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Old 04-12-2017, 11:16 AM   #1
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They need to outsouce it like the did NV...you know...to people who make RPGs...
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They need to outsouce it like the did NV...you know...to people who make RPGs...
Yeah, like maybe to, oh, I dunno...Bethesda Game Studios...
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They havent made an rpg since morrowind
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Why don't you go ahead and drop them a line to that effect then? Oh, wait, what's that? Because it's NOT TRUE?! *GASP*...
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Yes it is. Its an rpg the same way call of duty is.

Slap a leveling system on something and suddenly its an rpg. Right? Except not even sort of.

Like fallout 1/2 and pre oblivion TES its was about stats and numbers. It was dice rolls playing out in front of you. Table top realized in 3 dimensional spaces.

Oblivion/FO3 and on its actions not stats. Each game havjng fewer and fewer number based action with dice rolls be stripped away until stats are an after thought. Barely meaningful and base character class either removed or irrelevant.

Remember how in Skyrim there were zones that only a kajit acrobat could reach? Course you dont. Or the places only an argonian or a alteration master could reach? Hpw about the guilds you join bause of your nationality an stats?

Oh thats right, your warrior with not knowing a single spell is master of the mages guild.

Such rpg. Very role play, wow.
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Yes it is. Its an rpg the same way call of duty is.

Slap a leveling system on something and suddenly its an rpg. Right? Except not even sort of.

Like fallout 1/2 and pre oblivion TES its was about stats and numbers. It was dice rolls playing out in front of you. Table top realized in 3 dimensional spaces.

Oblivion/FO3 and on its actions not stats. Each game havjng fewer and fewer number based action with dice rolls be stripped away until stats are an after thought. Barely meaningful and base character class either removed or irrelevant.

Remember how in Skyrim there were zones that only a kajit acrobat could reach? Course you dont. Or the places only an argonian or a alteration master could reach? Hpw about the guilds you join bause of your nationality an stats?

Oh thats right, your warrior with not knowing a single spell is master of the mages guild.

Such rpg. Very role play, wow.
I did, and occasionally still dust off and play Morrowind. It was quite deep for its time and my only knock against it is the whole issue of not saving enough leading to the whole false "Your disc may be dirty or damaged. Press 'A' to retry." error. Yes, they eventually patched it and made the game create restore files when that would happen, but it's something that never should have been an issue in the first place.
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You give Wasteland 2 a whirl? It proves that the first to Fallout games can work on a console port, and also adds to the whole weird line of succession for the meta story behind Fallout's conception (Fallout 1 was originally supposed to be Wasteland 2... and now Wasteland 2 is not only a direct sequel to itself but a spiritual successor to the first two Fallout games). Even geographically, the Wasteland games are close enough to possiblyexist contiguously, but still far enough away to not step on eachother's toes.
LOVED WASTELAND 2. Would play a sequel in a heart beat.

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I did, and occasionally still dust off and play Morrowind. It was quite deep for its time and my only knock against it is the whole issue of not saving enough leading to the whole false "Your disc may be dirty or damaged. Press 'A' to retry." error. Yes, they eventually patched it and made the game create restore files when that would happen, but it's something that never should have been an issue in the first place.
You're playing a game ported onto the original xbox. It's not Morrowinds fault youre having a meh experience, it was never intended to be played on console, let alone one so weak.

Also "Deep for its time" as if something more deep has come since?
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LOVED WASTELAND 2. Would play a sequel in a heart beat.
: Dr. Hubert Farnsworth voice: "Well, GOOD NEWS!" Just tentatively have to wait another two years, barring no setbacks, delays, or otherwise devastating controversy (or, the real world doesn't skew to imitate art in that time)... the teaser for 3 got its hooks me as much as the teaser for 2 did, and I'm not a big teaser or trailer guy for games or movies.

I also hope it doesn't show up too close to another actual Fallout sequel...
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"I dunno man im a lvl 34 and there are dragons. Thats what an rpg is."
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And dont get me started and how the 1st two fallout games...fucking brilliant rpgs.

I love oblivion, skyrim, fo3 and even fo4. But each iterations is less and less of an rpg. None worse the fo4. Literally each game "streamlines" from the previous bethesda outing. Aka gimps or removes rpg elements completely.

The saving grace of NV is the team that made FO2 was in charge and tried to add rpg elements into the engine. Mixed success but a step in the right direction.
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And dont get me started and how the 1st two fallout games...fucking brilliant rpgs.

I love oblivion, skyrim, fo3 and even fo4. But each iterations is less and less of an rpg. None worse the fo4. Literally each game "streamlines" from the previous bethesda outing. Aka gimps or removes rpg elements completely.

The saving grace of NV is the team that made FO2 was in charge and tried to add rpg elements into the engine. Mixed success but a step in the right direction.
You give Wasteland 2 a whirl? It proves that the first to Fallout games can work on a console port, and also adds to the whole weird line of succession for the meta story behind Fallout's conception (Fallout 1 was originally supposed to be Wasteland 2... and now Wasteland 2 is not only a direct sequel to itself but a spiritual successor to the first two Fallout games). Even geographically, the Wasteland games are close enough to possiblyexist contiguously, but still far enough away to not step on eachother's toes.
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Whoa, I never said Morrowind was a MEH experience. I loved the game itself, every second of it. I did not love that bug.

As a matter of fact, sometimes I dust it off just to create a new character and sincere I already have played through all the guilds and joined a Great House and played through all the story fodder with other characters, I just use the old Jack of Trades trick to give my character ridiculous stats and just basically run around causing chaos.
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Had no idea they were making one. Just looked up the gameplay trailer...shockingly good
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Been duping some copper so as to build statues @ a settlement when I'm done with everything else and bored for some XP, just to see what level you have to actually reach for 10 (or 11) in each S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stat and every level of all perks. I'm talking first-hand, not "GameFAQs/Reddit thread #7842" about it.

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According to an interview from todd howard that last month neither are. Two new ips will be finished before moving forward ln ES6
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ES6 is just having concept talks but its years away from development.
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