MLB 2009 Season Thread - Page 22

**SammyG** · 06-10-2009, 02:45 AM

What is that, like 3 for the year?

**Big Fat Mike** · 06-10-2009, 12:42 PM

Im still saying that Ortiz is pretty much done career wise. Unless he gets to hit in front of jesus, he's not going to get many pitches to hit. And that meatball Burnett served up last night was right down the pipe.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 06-10-2009, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG

What is that, like 3 for the year?

Yeah but the last 2 have been pretty close together (although one of them was only like 310 feet down the line lol)

He has a 7 game hitting streak though, so that's a positive. Especially considering he went on streaks this year where he didn't get a single hit for like 7 or 8 games in a row

**screech** · 06-10-2009, 07:58 PM

Wang is off his game tonight.

And I am loving every minute of it.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 06-10-2009, 08:19 PM

So what are everyone's thoughts about the possibility of the Nationals losing 120+ games this year? They're currently on pace for 119 but they could get even worse once they start dumping players. Guzman and Dunn are both making $8 million this season so you figure one or both of them will be gone. Don't really know anything about their farm system

**The Gold Standard** · 06-10-2009, 08:23 PM

If Hughes can keep the Yankees in the game and bring them into the 6th or 7th, I think he should get Wangs rotation spot.

Why not try Wang in the pen for a while. For the short amount of time he was in the pen he was dominant. I know he has been a great starter for his career, but if he doesn't have it this year why not try a different role? Then get him back in the rotation next year.

**The Gold Standard** · 06-10-2009, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon

So what are everyone's thoughts about the possibility of the Nationals losing 120+ games this year? They're currently on pace for 119 but they could get even worse once they start dumping players. Guzman and Dunn are both making $8 million this season so you figure one or both of them will be gone. Don't really know anything about their farm system

Possibly, I don't think they will trade Dunn or Zimmerman (I know you didn't say him, but I brought him up anyway). They have young pitching and they are decent. No #1's but decent. I think they would really have to try to lose 120+. I don't see it happening.

**Evil Vito** · 06-10-2009, 08:35 PM

Wow this 1st base ump in the Phillies/Mets game is horrible. Terrible calls on both sides including one that ended a Mets rally and cost them a run. If they go on to lose by 1 or something I'll be pissed.

**Dragon** · 06-10-2009, 09:02 PM

The thing I'm most curious about with the Nats is if Adam Dunn can hit more HRs than the team wins games.

Dunn - 17
Nats - 15

**The Gold Standard** · 06-10-2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon

The thing I'm most curious about with the Nats is if Adam Dunn can hit more HRs than the team wins games.

Dunn - 17
Nats - 15

Haha That is awesome

**The Gold Standard** · 06-10-2009, 09:07 PM

PUT HUGHES BACK IN THE ROTATION!!

**Dragon** · 06-10-2009, 10:16 PM

Pretty puzzling move by Girardi. Swisher gets on so he brings in Gardner to pinch run. Instead of letting him try and steal he bunts him to second. At least let him steal and then bunt him over.

**The Gold Standard** · 06-10-2009, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon

Pretty puzzling move by Girardi. Swisher gets on so he brings in Gardner to pinch run. Instead of letting him try and steal he bunts him to second. At least let him steal and then bunt him over.

I couldn't agree more. I was saying the same thing when it happened.

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 06-10-2009, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22

Wow this 1st base ump in the Phillies/Mets game is horrible. Terrible calls on both sides including one that ended a Mets rally and cost them a run. If they go on to lose by 1 or something I'll be pissed.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 06-10-2009, 11:08 PM

Teixeria is gonna hit 60 home runs

**Dragon** · 06-10-2009, 11:18 PM

Yeah, I hate to think where the Yankees would be right now if Teixeira had actually ended up going to Boston.

**Evil Vito** · 06-10-2009, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon

Yep, awful.

