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Old 07-01-2006, 02:48 PM   #1001
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Old 07-01-2006, 02:49 PM   #1002
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lol Beckham subbed himself out and couldnt take part in the shoot out...what a bitch
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Old 07-01-2006, 02:52 PM   #1003
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Old 07-01-2006, 02:53 PM   #1004
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Rooney is a fucking idiot, but Ronaldo can fuck right off too, little twat.

Also, fair play to Rob Harvey who called it before the tournament that Lampard wouldn't score a goal.
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Old 07-01-2006, 03:05 PM   #1007
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At least one paper will go with the headline 'ROO IDIOT' with a picture of the groin attack, and a picture of Rooney's angry ugly mug next to it.

Our players are just technically pathetic, and never look confident with penalties. Other countries know how the find the corner most of the time, plus they don't have a goalie who is unable to reach the corners due to his pie habit.
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I almost wish we had got through since if we had been missing Terry, Rooney, Beckham and Owen for the semi, some people's ridiculous expectations might have been lowered ever so slightly.

Ah well, at least we're not bitching like the Aussies
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Old 07-01-2006, 03:34 PM   #1009
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Hargreaves was fucking IMMENSE, he deserves all the credit in the world.

Lampard can fuck off.

Oh, and the Portuguese are diving cheating scum etc etc. But they're scum who are good at penalties
Oh come on. Aside from Maniche, they didn't dive. Dickheads like Alan Shearer and Alan Hansen can deflect the blame to Cristiano Ronaldo all they like but he did nothing wrong. If I'm playing a match and someone stamps on my team mates nuts then I'd go to the referee too. Rooney only has himself to blame.


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Also, fair play to Rob Harvey who called it before the tournament that Lampard wouldn't score a goal.
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Old 07-01-2006, 03:36 PM   #1010
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Oh come on. Aside from Maniche, they didn't dive. Dickheads like Alan Shearer and Alan Hansen can deflect the blame to Cristiano Ronaldo all they like but he did nothing wrong. If I'm playing a match and someone stamps on my team mates nuts then I'd go to the referee too. Rooney only has himself to blame.
It was half in jest, but Ronaldo was caught on camera clearly diving with zero contact at least twice.

But that wouldn't have scored a fucking penalty for us, so in the end it doesn't matter.
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Old 07-01-2006, 03:46 PM   #1011
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I was saying it off and on before the tournament...

Erikkson is your Berti Vogts. His tactics are non existant. In 5 years, he hasn't built a team. The FA gave him more support than they have any other manager and he blew it. England have been SHITE for 5 years. They have been living off one result against Germany who ended up getting to the World Cup final anyway so it made zero difference. His attiutde towards friendlies was the shits and his squad for this championship was totally wrong. Owen and Rooney were both hurt going in and if you are picking them, you need 5 strikers. I said for ages that Darren Bent might be shit but you have to try him in build up matches to find out and they didn't. Picking Theo Walcott was insane but if he at least played him, he could have said he lives and dies by his decisions. In truth, he fucking bottled it.

As for the players, I wouldn't blame them too much other than the fact that absolutely none of them stepped up to the ocassion with the very, very possible exception of Gary Neville when he actually played and Aaron Lennon wasn't too bad. Extremely mediocre performances by everyone.
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Old 07-01-2006, 03:49 PM   #1012
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I don't know what Beckhams deal was, but he didn't look fit to play on that team. He had zero impact on the game to that point. Also, not like it really mattered, but why did they take Lennon out at the end? Even though it wouldn't have really affected anything, he was playing really well.

But yeah, when Beckham, Joe Cole and Lampard don't show up, you're going to have some trouble. That missed shot by Rooney, where he completely whiffed on the ball, was pretty awful too.

Also, I knew as soon as it started that Robinson wouldn't win the shootout. He has no presence in the net compared to Lehman yesterday. And he obviously doesn't have the trick down for reading the shot. Saying that the goalie just guesses which way to dive and goes for it is kind of inaccurate, but that is what he was doing. He looked awful.

From watching this tournament, I think the two keys of winning are good strikers and good goalies. England has been good in the midfield and defense but lacked at the others for a while now. Look at Germany though, of course they were going to be good but before the World Cup I wouldn't have had them doing this well. I give the credit to Klose, who has been amazing in this World Cup. Rooney is good, but I've never stayed impressed with Owen after 1998 and Peter Crouch is just laughable.

