said about it was he "didn't fit the scheme the new coaching staff is looking for"..

What, they don't like veterans who play hard every down??

Damn you Alphabean..
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