**RatedGSuperstar** · 06-11-2009, 01:07 AM

I'm pretty sure the Rockies would win every division game if they played in the NL Central. Seven wins in a row now, with six of those coming against the Cardinals and Brewers.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 06-11-2009, 01:07 AM

I'm sure there has been guys on the Red Sox who have taken steroids but I don't care, this is still awesome. Haven't heard a crowd flat out chant "You do steroids" before

**Skippord** · 06-11-2009, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RatedGSuperstar

I'm pretty sure the Rockies would win every division game if they played in the NL Central. Seven wins in a row now, with six of those coming against the Cardinals and Brewers.

stupid Colorado being too far West

**SammyG** · 06-11-2009, 04:22 AM

lol that sounds like some WWE Chant

**ClockShot** · 06-11-2009, 07:39 AM

*sigh*

0-7 against Boston. What are the odds we actually win one this year?

**ClockShot** · 06-11-2009, 07:40 AM

Oh, and don't say Raul Ibanez takes "performance enhancing drugs". Or he'll come after you.

**Innovator** · 06-11-2009, 10:25 AM

It's June 11th and it's an October game for the Yankees. CC better show up tonight

**ClockShot** · 06-11-2009, 05:26 PM

Rangers sign Orlando Hernandez to a minor league deal.

**RoXer** · 06-11-2009, 07:14 PM

Are you a male who'd like to make $100 the sleazy way? Then I have a deal for you, but you have to act by June 25, 2009.

Of course, you'll have to cash in your basic moral decency to do it and incur the wrath of every woman in your life -- including your mom -- and feel worse about yourself than Sanjaya's barber. But we're talking $100!

Here's how to do it, but I wouldn't let the wife read this:

It so happens that on May 8, 2004, the Oakland A's had a Mother's Day promotion. There was a fight-breast-cancer 5K run before the game, free mammograms and the first 7,500 women through the gate got floppy plaid sun hats from Macy's. Nice day for the ladies.

Except that last part really hacked off a man named Alfred G. Rava. He was incensed that men weren't getting a floppy plaid sun hat for Mother's Day. He was so mad about it that he sued.

It gets worse. He has nearly won. A judge has given preliminary approval to a $510,000 settlement -- roughly half to lawyers and the rest to the "victims" -- the poor, downtrodden gender-disadvantaged waifs like Rava who didn't get their floppy Mother's Day hats. This is where you come in.

If you can prove you were one of the first 7,500 people there that day, you get $50 in cash, two-for-one A's tickets and a $25 Macy's coupon. It won't be hard. All you have to do is (A) state under oath that you are a male, (B) show some kind of receipt for your ticket and (C) swear you were there early. That's good enough. There's no video, and nobody's going to spend $5,000 deposing you over $100.

So how many guys have lined up to get their rightful floppy-hat-equivalent payment that was stolen from them by those selfish Mother's Day-manipulating women? "Well, I haven't taken a single call so far," said the 1-888 operator at the firm handling claims. "And I'm here just about every day."

A's fans are not just ignoring Rava in droves; they're pissed. "The entire settlement should be donated to the Breast Care Center at UCSF," says A's fan Ben Huber. "No good deed goes unpunished."

Isn't it good to know that most American males still have a spine? Save for (cough, cough) one.

Turns out Rava is a lawyer. In fact, this is not his first men-inism lawsuit. He's been part of more than 40 male anti-discrimination lawsuits, sometimes as the plaintiff, like in Oakland, and sometimes as the plaintiff's lawyer. He has sued Club Med over a ladies-only promotion. He's sued the Angels for giving away a $1.45 tote bag to women in 2005. He has sued restaurants and nightclubs and theater companies. Mr. Rava gets incensed a lot.

Oh, and he doesn't even work in Oakland. He works in San Diego. Gee, I wonder what a sue-happy lawyer from San Diego would be doing at an A's-Twins game the very day that they were holding a women-only giveaway? I called and asked.

But Rava wouldn't say.

"Season-ticket holder?" I asked.

Rava wouldn't say.

"You went to a game on Mother's Day, to a game that was promoting breast cancer awareness, and you felt victimized by not getting a floppy plaid sun hat?"

Rava insisted it was a fishing hat.

