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Old 01-11-2011, 05:52 PM   #1041
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So, we're in mid-January. How would you grade your favortie team's offseasons?
I grade the Pirates a Z.

Not only is it the lowest letter in the alphabet, it's what the fans catch when they go to the games.
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Old 01-11-2011, 06:30 PM   #1042
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So, we're in mid-January. How would you grade your favortie team's offseasons?
I'll give the Yankees a B-

Not getting Cliff Lee really hurt them. The Hammer is back for another 2 seasons, and Jeter got re-signed for 3 more seasons for a little more than he should have gotten. But I can live with it. Feliciano will do nicely in the bullpen.

News came out today they're making a run a Justin Duchscherer. Missed all of 2009 and started 5 games in '10 before his hip gave out. Cashman had to do something. Either he's tired of waiting for Pettitte's decision, or it finally dawned on him that Nova and Mitre as the 4 and 5 starters would suck. Throw him a low-risk contract and I'll be happy because time is running out.
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I'll give the Yankees a B-

Not getting Cliff Lee really hurt them. The Hammer is back for another 2 seasons, and Jeter got re-signed for 3 more seasons for a little more than he should have gotten. But I can live with it. Feliciano will do nicely in the bullpen.

News came out today they're making a run a Justin Duchscherer. Missed all of 2009 and started 5 games in '10 before his hip gave out. Cashman had to do something. Either he's tired of waiting for Pettitte's decision, or it finally dawned on him that Nova and Mitre as the 4 and 5 starters would suck. Throw him a low-risk contract and I'll be happy because time is running out.
Yeah, but Nova does deserve to be the fifth starter at least. I think we may be able to tread water until the trade deadline. I give their offseason a C.
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Give the Reds a B+. They had little money to work with and they lost Arthur Rhodes, but they kept Arroyo, they upgraded at shortstop, and I love love love the Bruce contract.
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I'll give the Red Sox an A-. I'm thrilled with almost all of the moves they've made this off-season from acquiring Gonzalez to signing Crawford, Jenks, and Wheeler. The only negative for me is that Gonzalez hasn't been signed to a contract extension yet, but that may happen in March or at the beginning of the season.
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C- for Yankees. I would have given them a D but I approve of keeping Gardner over spending money for Crawford.
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C- for Yankees. I would have given them a D but I approve of keeping Gardner over spending money for Crawford.
I am truly confident that the trade deadline will be A-. The Red Sox by far had the greatest off season.
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So, we're in mid-January. How would you grade your favortie team's offseasons?

My favorite team is the Cubs.

They got Carlos Pena...Matt Garza...Quade's the Manager...

...I don't know.

I'll give them a C.
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Old 01-12-2011, 03:58 PM   #1050
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Rockies get an A. Locked up their two best players. Re signed De La Rosa. Signed Wigginton to back Helton up and Jose Lopez is a good pick up. Lindstrom as well. Also they're working on signing Ubaldo Jimenez to a long term contract.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:11 PM   #1051
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Yankees should get a higher grade from you guys for not freaking out and overpaying for an average player after losing out on Lee and Crawford.
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Yankees should get a higher grade from you guys for not freaking out and overpaying for an average player after losing out on Lee and Crawford.
I don't think they ever wanted Crawford. Amazing enough from what I read Brett Gardner is their Carl Crawford . I like Gardner a lot so....... But, Lee I was so sure the Yankees would get him. The Free Agent pool was a little shallow so I figured that we'd at least trade for a pitcher.
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Old 01-12-2011, 09:36 PM   #1053
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I doubt Crawford was a top priority but he was on the list of players to get or consider depending on what occurred to the Lee sweepstakes. Yankees definitely wanted Lee as their first major signing (not counting resigning Jeter or Riveria).

Crawford would have been their next priority but they spent too much time going after Lee that all they could do was attempt to drive up the price to retaliate when Red Sox kept driving up the prices on players Yankees wanted. Red Sox managed to make the Yankees spend almost $80 million on just keeping Jeter and Riveria when Yankees kept saying they wanted to spend much less than both of their asking prices.
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Traded Adrian Gonzalez to Boston for RHP Casey Kelly, 1B Anthony Rizzo, OF Raymond Fuentes, and INF/OF Eric Patterson.

