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Old 12-17-2010, 06:17 AM   #841
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I don't see why that would make the Red Sox fans hate the Yankees as much as it would make them hate Johnny himself. Being a beloved player and jumping to your top rival is perfectly reasonable grounds to put the player on your shitlist (especially in Damon's case when he had said throughout that season that the Yanks weren't his kind of team). But the team can hardly be faulted for wanting to make their team better.

Much like Jeter, seeing Mo in a Red Sox uni would have been a total mindfuck. No doubt either man would become public enemy #1 and get booed mercilessly at the first game in New York. It'd all be forgiven once they retired, though.
You bring up a very valid point. Now that I think about it you're absolutely right. If Mo or Jeter did go to he Red Sox I don't think I'd hate the Red Sox anymore.

I might hate PLAYING the Red Sox cause they looked so good. I would most likely be very sad. I would also most likely be very angry with said player. And a bunch of questions would be going through my head like "Why the Fuck would Mo/Jeter do something like that?"
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Pedro Feliciano to the Yankees. 2 years, $8 million plus an option.

Farewell Pedro. It's been a great run but $4 million is a lot to pay a LOOGY who has logged 266 appearances over the past 3 seasons. Thanks for declining arbitration so the Mets can get a sandwich 1st round pick.

Could see the Mets grabbing Joe Beimel or something when camp opens up. Basically the same numbers but he can likely be had for around $1 million.
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I bet Feliciano will be happy to not have to pitch the middle innings every night.
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I do wonder how much Girardi will use Pedro. Dude is money against lefties. Think his workload won't be as heavy though once Marte comes back.
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I do wonder how much Girardi will use Pedro. Dude is money against lefties. Think his workload won't be as heavy though once Marte comes back.
Last I heard about Marte he might be missing the whole season.

Girardi will use him alot. He loves working matchups to the point where it gets a little crazy.
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Zack Greinke wants out of Kansas City for sure. He's gotta be going to New York.

But hey...watch out for the Phillies. I bet right now, his salary is low...and if they have prospects to trade, they could probably unload Hamels or Oswalt after this season to give Greinke good money
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Dayton Moore will likely ask for a king's ransom. However, if I were GM of a smart team, the smart team not being on Greinke's no-trade list and from a small market, I'd place a call. Rangers could probably work something out...

Phillies gotta be all but maxed out on the black amex by now. They're looking at $157 mil. going into 2011. They'll probably add a cheap bat or bullpen arm. But that's it.
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There were initial fears of the Royals mimicking what Toronto did by basically giving away 2 players for nothing but supposedly there is plans to ensure it won't happen.

Initial plan is to only accept teams Greinke approves to do offers and ask for players in spots the Royals need the most. At the same time, he's leaving the door open for other teams and allowing the demands to be flexible to prevent low-balling by big market teams.

Its a smart plan since Royals guaranteed either a few big names or enough middle-tier names to fill out depth and positions they wanted.
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Phillies have completely gutted their farm system over the past two years. They have no one to trade.
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Doesn't Greinke have Block Power over the Yankees as one of the teams?
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They should just trade Cole Hamels for Zack Greinke, straight up.
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Dan Wheeler to the Red Sox - 1 year, $3 million plus a $3 million option.

Looks like the Red Sox are trying to buy their championship!!1!!
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Cubs sign Kerry Wood to a 1 year deal. "Kid K" is back!
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Yeah, but I heard he might change his mind


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Cubs sign Kerry Wood to a 1 year deal. "Kid K" is back!

So happy. He passed up double the money and double the years too.
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Don't talk to me about Cliff Lee giving up years and money, while he's still getting paid $24 Million a year.

Talk to me about Kerry Wood giving up years and money, while he's getting paid $1 Million for only one year.
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That was Lee's main goal this offseason in getting a contract that would get him as close to $25 million a year that he wanted. Next goal was to get a 6-7 year deal with 7 being the ideal number of years.