And he thinks the fact he didn't get one is offensive. Not just to him, he says, but to the state of California, "which has a very strong policy against discriminating on the basis of sex."

"Dude!"

"Look," Rava says, "if ESPN were giving away free autographed Nolan Ryan baseballs to men only on Father's Day, would that be fair?"

"These weren't autographed baseballs. They were women's sun hats. Plaid, floppy sun hats."

Rava: "Fishing hats."

I'm surprised he didn't want his free mammogram, too.

Personally, I find Mr. Rava as odorous as a bag of dyspeptic hamsters. He's a greasy manipulator who has found a small leak in American law and stuck an open wallet under it. When they wrote California's Unruh Civil Rights Act in 1959 -- the act Rava sues with -- they never thought soulless creatures like him would someday slink about the earth.

We are not a collection of legal briefs, appellate rulings and city ordinances. We are people. We are grandfathers and sisters and uncles and girlfriends, all woven into the fabric of this wonderful thing called sports. And if once in a while we want to do something nice for each other -- and not want anything for ourselves -- is that so wrong?

What are you going to do, sue?

Yes, Al Rava is going to sue and keep suing. What's next, Mr. Rava? Kids' Helmet Night? (Age discrimination!) Wheelchairs along the rail with a view? (Health discrimination!) Mullets Get in Free Day? (Clean-hair statutes!) Lawyers like Rava suck the fun out of everything.

What's amazing is that Rava's own mother died of breast cancer at age 53. How would she feel about his crass-action lawsuit?

"I am sure my mom would be proud of my lawsuit against this major league baseball franchise that denied male and female consumers under 18 years of age free fishing hats based on sex and age," he says.

Sun hats, tool.

**The Gold Standard** · 06-11-2009, 07:59 PM

Swish is an idiot

**Evil Vito** · 06-11-2009, 10:06 PM

Raul Ibanez is on something. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind about it. Just hit his 21st home run of the year in extra innings. He had 23 all of last year.

CBP is fucking tiny, but his home and away splits are similar. Pretty sure MLB drug policy still only has one required random test and after you take that, you don't need to take anymore. So once you take your test, you can theoretically do whatever the fuck you want.

God dammit.

**The Gold Standard** · 06-11-2009, 10:24 PM

I thought Ibanez was going to be good in that park, but not this good. This is just insane.

**Triple Naitch** · 06-11-2009, 10:35 PM

Anyone else fill out their all-star ballots yet?

American League

First Base:: Youkilis, K., BOS
Second Base:: Pedroia, D., BOS
Third Base:: Longoria, E., TB
Shortstop:: Ramirez, A., CWS
Catcher:: Mauer, J., MIN
Outfielder:: Bay, J., BOS
Outfielder:: Cruz, N., TEX
Outfielder:: Jones, A., BAL
Write-in:

National League

First Base:: Pujols, A., STL
Second Base:: Utley, C., PHI
Third Base:: Wright, D., NYM
Shortstop:: Ramirez, H., FLA
Catcher:: McCann, B., ATL
Outfielder:: Braun, R., MIL
Outfielder:: Iba�ez, R., PHI
Outfielder:: Upton, J., ARI

**Dragon** · 06-11-2009, 11:17 PM

Pretty brutal series but whatever. Much rather be 0-8 against the Sox and only 2 games back than be in the same position of years past and be digging ourselves out of a huge hole in the standings. Yanks have a winning record against every team besides Boston, so it really is only the Sox giving them fits.

Hopefully they beat up on some of these NL teams now.

**DaveWadding** · 06-12-2009, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch

National League

Outfielder:

Upton, J., ARI

**Big Fat Mike** · 06-12-2009, 12:30 AM

Fucking Yankees suck. So pissed off right now. Lost a bet because of Girardi leaving CC in for too long, and now I have to wear womens clothing. Awesome.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 06-12-2009, 12:36 AM

Jason Bay for MVP

**McLegend** · 06-12-2009, 12:51 AM

I love Raul Ibanez.