Trading you best offensive player hurt, but it was the lesser of two evils when you're market doesn't allow for the type of deal Boston is going to hand him. They got two very, very good pieces in Kelly and Rizzo, who could be apart of the team as early as 2012.

Traded for and extended shortstop Jason Bartlett through the 2012 season with an option for 2013. Big time upgrade. Everth Cabrera showed he is still in dire need of developing, and Bartlett is a massive, steady upgrade over both an inexperienced Cabrera and Jerry Hairston, Jr., who saw a ton of time at short last year with injuries to Cabrera.

Signed 2nd baseman Orlando Hudson to a 2 year, $11mil. deal. Again, another strong upgrade over last year's opening day suitor, David Eckstein. Hudson is not only younger, but is head and shoulder a much better overall player than Eckstein.

Signed RHP Aaron Harang to a one year deal. Welcome home Aaron. He is a good candidate for a bounce back year considering he'll be pitching half his starts in the most pitcher-friendly park and division in baseball.

Signed RHP Dustin Mosley. Mosley will likely be the swingman for the Padres, pitching long relief for the most part but also being available for the spot start if necessary.

Signed 1B/OF Brad Hawpe to a one year, $3mil. deal. Hawpe is the likely the opening day first baseman, and prior to last year, was a very, very solid middle of the order hitter for Colorado. He's only 31, and if healthy, a return to form is not unlikely.

Traded for OF Cameron Maybin. Maybin is still only 24 years old, is projected as 5 tool prospect, and even if he puts together a year similar to CF Mike Cameron's 2 year run with the Padres, it's not only a huge upgrade, but a huge win in the trade seeing as they only dealt two relief pitchers who were not huge role players in last year's 90 win season.

They've also acquired a slew of backup catchers, but none are shoe-ins for the backup role just yet.

Grade: B-

They addressed the glaring holes they had up the middle in with Bartlett, Hudson, and Maybin. They stocked the farm system with 3 of the BoSox's top 10 prospects, 2 of which are going to be good to great players in the near future. They filled out the rotation with a reliable innings eater. And they signed a guy who is coming off one bad year, and is a solid segue into either Anthony Rizzo or Kyle Blanks taking over in 2013 with Brad Hawpe.

The only negative this year has been the loss of Adrian, but they did the best you could hope for, and I'm glad they traded for younger, high ceiling players who are a year or two away rather than risking two draft picks who may or may not pan out.
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C- for Yankees. I would have given them a D but I approve of keeping Gardner over spending money for Crawford.
They would have been better off spending on Crawford. He's ten times the player Garnder is.
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Give the Reds a B+. They had little money to work with and they lost Arthur Rhodes, but they kept Arroyo, they upgraded at shortstop, and I love love love the Bruce contract.
The Bruce contract and the Arroyo extension are great, but I'm not seeing Renteria as much of an upgrade of Cabrera. Seems more like a lateral move if Renteria can stay healthy.
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I'll give the Yankees a B-

Not getting Cliff Lee really hurt them. The Hammer is back for another 2 seasons, and Jeter got re-signed for 3 more seasons for a little more than he should have gotten. But I can live with it. Feliciano will do nicely in the bullpen.
How is that a B? They lost out on their on their most desired free agent in Lee, and while Mo and Jeter being brought back are not bad moves, the team itself is not better than it was at the beginning of the off season.

