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Old 12-18-2010, 04:57 AM   #1
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Doesn't Greinke have Block Power over the Yankees as one of the teams?
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Phillies have completely gutted their farm system over the past two years. They have no one to trade.
They should just trade Cole Hamels for Zack Greinke, straight up.
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Dan Wheeler to the Red Sox - 1 year, $3 million plus a $3 million option.

Looks like the Red Sox are trying to buy their championship!!1!!
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Cubs sign Kerry Wood to a 1 year deal. "Kid K" is back!
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Doesn't Greinke have Block Power over the Yankees as one of the teams?

Yeah, but I heard he might change his mind


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Cubs sign Kerry Wood to a 1 year deal. "Kid K" is back!

So happy. He passed up double the money and double the years too.
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Don't talk to me about Cliff Lee giving up years and money, while he's still getting paid $24 Million a year.

Talk to me about Kerry Wood giving up years and money, while he's getting paid $1 Million for only one year.
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That was Lee's main goal this offseason in getting a contract that would get him as close to $25 million a year that he wanted. Next goal was to get a 6-7 year deal with 7 being the ideal number of years.

Yankees closet offer was $23.3 million but refused on giving him CC quality money and #1 spot while the Rangers varied around $22-$23 million with their multiple offers.
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Red Sox just got another player from the Devil Rays, Relief pitcher Dan Wheeler. Looks like it's a fire sale in Tampa. Back to the bottom of the ALE for them!
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Red Sox just got another player from the Devil Rays, Relief pitcher Dan Wheeler. Looks like it's a fire sale in Tampa. Back to the bottom of the ALE for them!
Who did the Red Sox give up for him?
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Who did the Red Sox give up for him?
None since he was a free agent but it looks like the Red Sox were willing to let Bill Hall go to the Astros instead of offering him a new deal (also a free agent).

It might be an even trade off in terms of money since Hall is getting $3 million from the Astros.

Red Sox do save some money since Hall was paid $8 million last season and save $5 million from letting him go for Wheeler.
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Too bad Hall was a great ult. guy last year. Really stepped up when Youk and Pedroia got hurt.

Only three million bucks? That's too bad I thought he could have cashed in a little bit more for the solid season he had. I think he pitched once during the season making him one of the only people in the MLB who have played every position except catcher.
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Sounds like the Brewers could be getting close to landing Zack Greinke.

The rumor making the rounds is Greinke, Yuniesky Betancourt, and about $2 million for Alcides Escobar, Lorenzo Cain, and Jeremy Jeffress
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Greinke AND Betancourt? Wow.
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Betancourt is awful.
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Kinda agree! Now, if it was Greinke AND Soria in a trade that's unbelievable.
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The Brewers' main focus this offseason should be going back to their old unis
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It's official... wowwwwwwwww

Brewers def have a shot in the NL Central now. Greinke/Gallardo/Marcum/Wolf is a pretty solid 1-4. Should be quite a slugfest between the Reds, Cards and Brewers now. I wonder if that means Prince won't be traded. Isn't he a free agent after this season? Maybe he has one more year. Or maybe they'll just trade Greinke and Fielder if they fall out of contention early and really rebuild. The prospects they gave up for Greinke weren't anything incredibly spectacular.

Marlins trying to trade Ricky Nolasco. Looks like the only other "big fish" (ah cha) on the market for the Yankees now. Dunno how much faith I'd have, big K guy but can't seem to get it figured out, which is weird because he doesn't really walk too many guys. Prone to the long ball though. Not sure how that would play at Yankee Stadium.
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Yankees haven't had much success with ex-Marlins pitchers either.
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So the Brew Crew gets Greinke. Why they needed Betancourt along for the ride boggles me.

NL Central is gonna be a warzone next year.
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Probably to match the salaries being swapped around since Brewers are also getting some cash in the deal.

The Rangers and Yankees must have been putting too many of their players on a no-touch list since it doesn't appear the Royals got the mega-deal they wanted from trading Greinke.
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I thought Betancourt was a top notch Defensive SS? Am I wrong? Surely it assists in his offensive shortcomings
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Watch Betancourt come out and have a decent year with the Brewers.
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Watch Betancourt come out and have a decent year with the Brewers.
He had a decent year last year with the Royals
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Right, but since everyone's all like "Betancourt sucks", it'd be nice if he came out and played well.
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Luis Vizcaino signed to a minor league deal. Scranton-Wilkes Barre is gonna be stacked this year...
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Austin Kearns goes back to Cleveland.

Rick Ankiel to the Nationals.

And, the Orix Buffaloes out of Japan Chan Ho Park. This will probably do it for his career.
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Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports noted some leftover tidbits from the Greinke deal, and here are a few of the highlights: The Yankees made a strong push for Greinke in July 2010, but the pitcher didn't want to leave the Royals then. The Royals liked a package of prospects the Blue Jays offered for Greinke, but he didn't want to play for Toronto. One rival executive said the Brewers' acquisition of Yuniesky Betancourt with Greinke "nullifies" the benefits of adding the ace.
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I speculate that Marcum (if he stays healthy) will have a better era and overall numbers than Grienke.
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If that's why the Jays didn't get Greinke, that would make sense, because the Jays were front runners right out of the gate this off season. I didn't think Greinke wouldn't want to play for T.O. The Jays are rebuilding themselves fast.
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He's medicated and all better now. Just ask him. *twitch*
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Brewers pitching vs. Cardinals hitting is the story to look out for in the NL Central
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Old 12-21-2010, 11:53 AM   #33
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Yup I can't wait till that epic Zack Greinke/David Freese showdown. Yovani Gallardo vs. Skip Schumaker? Yes please!

I'm kidding of course. We all know everyone will be waiting for that Brewers/Cardinals game when Milwaukee's pitchers go toe to toe with the reigning MVP. OH WAIT A MINUTE!
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Yup I can't wait till that epic Zack Greinke/David Freese showdown. Yovani Gallardo vs. Skip Schumaker? Yes please!

I'm kidding of course. We all know everyone will be waiting for that Brewers/Cardinals game when Milwaukee's pitchers go toe to toe with the reigning MVP. OH WAIT A MINUTE!

Ha. Well personally I don't see the Reds repeating, and Pirates and Astros and my Cubs will suck.

The middle of that Cardinals lineup, if Berkman can stay healthy, is pretty formidable.

And I was only talking about one division
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Cashman says he's operating under the assumption that Andy Pettitte will not return next season.

So right now, we're looking at a rotation of:

CC Sabathia
AJ Burnett
Phil Hughes
Ivan Nova
Sergio Mitre

*shivers*
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Cashman says he's operating under the assumption that Andy Pettitte will not return next season.

So right now, we're looking at a rotation of:

CC Sabathia
AJ Burnett
Phil Hughes
Ivan Nova
Sergio Mitre

*shivers*
I don't think "Mitre" I have heard it will be someone else like Brackman, Betances, or Noesi. I think those are 3 of the people Cashman are considering if I read his statement correctly.
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So right now, we're looking at a rotation of:

CC Sabathia
AJ Burnett
Phil Hughes
Ivan Nova
Sergio Mitre

*shivers*
Better hope that Offense carries your team
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Vasquez is looking pretty good right about now, huh?!
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Not after the season he had last year. They should be able to find someone to put up a 5.30 ERA. Hopefully.
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