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Old 07-26-2006, 10:57 PM   #841
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Hey Diesel Mac, aren't you the one (of many) that hate the Cowboys? I could never understand why a Kansas City Chiefs fan would hate them, considering that if it wasn't for the Cowboys the Dallas Texans would have never moved to Kansas City.
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:02 AM   #842
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You know, the Vikings weren't quite good enough on defense last year, so they had to pick up fuckin' Dwight Smith, Tank Williams, Ben Leber, DeQuincey Scott, Chad Greenway and Cedric Griffin (is that the CB from Texas' name?),

Well, I just gotta say that with the pickup of Smith, the Viqueens actually have me a little happy for the coming season. I'll just turn it off when the offense has the ball.
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Old 07-27-2006, 02:14 AM   #843
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Hey Diesel Mac, aren't you the one (of many) that hate the Cowboys? I could never understand why a Kansas City Chiefs fan would hate them, considering that if it wasn't for the Cowboys the Dallas Texans would have never moved to Kansas City.
I hate all Texas teams. Because I spent a year in Texas and it was the worst year of my life.
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:08 AM   #844
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Fair enough.
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Old 07-27-2006, 07:56 AM   #845
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lol Odell Thurman just got suspended for 4 games for breaking the NFL substance abuse policy. The Bengals are like the Portland Trailblazers of the NFL
Didn't that happen a couple weeks ago? That's why they took that Ahmad Brooks kid in the supplemental draft.
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Old 07-27-2006, 10:02 AM   #846
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It was made official yesterday though.
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Old 07-27-2006, 10:42 AM   #847
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No wonder Odell was a beast for me in fantasy last year.
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Old 07-27-2006, 01:16 PM   #848
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The more I think about it, the more it pisses me off that the Saints goit rid of Smith.. He was one of the best D-Backs we had last year (next to the Predator).. All they said about it was he "didn't fit the scheme the new coaching staff is looking for"..

What, they don't like veterans who play hard every down??

Damn you Alphabean..
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Old 07-27-2006, 01:50 PM   #849
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Didn't that happen a couple weeks ago? That's why they took that Ahmad Brooks kid in the supplemental draft.
lol Solid replacement, a guy who barely played in his last season because he got kicked off the Virgina football for bad conduct.
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:10 PM   #850
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Wooooooo, all Giants picks officially signed.

This is what Accorsi never gets credit for. Almost every year he gets all his picks signed before the start of training camp (an area a lot of teams struggle in)
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Old 07-27-2006, 06:17 PM   #852
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Old 07-27-2006, 07:19 PM   #853
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I'm ready for MATHIAS KIWANUKA to be an impact player this year and fill in at one of the positions that we struggled a lot with last year; Defensive End.
Admittedly, at first I disliked the pick because we are stacked at DE, but really it's a smart move. Strahan's confirmed he's probably gonna retire within 2 years, Osi had a huge year but who knows if he can keep it up, and Tuck can go either way. Kiwi will may even spell Strahan a few drives each game this year.
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Old 07-27-2006, 11:38 PM   #854
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Browns lose center Bentley for season

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/CLE/9574072

Wow, what a kick in the teeth to the Browns.
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Old 07-27-2006, 11:45 PM   #855
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Old 07-28-2006, 12:02 AM   #856
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Wow, Browns are really getting jewed by their draft picks in the past years.
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Old 07-28-2006, 03:43 AM   #858
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Nah, LeCharles Bentley wasn't drafted by the Browns, they signed him from New Orleans.
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No faith
No reason for faith. In the last two seasons, my three reasons for having faith in the Vikings were traded away.
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Old 07-28-2006, 07:27 AM   #861
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Young gets a bigger rookie contract than Williams. Reggie Bush will snap.
I doubt he has...he probably has comparable up front payments but from what I read previous Williams has huge incentives that will take his deal way past Young's reported figures if he hits them.
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Old 07-28-2006, 12:54 PM   #862
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I heard if they both get their full contracts (like all the incentives etc which is doubtful) Vince Young's contract will be more money than Williams's
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Willie Roaf retires from the Chiefs

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9575606

Well, there goes the best O-Line in the league
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Willie Roaf retires from the Chiefs

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9575606

Well, there goes the best O-Line in the league
Nice of him to make up his mind before free agency and the draft
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Old 07-28-2006, 06:11 PM   #867
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He was good but now I'm kinda glad we don't have him anymore..
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Holy shit. Vernon Davis' deal makes him the highest paid TE in the league
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Wow this rookie contract thing is getting ridiculous. People need to shut up
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Holy shit. Vernon Davis' deal makes him the highest paid TE in the league