**SammyG** · 06-12-2009, 02:49 AM

I love the team with the best record in baseball.

**YOUR Hero** · 06-12-2009, 10:32 AM

Raul is awesome. I wish he got a deserving spotlight, not this nonsense.

**ClockShot** · 06-12-2009, 04:02 PM

0-8. Going to bed at the top of the 7th last night with a lead, I hope to wake up and see we went 1-7.

You think the master plan for the Yankees right now is kick ass across the country, but when it comes to Boston just roll over?

**ClockShot** · 06-12-2009, 08:07 PM

Fucking Joba.

Is he trying to be an instigator?

**Dragon** · 06-12-2009, 10:57 PM

LMAO. I love the Mets. Possibly the only team less clutch than the Yankees have been lately.

Men on 1st and 2nd with 2 outs, A-Rod up and he pops it up to second. Castillo then drops it and 2 runs score for the Yankees win.

06-11-2009, 10:35 PM	#870
Triple Naitch Formerly Fausto Carmona Posts: 16,875	Anyone else fill out their all-star ballots yet? American League First Base: Youkilis, K., BOS Second Base: Pedroia, D., BOS Third Base: Longoria, E., TB Shortstop: Ramirez, A., CWS Catcher: Mauer, J., MIN Outfielder: Bay, J., BOS Outfielder: Cruz, N., TEX Outfielder: Jones, A., BAL Write-in: National League First Base: Pujols, A., STL Second Base: Utley, C., PHI Third Base: Wright, D., NYM Shortstop: Ramirez, H., FLA Catcher: McCann, B., ATL Outfielder: Braun, R., MIL Outfielder: Iba�ez, R., PHI Outfielder: Upton, J., ARI

06-10-2009, 02:45 AM	#841
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	What is that, like 3 for the year?

06-10-2009, 12:42 PM	#842
Big Fat Mike Brad Vickers Posts: 5,380	Im still saying that Ortiz is pretty much done career wise. Unless he gets to hit in front of jesus, he's not going to get many pitches to hit. And that meatball Burnett served up last night was right down the pipe.

06-10-2009, 07:58 PM	#844
screech Shelly Martinez = Ratings Posts: 23,624	Wang is off his game tonight. And I am loving every minute of it.

06-10-2009, 08:19 PM	#845
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,760	So what are everyone's thoughts about the possibility of the Nationals losing 120+ games this year? They're currently on pace for 119 but they could get even worse once they start dumping players. Guzman and Dunn are both making $8 million this season so you figure one or both of them will be gone. Don't really know anything about their farm system

06-10-2009, 08:23 PM	#846
The Gold Standard Posts: 4,365	If Hughes can keep the Yankees in the game and bring them into the 6th or 7th, I think he should get Wangs rotation spot. Why not try Wang in the pen for a while. For the short amount of time he was in the pen he was dominant. I know he has been a great starter for his career, but if he doesn't have it this year why not try a different role? Then get him back in the rotation next year.

06-10-2009, 08:35 PM	#848
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,352	Wow this 1st base ump in the Phillies/Mets game is horrible. Terrible calls on both sides including one that ended a Mets rally and cost them a run. If they go on to lose by 1 or something I'll be pissed.

06-10-2009, 09:02 PM	#849
Dragon REALMENTE Posts: 11,271	The thing I'm most curious about with the Nats is if Adam Dunn can hit more HRs than the team wins games. Dunn - 17 Nats - 15

06-10-2009, 09:07 PM	#851
The Gold Standard Posts: 4,365	PUT HUGHES BACK IN THE ROTATION!!

06-10-2009, 10:16 PM	#852
Dragon REALMENTE Posts: 11,271	Pretty puzzling move by Girardi. Swisher gets on so he brings in Gardner to pinch run. Instead of letting him try and steal he bunts him to second. At least let him steal and then bunt him over.

06-10-2009, 11:08 PM	#855
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Teixeria is gonna hit 60 home runs

06-10-2009, 11:18 PM	#856
Dragon REALMENTE Posts: 11,271	Yeah, I hate to think where the Yankees would be right now if Teixeira had actually ended up going to Boston.

