Marvel vs Capcom 3 - ULTIMATE Rip-Off

[alvarado52]

Still pissed that we have dread locked Bionic Commando but dont have Venom, Carnage, Talbain, or Strider. I fuckin' loved Strider in MvC2

[Kalyx triaD]

Venom and Carnage has a lot of overlap. So does Strider and Dante. Talbain looks cool but I don't know how he plays so I can't say much about him.

If anything we'll see Venom before Carnage. I'd love to see the new Spec-Ops Venom but Eddie Venom would be awesome (I play with him). Strider's not happening since there's a third party to deal with and Capcom likes easier deals. At this point Talbain may have to wait for the Darkstalkers reboot if Ono gets his way.

[Drakul]

Originally Posted by alvarado52 Still pissed that we have dread locked Bionic Commando

I'd rather have had "RAD" Spencer from the original game/Rearmed than "gritty, sweary, angsty" Spencer from the reboot. Maybe he'll be an alt costume like he was in the reboot.

I don't like Strider. Mostly because I'm sick of male ninjas in fighting games. They all have to be the same super serious type that everyone finds "bad ass" for some reason and they all have that slam move I think is called a bushido *something*. They throw you in the air, leap up, grab you and drive you into the ground when you're both upside down. Strider has it, Guy has it in his Ultra, Hayabusa has it in DOA and I'm sure there are others.
It's not like they are basing these moves off of things people do in reality like they do with, say, wrestler characters. Ninjas in fiction are romanticized characters so they could have any elaborate move they want so why do they all have that bushido slam move and why are they all the same stern, serious "bad ass" character? I don't need a ninja clown or anything but a little variation would be good.

[Drakul]

Two quick bits of news. Firstly, Shacknews was able to get Capcom to confirm there are more characters to be announced and all will be revealed over the next couple of weeks.

Secondly, you unlock this when you complete the game with a character:

SPOILER: show

[Kalyx triaD]

That move is called the Izuna Drop. Vega, being a Spanish ninja bullfighter guy, uses it often. I call it the DBZ Drop, ever since Vegeta suffered it in the Namek saga. I love the move, it totally sells that your ass is owned. It's an elaborate german suplex where they both land vertically yet the guy doing the move is okay. Sometimes they spin sometimes not... There's a wicked version in the last Naruto UNS game by Rock Lee. Badass.

BlazeBlue has a ninja who toys with the role of 'ninja guy'. He's an over the top hero who even has theme music play when you activate a special of his. He seems to play up the stereotype well.

[alvarado52]

I just loved playing with strider in mvc2. Gonna have to find a replacement, eyeing Wesker.

[Blitz]

Yeah I needs me some Strider. Or another ninja. Capcom should throw a huge curveball and put some Street Fighter 1 characters in.

[Drakul]

Short clip of Mission Mode gameplay:

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[Drakul]

Originally Posted by Drakul Secondly, you unlock this when you complete the game with a character: SPOILER: show

And another of the same thing:

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[Drakul]

We're now entering spoiler territory. The end boss battle has been recorded and put up on YouTube, Eventhubs and so on. I've not watched it so I'm not going to post it.
You can bet it will be mentioned on any site that discuss MvC3 so watch out for people bringing it up in unrelated topics if you don't want anything spoiled.

[Blitz]

Here is the aforementioned video.

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[Fignuts]

So it leaked?

[Boomer]

Almost made a huge error and didn't choose release-day delivery from Amazon. Will be getting that and the new You Don't Know Jack on the same day. Gonna have to split my time accordingly.

[Kalyx triaD]

Video removed. No prob, I knew who the boss was for some time. I imagine prints will be 'online' in a week or so. Silly pirates, tricks are for kids.

I'm gonna have a nice two weeks waiting for the game to drop.

[Boomer]

Didn't have much of a problem finding a replacement video, and yeah that boss has already been rumored numerous times.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not gonna lie, menu seems bare bones.