Yankees closet offer was $23.3 million but refused on giving him CC quality money and #1 spot while the Rangers varied around $22-$23 million with their multiple offers.
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Red Sox just got another player from the Devil Rays, Relief pitcher Dan Wheeler. Looks like it's a fire sale in Tampa. Back to the bottom of the ALE for them!
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Red Sox just got another player from the Devil Rays, Relief pitcher Dan Wheeler. Looks like it's a fire sale in Tampa. Back to the bottom of the ALE for them!
Who did the Red Sox give up for him?
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Who did the Red Sox give up for him?
None since he was a free agent but it looks like the Red Sox were willing to let Bill Hall go to the Astros instead of offering him a new deal (also a free agent).

It might be an even trade off in terms of money since Hall is getting $3 million from the Astros.

Red Sox do save some money since Hall was paid $8 million last season and save $5 million from letting him go for Wheeler.
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Too bad Hall was a great ult. guy last year. Really stepped up when Youk and Pedroia got hurt.

Only three million bucks? That's too bad I thought he could have cashed in a little bit more for the solid season he had. I think he pitched once during the season making him one of the only people in the MLB who have played every position except catcher.
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Sounds like the Brewers could be getting close to landing Zack Greinke.

The rumor making the rounds is Greinke, Yuniesky Betancourt, and about $2 million for Alcides Escobar, Lorenzo Cain, and Jeremy Jeffress
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Greinke AND Betancourt? Wow.
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Betancourt is awful.
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The Brewers' main focus this offseason should be going back to their old unis
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Kinda agree! Now, if it was Greinke AND Soria in a trade that's unbelievable.
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It's official... wowwwwwwwww

Brewers def have a shot in the NL Central now. Greinke/Gallardo/Marcum/Wolf is a pretty solid 1-4. Should be quite a slugfest between the Reds, Cards and Brewers now. I wonder if that means Prince won't be traded. Isn't he a free agent after this season? Maybe he has one more year. Or maybe they'll just trade Greinke and Fielder if they fall out of contention early and really rebuild. The prospects they gave up for Greinke weren't anything incredibly spectacular.

Marlins trying to trade Ricky Nolasco. Looks like the only other "big fish" (ah cha) on the market for the Yankees now. Dunno how much faith I'd have, big K guy but can't seem to get it figured out, which is weird because he doesn't really walk too many guys. Prone to the long ball though. Not sure how that would play at Yankee Stadium.
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Yankees haven't had much success with ex-Marlins pitchers either.
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So the Brew Crew gets Greinke. Why they needed Betancourt along for the ride boggles me.

NL Central is gonna be a warzone next year.
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Probably to match the salaries being swapped around since Brewers are also getting some cash in the deal.

The Rangers and Yankees must have been putting too many of their players on a no-touch list since it doesn't appear the Royals got the mega-deal they wanted from trading Greinke.
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I thought Betancourt was a top notch Defensive SS? Am I wrong? Surely it assists in his offensive shortcomings
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Watch Betancourt come out and have a decent year with the Brewers.
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Watch Betancourt come out and have a decent year with the Brewers.
He had a decent year last year with the Royals
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Austin Kearns goes back to Cleveland.

Rick Ankiel to the Nationals.

And, the Orix Buffaloes out of Japan Chan Ho Park. This will probably do it for his career.
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Right, but since everyone's all like "Betancourt sucks", it'd be nice if he came out and played well.
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I speculate that Marcum (if he stays healthy) will have a better era and overall numbers than Grienke.
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If that's why the Jays didn't get Greinke, that would make sense, because the Jays were front runners right out of the gate this off season. I didn't think Greinke wouldn't want to play for T.O. The Jays are rebuilding themselves fast.
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I think Greinke probably didn't want to play in a big city, tbh. He has very severe social anxiety disorder
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He's medicated and all better now. Just ask him. *twitch*
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