06-11-2009, 01:07 AM	#858
RatedGSuperstar Stupid Sexy Flanders Posts: 1,728	I'm pretty sure the Rockies would win every division game if they played in the NL Central. Seven wins in a row now, with six of those coming against the Cardinals and Brewers.

06-11-2009, 01:07 AM	#859
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I'm sure there has been guys on the Red Sox who have taken steroids but I don't care, this is still awesome. Haven't heard a crowd flat out chant "You do steroids" before

06-11-2009, 04:22 AM	#861
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	lol that sounds like some WWE Chant

06-11-2009, 07:39 AM	#862
ClockShot TPWW Fire Pro Champ Posts: 34,001	sigh 0-7 against Boston. What are the odds we actually win one this year?

06-11-2009, 07:40 AM	#863
ClockShot TPWW Fire Pro Champ Posts: 34,001	Oh, and don't say Raul Ibanez takes "performance enhancing drugs". Or he'll come after you.

06-11-2009, 10:25 AM	#864
Innovator Inno Knows. Posts: 43,710	It's June 11th and it's an October game for the Yankees. CC better show up tonight

06-11-2009, 05:26 PM	#865
ClockShot TPWW Fire Pro Champ Posts: 34,001	Rangers sign Orlando Hernandez to a minor league deal.

06-11-2009, 07:14 PM	#866
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	Are you a male who'd like to make $100 the sleazy way? Then I have a deal for you, but you have to act by June 25, 2009. Of course, you'll have to cash in your basic moral decency to do it and incur the wrath of every woman in your life -- including your mom -- and feel worse about yourself than Sanjaya's barber. But we're talking $100! Here's how to do it, but I wouldn't let the wife read this: It so happens that on May 8, 2004, the Oakland A's had a Mother's Day promotion. There was a fight-breast-cancer 5K run before the game, free mammograms and the first 7,500 women through the gate got floppy plaid sun hats from Macy's. Nice day for the ladies. Except that last part really hacked off a man named Alfred G. Rava. He was incensed that men weren't getting a floppy plaid sun hat for Mother's Day. He was so mad about it that he sued. It gets worse. He has nearly won. A judge has given preliminary approval to a $510,000 settlement -- roughly half to lawyers and the rest to the "victims" -- the poor, downtrodden gender-disadvantaged waifs like Rava who didn't get their floppy Mother's Day hats. This is where you come in. If you can prove you were one of the first 7,500 people there that day, you get $50 in cash, two-for-one A's tickets and a $25 Macy's coupon. It won't be hard. All you have to do is (A) state under oath that you are a male, (B) show some kind of receipt for your ticket and (C) swear you were there early. That's good enough. There's no video, and nobody's going to spend $5,000 deposing you over $100. So how many guys have lined up to get their rightful floppy-hat-equivalent payment that was stolen from them by those selfish Mother's Day-manipulating women? "Well, I haven't taken a single call so far," said the 1-888 operator at the firm handling claims. "And I'm here just about every day." A's fans are not just ignoring Rava in droves; they're pissed. "The entire settlement should be donated to the Breast Care Center at UCSF," says A's fan Ben Huber. "No good deed goes unpunished." Isn't it good to know that most American males still have a spine? Save for (cough, cough) one. Turns out Rava is a lawyer. In fact, this is not his first men-inism lawsuit. He's been part of more than 40 male anti-discrimination lawsuits, sometimes as the plaintiff, like in Oakland, and sometimes as the plaintiff's lawyer. He has sued Club Med over a ladies-only promotion. He's sued the Angels for giving away a $1.45 tote bag to women in 2005. He has sued restaurants and nightclubs and theater companies. Mr. Rava gets incensed a lot. Oh, and he doesn't even work in Oakland. He works in San Diego. Gee, I wonder what a sue-happy lawyer from San Diego would be doing at an A's-Twins game the very day that they were holding a women-only giveaway? I called and asked. But Rava wouldn't say. "Season-ticket holder?" I asked. Rava wouldn't say. "You went to a game on Mother's Day, to a game that was promoting breast cancer awareness, and you felt victimized by not getting a floppy plaid sun hat?" Rava insisted it was a fishing hat. And he thinks the fact he didn't get one is offensive. Not just to him, he says, but to the state of California, "which has a very strong policy against discriminating on the basis of sex." "Dude!" "Look," Rava says, "if ESPN were giving away free autographed Nolan Ryan baseballs to men only on Father's Day, would that be fair?" "These weren't autographed baseballs. They were women's sun hats. Plaid, floppy sun hats." Rava: "Fishing hats." I'm surprised he didn't want his free mammogram, too. Personally, I find Mr. Rava as odorous as a bag of dyspeptic hamsters. He's a greasy manipulator who has found a small leak in American law and stuck an open wallet under it. When they wrote California's Unruh Civil Rights Act in 1959 -- the act Rava sues with -- they never thought soulless creatures like him would someday slink about the earth. We are not a collection of legal briefs, appellate rulings and city ordinances. We are people. We are grandfathers and sisters and uncles and girlfriends, all woven into the fabric of this wonderful thing called sports. And if once in a while we want to do something nice for each other -- and not want anything for ourselves -- is that so wrong? What are you going to do, sue? Yes, Al Rava is going to sue and keep suing. What's next, Mr. Rava? Kids' Helmet Night? (Age discrimination!) Wheelchairs along the rail with a view? (Health discrimination!) Mullets Get in Free Day? (Clean-hair statutes!) Lawyers like Rava suck the fun out of everything. What's amazing is that Rava's own mother died of breast cancer at age 53. How would she feel about his crass-action lawsuit? "I am sure my mom would be proud of my lawsuit against this major league baseball franchise that denied male and female consumers under 18 years of age free fishing hats based on sex and age," he says. Sun hats, tool.