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Rookie Contracts will end up putting the NFL on a strike in a couple of years.
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Nah the percentage of the profits shared with the players will be what ends up causing a strike...why would rookie contracts cause a strike?
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I mean i could be wrong, but think about this. There is no way in hell any rookie period should be paid more at there position then an established all pro player. Vernon Davis has no business being paid more then Antonio Gates or atleast 10 other tight ends in the league. This type of thing will continue to happen. Reggie Bush will probably end up being paid better then most of the top running backs in the league today. What I think this will do is make players start holding out for bigger and bigger contract extension. Teams wont be able to afford there star players cause rookies at the same position are getting paid more and they think they deserve more then a rookie. The collective bargaining agreement that the NFL has in place will be in shambles. Contracts extension will be bigger and bigger. More players will be switching teams then ever before. The league will take a stand and say " Hey this is nuts. Rookies are getting paid to much and because of that are 3 and 4 year players are getting paid WAY to mush " and you know the players union will be deadset against the league stopping this, because the players are making alot of money and they dont want that to be taken away. Which is why i can see a strike in the future.

I could be wrong. I'm not sure how the CBA is set up now, but its possible.
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Refresh me on the profit sharing issue again. I've heard something about that, but not really sure what it means.
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Basically the players want to make a cut of what the team makes, so whatever the team profits is divided among the players. I'm not sure on the exact percentage right now, I think its around 50%? I assume they take an average of what all the teams make or something, since some teams make more than others but they all have the same salary cap.

So when the next CBA comes up, the NFLPA is gonna be pushing for a larger percentage, while the owners obviously are not. So that is going to lead to a strike I think, the rookie contract thing really can't lead to a strike since there isn't a president for a rookies contract. It is not like a team HAS (like required by the CBA set by the owners/NFLPA) to pay huge money to guys and the rookie numbers are inflated anyways. Hardly any of these rookies will see the money which they signed for. What you need to look at is the signing bonus and the first year salary, since those are the only amounts which are guarented to go to the player. Rookies who aren't first rounders kinda get screwed tho, since they sign pretty low 5 year contracts, so if the rookie ends up being really good, the team has their rights for low money for those 5 years. If you end up sucking tho the team can just cut you with no problems, so you got guys like Deion Branch barely making 1 million dollars in his 5th year because of that.

The rookie contract thing isn't really that big of a deal, it happens every year, you got like 10 or so guys coming out and getting a huge signing bonus and thats that. Pretty sure with guys like Vernon Davis (or more likely their agents - I am sure every agent wants to be able to say they worked a rookie into getting the highest contract at their position) they just want to be called the highest paid tight end in the NFL, I highly doubt when the dust clears that he wil end up making more than somebody like Gates or Heap
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But in a sense they are beacause like you said. Gates contract dosnt guarantee him all that money. While a rookie like Davis is coming in with a quarter of Gates contract guaranteed and up front and alot of it guaranteed through the next 5 or so years. I say Gates, because he didnt get that huge Rookie contract like others have. He earned his money and he's the best TE in the league. So he should be mad when someone who hasnt played 1 year of football is making more money then him.

Teams are being forced to draft someone they can actually afford and not someone they really need but cant pay. See Houston. Reggie Bush wasnt drafted #1 cause Mario Williams was the better pick. Reggie bush wasnt drafted #1 because Mario Williams was a guy Houston could afford. Every year rookies salaries coming in are getting higher and higher. No team wants to pay a gu 50 mill and a 13 mil bonus up front when he hasnt done anything yet. Sooner or later these rookie salaries will need to be capped. Say for instance Reggie Bush gets a contract that makes him the highest paid RB in the league. And two years later he flops. Then you have lets say Tomlinson who his basically dominating his position and he says two years later " Hey my contract that i got like 3 years ago (?) isnt good enough. I should be paid more then this guy ( insert Reggie Bush's name and contract here ). How do owners argue against that? How does the owner of the Chargers say " Yah we know your the 3rd or 4th highest paid RB now behind a flopping Reggie Bush and two other rookie rbs that were recently drafted, but we arent going to give you that kind of money" They cant. They either have to pay or trade him or let him go in FA. Because Tomlinson has the best argument possible for being paid like the highest RB in the league. Its a trickle affect that i think only now is starting to be realised, but in a couple of years i think we could see 10-15 superstar all pro caliber players moving from team to team because of contract situations stemming from how big of contracts unproven players are being payed .

Maybe i'm looking to far into this.
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