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Old 05-06-2010, 11:22 AM   #961
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If Frank is really dead, then who the hell else can fly the plane?
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Old 05-06-2010, 11:33 AM   #962
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Seth Norris aka Greg Grunberg aka Matthew Parkman of Heroes aka the pilot of the first plane aka the guy the MIB killed in the first episode.
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Old 05-06-2010, 11:34 AM   #963
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Seth Norris aka Greg Grunberg aka Matthew Parkman of Heroes aka the pilot of the first plane aka the guy the MIB killed in the first episode.
He's dead so how can a dead guy fly the plane? If that's the case just have Frank fly the plane anyways.
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Old 05-06-2010, 11:45 AM   #964
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MY 2ND choice would be Sayid cause he can pretty much figure it out based on his backround. But he's dead now.

Locke is dead right now too and he would be my 3rd choice.

Then I'd go to Jack, but he can't leave the island.

yea, they are fucked.
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Old 05-06-2010, 11:55 AM   #965
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He's dead so how can a dead guy fly the plane? If that's the case just have Frank fly the plane anyways.
IT was a joke, I didn't actually seriously suggest him. Although I bet MIB wishes he hadn't killed him straight away.

I don't even think they will get to use the plane or have it as a serious way of leaving/finishing the story.
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:20 PM   #966
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I just hope next weeks episode actually sort of explains what the smoke monster is, how it came to be and all that and don't just have somebody say something like "you will now be cursed with this monster living inside of you" or something.

Like in a similar fashion to how Jacob said he could make Richard ageless without actually explaining HOW he could do that.
I don't really get how this is possible. It's paranormal stuff. How would it be explained?
As long as they explain how he came to get those abilities, I could care less how those abilities work.
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Alternate Universe Locke will fly the plane.




Then crash.
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:54 PM   #968
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Are we even sure MIB wants to leave the island still? I'm assuming he still does, and just wanted them all dead so he could.
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:11 PM   #969
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He has said he wants to leave when he is in his true form, and to Jacob, where he would be at his most 'revealing', so I guess it is his overall plan still, although how I am unsure. I wonder why he doesn't just turn the wheel?
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I don't really get how this is possible. It's paranormal stuff. How would it be explained?
As long as they explain how he came to get those abilities, I could care less how those abilities work.
It is paranormal stuff but it would be good to see the source or find out where exactly they intend to base the whole mythology from. I get that its all a combination of supernatural, paranormal, metaphysical, science, religion etc but yeah, some kind of source of origin of such a power/place/purpose would be good.
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:18 PM   #971
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Then crash.
This is totally going to happen. Not he crash. But like Alt Lockes redemption to his father
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:23 PM   #972
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I think Hanso hit the nail on the head there. Alternate Locke will see current Locke and kill him then fly away with whoever's left alive. I'm guessing Sawyer, Kate, Hurley, Claire, and Ben. Everyone else will die I think.
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Ben is totally gonna die.

Probably saving everybody in a last minute full-fledged face turn.
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:51 PM   #974
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I think Hanso hit the nail on the head there. Alternate Locke will see current Locke and kill him then fly away with whoever's left alive. I'm guessing Sawyer, Kate, Hurley, Claire, and Ben. Everyone else will die I think.
I kind of really want a final scene where you get this and then as they are flying away we see every single major cast member who has died looking up at them and smiling as they fly away. I hope everyone gets that last send off.
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Hope you lot are not serious. That is a TERRIBLE possibility. Alt Locke killing MIB and flying everyone back home, jesus lol.
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:22 PM   #981
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My money is on Jacob being Alan Parrish and MiB being Van Pelt. This is all just Walts imagination running wild while playing Jumanji. You heard it here first.
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Hope you lot are not serious. That is a TERRIBLE possibility. Alt Locke killing MIB and flying everyone back home, jesus lol.
He flies them home on his back.
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Actually Kano, I could see Desmond being the one to end it all. That or MIB gets everyone killed off but Jack and the series ends with Jack and MIB sitting on the beach starting everything all over again.
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Actually Kano, I could see Desmond being the one to end it all. That or MIB gets everyone killed off but Jack and the series ends with Jack and MIB sitting on the beach starting everything all over again.
Jack and Sawyer as the new Jacob and MiB. They have set Sawyer up perfectly for this....