I'd call the Yankees losers this off season. Outside of signing guys, who realistically weren't ever going anywhere, they didn't do anything to significantly upgrade.
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Sounds like Pettitte might pull a Clemens. He's informed the Yankees that he hasn't retired, but he won't be ready by Opening Day if he does end up pitching.
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Sounds like Pettitte might pull a Clemens. He's informed the Yankees that he hasn't retired, but he won't be ready by Opening Day if he does end up pitching.
Pettitte is great and everything but I don't think the Yankees should sit around and wait on him if he's not going to push himself to be ready for Opening Day. may be time to go a different direction.
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Pettitte is great and everything but I don't think the Yankees should sit around and wait on him if he's not going to push himself to be ready for Opening Day. may be time to go a different direction.
The Yankees are not gonna be waiting for him. Pettite has told the Yankees to go a different direction. And Cashman isn't gonna be hounding him about it just get duchscherer and we're all set until the trading deadline at least.
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The Bruce contract and the Arroyo extension are great, but I'm not seeing Renteria as much of an upgrade of Cabrera. Seems more like a lateral move if Renteria can stay healthy.
Well actually according to Walt Jocketty, the Reds are going to have Paul Janish as their starting SS heading into spring training with Renteria coming off the bench and subbing every few games. Even though we all know Dusty loves his veterans, I'm inclined to believe Janish is going to get a decent amount of innings since he's the team's best fielder.

And if Janish can hit well enough that he can stay in the lineup, having Renteria as a pinch hitter is going to be huge.
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Dodgers: added some Hawksworth pitcher from the Cards, Juan Uribe,and Jon Garland.

I love our rotation. Kershaw, Billingsley, Lilly, Kuroda, Garland. Our hitting is terrible, though. We need a power hitting 3rd baseman or Left Fielder.

Grade: B-
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pitching will kill the Yanks this year. there's no way around it. I am not liking this year at all right now. I could just see this year being the kind of year where injuries pile up and shit just happens. I think they will be in the race of course, but right now thier pitching staff is too weak to carry them. I don't trust AJ at all.
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On the topic, I give the Tigers a B+. We resigned Magglio, signed Victor Martinez, got Benoit. If Zumaya stays healthy, I will totally love the bullpen. Signing Brad Penny was good too.
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Dodgers: added some Hawksworth pitcher from the Cards, Juan Uribe,and Jon Garland.

I love our rotation. Kershaw, Billingsley, Lilly, Kuroda, Garland. Our hitting is terrible, though. We need a power hitting 3rd baseman or Left Fielder.

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That divorce is killing the Dodgers right now. And as a Padres fan, I'm all for it.

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Left field is a blackhole for them right now.
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Divorce killed us more last year than it will this year. Payroll went up 20 mil. We'll be fine. But yeah, definitely need LF help. Jay Gibbons... ugh.
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Yanks sign Rafael Soriano. 3 years, $35 million

Kyle Farsnworth to the Rays

2 good moves for the Yanks
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Actually not really. $35 million is a fuckload for a setup guy, but it the Yanks so its no biggie. I forgot they lose a DRAFT PICK for it. Pretty desparate.
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Farnsworth is on a team we'll see 18 times?

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Divorce killed us more last year than it will this year. Payroll went up 20 mil. We'll be fine. But yeah, definitely need LF help. Jay Gibbons... ugh.
Yea...but realistically what else is out there? Free agent crop is pretty barren and I don't know what kind of farm system depth they have and if it would be enough to trade for a younger left fielder.
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Actually not really. $35 million is a fuckload for a setup guy, but it the Yanks so its no biggie. I forgot they lose a DRAFT PICK for it. Pretty desparate.
Soriano is a good closer and I was a little angry that they wouldn't bolster their bullpen just because of a draft pick. All though I'd prefer a starting pitcher. I guess D-Rob and Joba aren't quite the 8th inning guys you had in mind eh Cashman?
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Joba, if he isn't packaged for someone, has LONG RELIEF written all over him.
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Watch if a NL team signed him he would be a stud there. I think he'd be a great starter elsewhere.
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The fact that Posednik might start scares me.
He's not on the team any more.
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I'm kind of surprised Podsednik hasn't found a team yet tbh. I think he's looking for 1 year, $3 million or something like that but the longer he waits until camp the more that number will go down.

I think he'd be the perfect kind of guy for the Mets to grab as their 4th OFer. Speed and defense are crucial for the fill-in guy.
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Jeff Francis signs with the Royals for one year. Not sure of the dollars yet, but I'd guess it's something like $1-2 million guaranteed with an extra million or 2 in incentives.

I think Chris Young may have been waiting for Francis to go off the board, so I hope the Mets throw an offer his way now.
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