Main Menu
- Offline Mode
- - Arcade
- - Versus
- - Mission
- - Training
- Online Mode
-- ???
- Gallery
- Options
- License (Icon settings) [L1/LB]

Has all the standard fighting game fixins. Would love to see what's in the online mode! Peep the default control set-up (XB360):

X - L. Attack
Y - M. Attack
B - H. Attack
A - Special Attack (Launcher, Air Tag Combo)
LB - Assist 1
RB - Assist 2
LT - Assist 1+2 (Team Supers)
RT - L+M+H Attack (Dash, Push Block, X-Factor (+A Button))
RSt - Nothing
LSt - Nothing (Interesting that you can set up the stick buttons)

This is the first time bindings were in a versus game last I remember (at least they weren't in MvC2). That's good since dashing is very important.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hulk's H. Attack xx Gamma Wave xx Meteor Super kills Phoenix outright.

[RoXer]

Hope you can assign dash to a stick click

[Kalyx triaD]

No reason not to. And that would be interesting.

[Khuntry]

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD Hulk's H. Attack xx Gamma Wave xx Meteor Super kills Phoenix outright.

yea fuckin crazy

[Kalyx triaD]

And hilarious. There's talk that a decent Ryu/Dante/Zero combo will also pretty much finish her. Best to keep her out until you have 5 bars then let her get killed on purpose. Or find some nice ways to use healing field.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD And hilarious. There's talk that a decent Ryu/Dante/Zero combo will also pretty much finish her. Best to keep her out until you have 5 bars then let her get killed on purpose. Or find some nice ways to use healing field.

Might as well embed it for those who haven't seen the hilarity in action:

[Kalyx triaD]

Face me-

HULK SMASH

[alvarado52]

How has nobody posted this? Anyway, here is the complete intro to MvC3

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[Kalyx triaD]

Wasn't posted? Strange. Good vid, too. I just know Cap's yelling Avengers Assemble! in the final shot.

[Kalyx triaD]

[Kalyx triaD]

ashstampede: Will the prima guide include frame data or more meat and potatos information for fighting game fans or will it just include basic Move list and beginning guide tips for X character. like the Street fighter 4 guide minus the frame data spread sheet in the back. Seth Killian: The MVC3 guide is one of the best I’ve ever seen. It’s got frame data, legitimate high-level strategies, a great overall breakdown of how the game systems work, traps, character specific tricks, assist advice, great combos (standard bread-and-butters, situational, trick-shots, etc.). We were able to get some extremely talented and smart players working on the guide, and I’ve been really impressed by the work they’ve done–I even learned a few new tricks from the guide myself. Fear4TheHero47: Will DLC characters have story modes, endings, and challenges/missions as well? Seth Killian:Yes, yes, and yes Taj: I was wondering if you could comment on how the game’s net code is? Is it an improvement over Super Street Fighter IV? Seth Killian: The MVC3 netcode was done by the same engineers that did Super SFIV. Of course I haven’t been able to play it “in the wild” yet while everyone else is online too, but the tests have all been solid, and there are some nice added touches like better algorithms to determine other players’ true connection quality and avoid slow connections, and of course “rage-quitter hell.” Natty: Do you think that MvC3 has a chance of being bigger than Super? For example judging by entrants at EVO Seth Killian: Considering how big MVC2 was even many years after its release, I definitely think MVC3 has a chance to be the biggest game in EVO history. Because the game is so easy to get into, but so thick with possibilities and tricks (just wait until you get into training mode–I always say that’s truly where people fall in love with MVC3), I might even be willing to bet on it. EspadaJerome: Will mvc3 have a endless battle like SSF4??? Seth Killian: Yes, you can use the player lobbies to create an endlessly rotating playlist of opponents. Vulcan786: How was the balancing decided? was it based on how powerfull each character is in his/her respective game/comic for example The devil trigger for Dante did you guys think “he was mad powerfull in the DMC games and we’ll make it just like that” and a similar thought process for other characters i.e. Arthurs Golden Armour or was it a different thought process? Seth Killian: The comics and backstory were used to decide move sets and some special powers, but not relative character strength. As a result, overall game balance was basically unrelated to those things, but I think that’s the right approach, because otherwise (for example) Chun Li would just have zero chance against the Hulk. We don’t start out with an idea about “so-and-so should be really powerful”–instead the job is to give everyone a fun set of tools that fit their character and backstory, and balancing begins from there. Aion: There seems to be so much effort put into this game; in terms of strats/tricks/team combinations/plethoras of moves etc and other little quirks…do you think much of the effort put into this game may be overshadowed/neglected due to 100% combo’s? Seth Killian: Not from what we’ve seen so far. You can of course kill anyone with enough meters and/or X-Factor, but obviously the match isn’t over after you kill just one character, and burning your X-Factor is one of the most critical decisions you’ll make in the entire match. So it’s easy to make any character look unbeatable if you just look at a part of the match, but spending all your juice for one 100% combo may not pay off long-term. Don Joff: Why do some characters need to be unlocked? With SSF4 I assumed Capcom understood that it is undesirable to be forced to unlock characters so it was removed. But why has it returned for MvC3? Seth Killian: The team understands the feelings of Western players, but also feel that Japanese fans generally enjoy unlocking. As a result, MVC3 strikes a balance between the different desires–there are still a few gameplay-affecting unlocks, but they are far easier to accomplish than they were in, say, original SFIV. You unlock characters, etc. by earning “points,” and you can get points for doing virtually everything. Playing online, in arcade mode, doing a combo in training, etc. Just as an example, a few arcade-mode playthroughs and a little time in training mode or mission mode would probably be enough to unlock all of the characters. My builds have everything unlocked already, but I think anyone should be able to unlock all the characters (although not all the fun side stuff, like titles, etc.) without much trouble in a single play-session over a few hours.