06-11-2009, 07:59 PM	#867
The Gold Standard Posts: 4,365	Swish is an idiot

06-11-2009, 10:06 PM	#868
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,352	Raul Ibanez is on something. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind about it. Just hit his 21st home run of the year in extra innings. He had 23 all of last year. CBP is fucking tiny, but his home and away splits are similar. Pretty sure MLB drug policy still only has one required random test and after you take that, you don't need to take anymore. So once you take your test, you can theoretically do whatever the fuck you want. God dammit.

06-11-2009, 10:24 PM	#869
The Gold Standard Posts: 4,365	I thought Ibanez was going to be good in that park, but not this good. This is just insane.

06-11-2009, 11:17 PM	#871
Dragon REALMENTE Posts: 11,271	Pretty brutal series but whatever. Much rather be 0-8 against the Sox and only 2 games back than be in the same position of years past and be digging ourselves out of a huge hole in the standings. Yanks have a winning record against every team besides Boston, so it really is only the Sox giving them fits. Hopefully they beat up on some of these NL teams now.

06-12-2009, 12:30 AM	#873
Big Fat Mike Brad Vickers Posts: 5,380	Fucking Yankees suck. So pissed off right now. Lost a bet because of Girardi leaving CC in for too long, and now I have to wear womens clothing. Awesome.

06-12-2009, 12:36 AM	#874
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Jason Bay for MVP

06-12-2009, 12:51 AM	#875
McLegend Temporary Posts: 15,605	I love Raul Ibanez.

06-12-2009, 02:49 AM	#876
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,764	I love the team with the best record in baseball.

06-12-2009, 10:32 AM	#877
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Raul is awesome. I wish he got a deserving spotlight, not this nonsense.

06-12-2009, 04:02 PM	#878
ClockShot TPWW Fire Pro Champ Posts: 34,001	0-8. Going to bed at the top of the 7th last night with a lead, I hope to wake up and see we went 1-7. You think the master plan for the Yankees right now is kick ass across the country, but when it comes to Boston just roll over?

06-12-2009, 08:07 PM	#879
ClockShot TPWW Fire Pro Champ Posts: 34,001	Fucking Joba. Is he trying to be an instigator?