1) Sawyer crashes onto the island along with 815ers
2) His raft explodes
3) His helicopter is leaking fuel and he has to jump off
4) His plan to get people off the island results in killing Sayid, Jin, Sun, and Frank
5) When he finally found a home on the island (in DHARMA), Juliet ends up dying and he gets transported to 2007.

I think more than almost anyone, the Island has been pretty shitty to Sawyer, no matter how hard he tries.

On top of it, his biggest advesary throughout the whole show Jack, is now trying to keep him from leaving the island.

It would be pretty awesome to see Locke fly everyone home on his back like that dog from Neverending Tale
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:45 PM   #986
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But at more than one point Sawyer didn't care or he wanted to stay.

He got on the raft because he supposedly wanted to either be a hero or die, and he said himself he is no hero. Yet from Season 4 onwards he has grown and proven time and time again he is a hero.

He only really wants to leave because of Juliet and the pain he feels. I'm sure if he knew and realised as much as Jack and Locke did, he would stay.
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:46 PM   #987
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Actually Kano, I could see Desmond being the one to end it all. That or MIB gets everyone killed off but Jack and the series ends with Jack and MIB sitting on the beach starting everything all over again.
Probably won't find it in this thread, but surely another, but ever since Flashes Before Your Eyes, season 3, I have said and always thought Desmond was/is the key to solving and finishing the story/task. But then everyone has their part and significance to the story.
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I think the flaming arrows were Widmore and his people, didnt he hear Sawyer say everyone meet at the creek?
If he can launch mortar strikes at them whys he wasting time with arrows
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So who exactly is MIB allowed to kill and not kill, is it just candidates he isn't allowed kill or what?
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If he can launch mortar strikes at them whys he wasting time with arrows
He means in the 50's when Widmore was there with Elouise and Richard. Still they had guns then so I doubt it.

And I think he shouted to meet at the creek at a different point but I could be wrong.
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So who exactly is MIB allowed to kill and not kill, is it just candidates he isn't allowed kill or what?
It seems as though he cannot kill them by himself alone, rather through means of deception and courses of coincidence and choices of those people.

But then he is now on a war path intend on finishing what he started, so I don't know how he is going to go about that.

I think he has already broken the rules anyway.
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He means in the 50's when Widmore was there with Elouise and Richard. Still they had guns then so I doubt it.

And I think he shouted to meet at the creek at a different point but I could be wrong.
According to Lostpedia, the arrow attack happend in 1954. I was always under the impression that it was ancient times, and the arrows were coming from the civilization.
I guess it was The Others though, if that information is correct. 1954 was the time period with Jughead.
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Still, we know there was an ancient group of people.

Fuckin idiots using flaming arrows if they had guns. The Others were prob on a budget.
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It seems as though he cannot kill them by himself alone, rather through means of deception and courses of coincidence and choices of those people.

But then he is now on a war path intend on finishing what he started, so I don't know how he is going to go about that.

I think he has already broken the rules anyway.
Surely hes killed loads of people on his own in his smokey form?
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Or do you mean he can't kill candidates alone?
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Yeah he can't flat out murder of kill a candidate of his own power and being. He has to rather trick them, put them in a situation where people's true fears, faiths and nature come to surface, and because he believes every man's very nature is to sin and corrupt, he bases his plans and methods of elimination on the people to make it actually happen. Or he manipulates them in the form of people they know who have died, as we are fully aware of. The bastard.

And yeah, he's killed tons of people in his true form.
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Yeah he can't flat out murder of kill a candidate of his own power and being. He has to rather trick them, put them in a situation where people's true fears, faiths and nature come to surface, and because he believes every man's very nature is to sin and corrupt, he bases his plans and methods of elimination on the people to make it actually happen. Or he manipulates them in the form of people they know who have died, as we are fully aware of. The bastard.

And yeah, he's killed tons of people in his true form.
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Yep

He died with honour, integrity, courage and a really cool inscribed Jesus stick.
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If this doesn't end with Jack as the new Jacob I will be very surprised.
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I know I'm owed a fiver (British slang for five English pounds) from a mate who only watched season one where he met Locke's character was gonna turn out to be a creepy pervert who would commit at least one rape on the show.
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