An interview with good questions? Hot damn.

[Fignuts]

Cool so every character has their own story and ending. Wasn't aware of that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Clarification... take a seat:

There is no story, just an arcade mode with a fairly epic boss battle. Every character has an ending (portrait and text, oldschool style). Unless the final game has something we're not seeing, this is all there is. Not even sure where the cool movies fit in (probably like the unlockable clips in the original SF4).

Would have liked for real-time cutscenes. Might as well put those great voice actors to work and set up cool scenes. In general the feature package is looking kinda shallow. This may be what it means for Capcom to be fully focused on gameplay rather than features. Keep in mind we haven't gotten any word on features, not so much as a trailer for them, this close to launch.

And there is no replay function. Even spectating in lobbies will be patched in the game post-launch. Thank Zod this is a kick-ass game, though.

[Kalyx triaD]

DLC characters, Jill Valentine and Shuma Gorath trailers tomorrow. I don't need to see anything, Jill is on my squad. I may pick up Wesker just for her.

[Khuntry]

Ugh

[Kalyx triaD]

S.T.A.R.S.

[Kalyx triaD]

Looks like Adon or Makoto's aerial axe kick. If it works like Makoto (or MvC2 Charlie)'s, LOVELY.

[Kalyx triaD]

No vids of Jill and Shuma yet, but Capcom did release this:



And they announced future DLC, Shadow Mode, where you fight AI that fights like the creators and even top players. Sounds interesting, though I don't know if I'd drop dollar for that. Capcom says this may drop in March.

Somebody claims to not only have a legit copy of the game, but hacked it and discovered that Frank West and Elektra are poised for DLC spots. He also claims the game has spots for more characters than that, and the game will end up with 46 characters in the end. Of course, we don't have to believe any of this.

Remember when MvC3 was supposed to drop in the Spring? When it got bumped up, I think that came at the cost of certain features. In time, I think MvC3's true feature set will trickle in as DLC (replay mode, shadow mode, maybe more). That's my guess, though.

Officially taking on Wesker as a point character. I will team him with Jill and X23. Wesker and his girls.

[Khuntry]

whatever

[alvarado52]

Its Capcom. That shit is all on the disc, and will be released as DLC keys for revenue.

Of course someone has a legit copy...im just waiting for their ass to put it online so i can get my hands dirty.

[Kalyx triaD]

The last few RE5 packs and the last costumes for SSF4 were legit downloads, so they're learning. But Jill and Shuma are certainly on disc. Frank West and Elektra most likely, Shadow Mode not at all. Need to drop those vids for Jill and Shuma already.

[alvarado52]

I dunno. I kinda feel that any DLC that is released within the month of the games release is already on disc, or was purposely cut back to make some money on. Not saying it s a bad strategy, and not complaining (mainly because im a dirty pirate), but its just one of those "things".

Que sera sera.

[Kalyx triaD]

[Crimson]

They should have a 1 on 1 option as well, I dont see why not putting in there doesn't make sense.