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Old 01-24-2010, 02:18 PM   #1
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Thats what they said about Sammy Sosa when he played with the Rangers. Oh wait
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I think when it is all said and done, Damon will be a Yankee for 1 year 5-6 mil.
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Damon is going to end up back in Kansas City. Watch.
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Both the Yankees and Damon want to be together, so it will happen.
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Sorry. Low blood sugar.
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Mark Loretta retired. And got a front office job as Special Assistant to Baseball Operations with the Padres.
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Mets might have made an offer to Smoltz. Can't help but shake the thought that it'll be worth way more than anybody else would give, or for 2 years or something.

If they do get Smoltz though, I'd give him the chance to win a rotation spot (since he WANTS to start but will do whatever he has to) but hope that Nieve or Niese step up and Smoltz cna be bullpen bound instead.
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A's sign Ben Sheets...Cubs sign Xavier Nady...

UGH...pretty much the two FAs left I really wanted, now off the board. Fucking Billy Beane. I can't see the A's competing this year so this move was clearly just a "if you stay healthy, we're gonna get a shitload for you in July" move.
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too bad that'll be gone by ST due to the Os stupid policy against facial hair
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A's signed Ben Sheets to replace Rich Harden as the most injury prone pitcher ever on their roster
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A's will be so far out of contention by june Sheets will be traded for some prospects, same goes for Justin Duscherer too.
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Yankees sign Randy Winn. Would have rather had someone like Reed Johnson but whatever. Hopefully Gardner still gets the majority of time out there.

I guess Damon is officially done as a Yankee. What a screw up by Boras with Damon. He's gonna get a couple million maximum now.
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Winn has never been to the postseason in his 12 year career. That's the longest current streak in the majors. And now it's over.
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Maybe he's a curse to whatever team hes on and the Yankees dont make the playoffs!

Can we clone him and send the clone to Boston and Tampa? Then the Os might have a shot.
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Good. Glad this is over and done with.
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Twins expected to announce a contract extension with Joe Mauer. No official word but I'm hearing it's something like 5 years, $100 million

Makes me glad cause I've seen so many Yanks/Red Sox fans penciling him into their "Lineup for year 201?"
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Makes me glad cause I've seen so many Yanks/Red Sox fans penciling him into their "Lineup for year 201?"
I need your source on this. Last I heard they were going to wait until the end of the year to start negotiations, which would obviously be a huge mistake.
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I need your source on this. Last I heard they were going to wait until the end of the year to start negotiations, which would obviously be a huge mistake.
It was all over the Twins message board last night, numerous Twins beat writers were saying something should be announced at TwinsFest.
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Dodgers re-signed Belliard. Why do we hate Hudson so much, Jesus, dude is good!
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Really don't understand what Boras is doing with Damon. I mean I get trying to get your guy the most money, but don't be stupid. And then trying to use the Tigers and Reds' interests as leverage is just dumb. The Tigers are in salary dump mode and the Reds never have any money anyway.
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Really don't understand what Boras is doing with Damon. I mean I get trying to get your guy the most money, but don't be stupid. And then trying to use the Tigers and Reds' interests as leverage is just dumb. The Tigers are in salary dump mode and the Reds never have any money anyway.
This is what Boras has done for a while now. He keeps getting his star players the big contracts but all his lesser guys he asks for the moon and they get screwed. He did a good job making the Cards bid against themselves for Holliday but when he plays the same kind of game for guys that teams don't absolutely needs he kind of screws them over.

As for Damon, he keeps saying he wanted to be a Yankee but if he really did he would be there now. He was offered that 2 year deal a while back and didn't want it and as late as last week he was offered a one year 6M dollar deal. Which is pretty reasonable considering what the market has been like the past few years for guys who aren't superstars. If Boras was smart he would have seen what happened to Abreu last year and jumped on the 2 year deal earlier in the offseason. Now Damon is pretty much in the same boat as Abreu was and chances are he gets 5M or less next year.

I'm sure teams are aware of how much Yankee Stadium skewed his power stats last year. If he get a 1 year/6M dollar offer like the one the Yankees offered last week I'd be surprised.
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This is what Boras has done for a while now. He keeps getting his star players the big contracts but all his lesser guys he asks for the moon and they get screwed. He did a good job making the Cards bid against themselves for Holliday but when he plays the same kind of game for guys that teams don't absolutely needs he kind of screws them over.