It will be interesting to see where they go with a new coach now though, I don't think Sven will be missed too much.
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Old 07-01-2006, 03:58 PM   #1013
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The difference with Sven and Steve McClaren is that McClaren would have taken 5 strikers and even if his own tactics were shit, if you needed goals, he'd gamble and put 5 guys up front. That's what you should want.
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Old 07-01-2006, 03:58 PM   #1014
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Considering the new coach is Sven's #2 I doubt much is going to change

-edit- fuck's sake Harvey

I remain skeptical of McClaren. If he shows he has some balls and drops/subs the big names when they're obviously not playing well, then we'll see.
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Old 07-01-2006, 04:17 PM   #1015
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Old 07-01-2006, 04:18 PM   #1016
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Haha Ronaldo, legend. That "friendly" nudge he gave Rooney before the game, and his wink after Rooney saw red.
We actually don't know if that was after the red card. They just said it was. Could be a nice BBC editing job.
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Old 07-01-2006, 04:20 PM   #1018
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Old 07-01-2006, 04:23 PM   #1019
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I almost wish we had got through since if we had been missing Terry, Rooney, Beckham and Owen for the semi, some people's ridiculous expectations might have been lowered ever so slightly.

Ah well, at least we're not bitching like the Aussies
That's because you went out because you're terrible, not because of a diving cunt and a pissweak ref.



But I'm over it.

BTW thank you very fucking much England, I stayed up for fuck all and now I'm pissed off again. (not half as much as my wife)
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Shouldn't have stayed up then. I could have told you what was gonna happen if you asked before. Actually, I said on here 2 weeks ago it was over for England at the quater finals.

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Old 07-02-2006, 12:54 AM   #1025
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Some dude called into a local sports radio station I was listening to earlier today and said "If its France vs Germany in the final do you think France will surrender?"

Prob been said 393935398539 times but that was the first time I heard it and thought it was pretty funny. I kinda wanted to see Brazil go all the way, I like their style. Also, Brazilians come into my work all the time and they are the shit. One guy came in after the game and bought a keg and was like "I am drinking this all by myself tonight" and walked out - thought was pretty hilarious
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Old 07-02-2006, 01:33 AM   #1026
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Old 07-02-2006, 07:46 AM   #1028
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I'm guessing Germany - france, so that prolly means that it will be italy - portugal since I've been wrong with every one of my predictions thus far.

England were sub-par the entire tournament and deserved to go out. Hargreaves was huge in this last game, bout time they played him in his natural position. Looked to me that McClaren had already taken over. Sven was mailing it in. I have to say, really terrible decision by the FA to announce replacement before the Finals. Would love to have had Scolari.

Beckham has always been overrated, C. Ronaldo is a little bitch
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I can't see Germany getting past the Italians. The Italian defence is way too strong and with guys like Totti and Pirlo they only need one chance to slice that German defence, which is still pretty weak, wide open.

France - Portugal...eh. It seems like the Zidane farewell tour right now, gonna have to give them the edge. Of course that means Euro 2000 all over again if I'm right, but we'll see.
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I think it's Germany vs. Portugal in the final.
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England were subpar all tournament, yesterday we actually turned up, and some of our guys put in fantastic performances, but losing Rooney was the killers, Crouch was getting everything upfront but he had nobody to feed the ball to, he's not an up-on-his-own striker, so why Sven put him up alone is beyond me...Oh no its not, Sven's clueless.
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I think as usual most of the most highly touted teams have failed to produce, what does that show? Individuals are great, but not if they don't work well together, we have one of the best pools of talented players we've ever had, but Sven didn't use them to their fullest potential, we can only blame the players so far. Why for instance did he sub Joe Cole off pretty much every game, for Stuart Downing and Owen Hargreaves amongst others? Joe Cole had a good tournament, played consistently well, Frank Lampard was consistently awful, yet he played every minute...
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Fantastic performances? Hargreaves and Neville did well but that's about it. The rest of them were average at best.
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The only real positive from this world cup is that I've changed my opinion on Hargreaves.

Now it's time to re-build, hopefully Sven hasn't rubbed off on Mclaren too much and we will go back to a 4 4 2, or ideally a 5 3 2

Nice to see Backham drop the captain's armband, he's done alright as the skipper, but now it's time for John Terry to take his rightful play as England's new rock.

Oh and last night was the first time in my life I wanted to hit my mum, when she came over to my house and said that famous women saying:

'Why are you so upset? It's only a game'

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Terry shakes so much that I think he has Parkinson's.

I'd go with Gary Neville with Steven Gerrard as vice.
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Neville doesn't have that long left though does he? Best to give it to someone with more than 2-3 years to go in the team. I would go with Gerrard, as Terry still doesn't look 100% comfortable at international level.
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See your point but I'd still go with Neville.
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Fantastic performances? Hargreaves and Neville did well but that's about it. The rest of them were average at best.
Hargreaves? He didnt do much of anything!

Crouch (who i usually slate) came on and fought for everything, his control was great, he hustled, defended well but ultimately he had nobody to feed the ball to, as i already mentioned.

The defenders in general were solid i though, Rio and Cole as much as Neville, who made a few pretty big fuck ups which luckily didn't cost us, the backpost fiasco comes to mind.
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