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Old 12-12-2012, 09:49 AM   #921
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Kevin Towers is fucking nuts for giving up Bauer.
what I've read is he was stubborn and found himself in the doghouse (petting Upton)
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:49 AM   #922
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so a move may have been in order
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Dickey gives another ultimatum-like message to the Mets to either get a extension done or he's walking after the next season. Mets gave a new offer but hint a trade might end up occurring very soon.
Dickey's asking price is still well below market value. I don't blame him at all for being pissed off.

At the same time, nobody is offering what the Mets want in trade. So I honestly see Dickey simply starting the year as a Met and then either being traded at the deadline (assuming they fall out of it) or leaving at the end of the year.
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Old 12-12-2012, 12:43 PM   #924
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Alderson actually was just quoted as saying that the bulk of the teams' offseason acquisitions are finished and that what they have now will probably be their Opening Day roster.

But Sandy...you haven't acquired anybody! They've made, like, 5 moves this offseason and all of them were for minor league depth.

I'm wondering if Alderson has any actual power in the Mets organization. It seems like he's just a talking head for the Wilpons. The only move he's made during his tenure was the Wheeler trade, which every GM in baseball would have done in the same position. Fans are hoping they'll make some big investments once Johan, Bay, etc. come off the books this year. But what about last offseason when Beltran, Perez, K-Rod, Castillo etc. came off the books? The Wilpons simply pocketed the extra money rather than spend it.

If Selig weren't friends with the Wilpons, he'd have forced him out by now just like he forced McCourt out of LA.
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what I've read is he was stubborn and found himself in the doghouse (petting Upton)
Trading Upton would have been a huge mistake for them.
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I also think the whole "dog house" thing with Upton is absurd. The guy is a legitimate stud. The Dbacks seeming obsession to deal him is mind boggling to me. I'd take Upton over anyone on the Padres.

With that said, I'm glad to see Towers got what he was looking for because now I don't have to watch Bauer carve through the Padres.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:00 PM   #927
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"The Mets, meanwhile, have mounting concerns whether all of Dickey’s off-the-field endeavors could impact his on-field results or his standing in the clubhouse if the perception is that he has become too absorbed with his new celebrity."

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...ming-ra-dickey

R.A. Dickey, you are clearly a terrible person for visiting sick children and climbing Mt. Kilimanjaro for sex trafficking awareness. Now sign the Mets' lowball offer or else!

Seriously, fuck this franchise.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:58 PM   #928
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Clubhouse Confidential estimated.Dickey could legit get $15-$16 mil a year. Mets should just pony up the dough. I doubt they what they're looking for in a trade.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:29 AM   #929
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Indians are going after Nick Swisher now that Shin-Soo Choo got traded.

I'll bet they overpay for him, big time.
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What would you consider as over paid? Swish does a little of everything, especially offensively. Solid average, draws walks, hits for power. $12-$15 mil seems reasonable to me.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:10 AM   #931
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Red flag on swish is his attitude. Got himself run out of Chicago and new York for pouting.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:14 AM   #932
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I've never heard of Swish having attitude. I couldn't care less about attitude. He's not getting paid to be a nice guy. He gets paid to hit, and he does that more than well enough.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:41 AM   #934
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Why is Ryan Dempster still unsigned?

Did I miss something about him being hurt or suddenly awful
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Swisher said he wants Jayson Werth money. Let's face it, he's a great guy, but he ain't worth that much.
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Did I miss something about him being hurt or suddenly awful
He wants 3 years. BoSox offered him 2/$25 mil. and he rejected it. They're still in talks last time I heard.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:06 AM   #937
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Neither is Werth. That's why he feels entitled to it.
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That's what happens when Scott Boras is your agent.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:50 AM   #939
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It makes sense for the Indians to go after Swisher since their first round pick is protected next year. I can't see a scenario in which Swisher is worth forfeiting a first round pick otherwise.
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would be funny if Boras' hardballing backfires and Swisher has to take a cheap 1 year deal like Madson had to do last year
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Edwin Jackson had to do the same, also.
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Boras is massively overrated. He gets plenty of megadeals for his clients, but he also screws a bunch of them over.
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Glad somebody else took Torres. The Mets were rumored to be considering bringing him back, which baffled me as he was nothing short of useless.

I hope Sandy takes his thumb out of his ass and gets an outfielder...because if the season started today, the Opening Day outfield would features Lucas Duda, Kirk Nieuwenhuis, and Mike Baxter. YEAHHHHHHHHHH WORLD SERIES WOOOOO!
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Just read that Ichiro turned down two years/$14 million from the Phillies.

Would have been cool to have him.
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Hilarious to read the comments on these updates from locals.

"We don't need another outfielder who has no power."

Had similar comments about the revere trade.

I guess that's the only way teams score runs.
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Offer Trumbo for Dickey. Offer Trumbo for Dickey. Please for the love of god Angels, offer Trumbo for Dickey.
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Angels have apparently already said Trumbo will not be moved.

All of the writers are now linking Dickey to Bourjos. Really? Bourjos? He's a great fielder...but he literally sucks at everything else. The Mets actually need to get back some sort of offense in a trade for Dickey.
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Angels have apparently already said Trumbo will not be moved.

All of the writers are now linking Dickey to Bourjos. Really? Bourjos? He's a great fielder...but he literally sucks at everything else. The Mets actually need to get back some sort of offense in a trade for Dickey.
Hes 38. On a short contract.

Hes not going to get you much of anything. Bourjos and a mid level prospect is about the best you can hope for.
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It's expected that any team acquiring Dickey would want an exclusive window to negotiate an extension. The Mets are trying to give him a 2 year extension and the buzz around baseball is that Dickey would get similar contract from any team in baseball. Because he's a knuckler, nobody really is afraid of locking him up through 2015. Even if he regresses a bit, he's expected to be durable.

But the Mets would be better served hammering out an extension and making Dickey a part of the long-term solution than selling him for a guy who, at best, would be a lateral move. They already have Captain Kirk in the Majors plus Matt dek Dekker in the minors who are exactly the same kind of player as Bourjos.
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