As for Damon, he keeps saying he wanted to be a Yankee but if he really did he would be there now. He was offered that 2 year deal a while back and didn't want it and as late as last week he was offered a one year 6M dollar deal. Which is pretty reasonable considering what the market has been like the past few years for guys who aren't superstars. If Boras was smart he would have seen what happened to Abreu last year and jumped on the 2 year deal earlier in the offseason. Now Damon is pretty much in the same boat as Abreu was and chances are he gets 5M or less next year.

I'm sure teams are aware of how much Yankee Stadium skewed his power stats last year. If he get a 1 year/6M dollar offer like the one the Yankees offered last week I'd be surprised.
Heck, at this point I wouldn't be surprised to see Damon here in PGH in '11. We seem to be the graveyard of careers.
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It's Scott Boras. Super agent to the stars in baseball. Like Rosenhaus is to football. He thinks his clients are that good they deserve all that extra money. Either let him get the money, or go around his back if you're tired of waiting.
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Can't completely blame Boras. Damon had one of his best seasons as a Yankee, practically won them the World Series after winning Game 4 for them, and deserves to paid paid so accordingly. Sure, initially he didn't want to make less than the $13 mil he made last year, but what kind of person goes into negotiations starting with a proposal for making less money? And all of the sudden, the Yankees finally get a payroll limit and won't budge to give Damon more than $5 mil?
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Yeah, you can completely blame Boras. Of course Damon should make less money, he's 37 years old now. Why would you pay a 37 year old left fielder with no arm an an above average bat 13 million a year?

The Yankees made him a fair offer of 2 years and 16 million which is honestly more than Damon is worth AT LEAST in years.

The Yankees weren't going to bid against themselves. They don't need Damon. Damon wants to play for the Yankees and he and Boras should have realized no one else was showing any interest and the Yankees are the only team that is going to blow someone elses offer away.

I give Cashman a lot of credit for calling Boras' bluff, not that everyone couldn't see it a mile away.

I don't think Boras should have jumped at the Yankees first offer, but he rejected that like 2 months ago and Damon has barely been linked to anyone else. He should have saw that there was no demand for Damon A LOT earlier and called them back to make a deal. Demand is what dictates the market, nothing else. Not much demand for a 37 year old left fielder who has BY FAR the worst arm in baseball and is a defensive liability in general. Damon is a good hitter but he should be a DH. The market for DH's is horrible this year, there's a bunch of productive bats still sitting there awaiting a deal, and plenty of them aren't going to get one. At least those guys know they're DHs and have no problem DHing, Damon still thinks he's an outfielder though.

Cashman took no bullshit, he went out and got Nick Johnson and Damon's leverage was basically gone right then and there, not that he had much anyway.

Why should the Yankees pay him anymore than 5 million a year anyway? No one else is going to give him more than that. Boras and Damon are going to find that one out the hard way and Damon will go down in baseball history as a hired gun who is more concerned with his paycheck then winning. Damon's not the brightest guy, Boras is supposed to handle these matters for him and properly read the market. I think he's the only person in the world who thought someone was going to give him more money than the Yankees. Mystery teams showing interest? Yeah, ok. Where are they now?

We're definitely downgrading big time with the Gardner/Winn platoon but our left field defense improves dramatically. Plus Gardner hasn't had the opportunity to play a full season so who knows what we really have in him? I don't really think he's more than a 4th outfielder but I could see him being a Juan Pierre-type player because he makes a lot of contact, doesn't strike out a ton and is the fastest player in the Yankee system. Winn sucks now for the most part but he provides above average defense and an ok bat. He's insurance and nothing more.
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lol, A-Rod says he was staring at potential retirement with his hip injury last year. What a crock of shit, there is no way he was walking away from the 9 years and like $250 million left on his deal. He would have ridden it out as either a terrible DH or just collected his money on the disabled list, but he wasn't gonna retire.
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lol, A-Rod says he was staring at potential retirement with his hip injury last year. What a crock of shit, there is no way he was walking away from the 9 years and like $250 million left on his deal. He would have ridden it out as either a terrible DH or just collected his money on the disabled list, but he wasn't gonna retire.
A-Rod is the Brett Favre of baseball. Finding any way to get into the headlines. Last week it was him crying when he received the World Series MVP award from the writers and this week it's him saying he was this close to retiring. He's just looking for some sympathy from the fans and media.
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Honestly though, Damon is perfect for the Blue Jays. They need a left fielder and a leadoff man. Plus, they'll probably trade him back to the Yankees in July.
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