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Old 05-28-2010, 04:43 PM   #81
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Would be pretty juicy if Goldberg was still in his prime with the undefeated streak and he went against the Undertaker at WrestleMania...would definitely be a money maker right there.
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I think that a triple threat situation would probably present the best suspense. With the right build and opponents, people might believe that Taker could lose without getting pinned. Maybe Jericho and Punk, or Jericho and Edge? HHH?
This is probably the best case scenario. Unless they can do HHH vs Taker, a Triple Threat for the World Title is the way to go. The triple threat makes it interesting since Taker can lose the match without being involved in the fall. I quite like this idea. They could do Taker/Punk/Swagger which would give Punk and Swagger a huge rub simply by wrestling Taker at Mania, but that might not be enough star power or much of a draw. Taker/Jericho/Punk or Taker/Jericho/Swagger would be better. Not sure how Jericho would end up on Smackdown again but the WWE could easily find a way. Then Taker can get one last championship reign and disappear for most of 2011 before returning for the final match of his career against Cena at WM 28.

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Old 05-28-2010, 06:47 PM   #83
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The more suggestions I hear people bounce off the wall, the more I horribly realize that they are probably doing Taker vs. Cena. God I hope not.
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Old 05-28-2010, 08:50 PM   #84
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The more suggestions I hear people bounce off the wall, the more I horribly realize that they are probably doing Taker vs. Cena. God I hope not.
don't worry, when Taker's streak goes, it will likely be to someone that's either a flash in the pan, or a flailing backstage favorite they are desperate to get over. Cena's too marketable to fall into either category.
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Old 05-28-2010, 08:57 PM   #85
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don't worry, when Taker's streak goes, it will likely be to someone that's either a flash in the pan, or a flailing backstage favorite they are desperate to get over. Cena's too marketable to fall into either category.
I don't know about if it will be a flash in the pan but will be someone who doesn't have the same longevity as the Undertaker did.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:04 PM   #86
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I don't know about if it will be a flash in the pan but will be someone who doesn't have the same longevity as the Undertaker did.
I doubt anybody these days couldpull the longevity of Taker.
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Old school fans should only have on answer....Ted Dibiase Jr. It would actually have a WWF/WWE angle end the way it should. Daddy and Ted could even bring back brother love and end the streak the only way it should that makes sense.
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Old school fans should only have on answer....Ted Dibiase Jr. It would actually have a WWF/WWE angle end the way it should. Daddy and Ted could even bring back brother love and end the streak the only way it should that makes sense.
I'm not an oldschool fan. I don't get it.
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If they wanna wait and make Cena the 20th win, I gotta go with Dale's idea. Have someone beat Taker very decisively (and everyone else) for months leading into Mania, and it really doesn't matter who it is if it's booked correctly. The marks will eat it up, and the smarks will know the result but look forward to match quality.
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Think Michael Cole will call it the "first time John Cena has wrestled the Undertaker?"
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jericho wil be a ryt choice..

but i rather choose john cena.. it a better way to make cena a heal.. besides! cena is victorious in wrestlemania since on his debut at WXX except W24.. i would love to see that match on W27 vs taker streak.. maybe they can do it a submission match.. since cena never quit! and no one in history that make undertkaer tap out!

hir are some matches that i want to see at WM27..

undertaker vs john cena submission match (or vs goldberg undeafed and mania vs undefeated in single matches)

HHH vs HBK (i would love to see HBK back at WM vs on his buddy HHH)
undertaker tapped out to kurt angle in the american bad ass heel era
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sheamus vs. undertaker book it
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**To clarify before I post, here are my thoughts on The Undertaker's streak:

It should end. I know some people don't want to see it touched, but I only understand that from a Taker mark's perspective. Professional wrestling is a business, and with Taker's recent matches at WrestleMania, it's gotten to the point where the streak means more than the World Title. That is not something that should just be...dropped. It makes no sense. The WWE gave Taker the streak, so he should give them a huge star back in return.**


That being said, I do agree that Taker can't really face anyone at WrestleMania anymore. It's a waste of a huge draw. On the current WWE roster, here are the guys that I think the WWE would consider putting up against Undertaker:

John Cena: Do not kid yourself. This match is money. The WWE knows this well enough. Cena doesn't need to be a heel, but he will get booed like crazy by even the women and children. It will be Cena stepping up for the ultimate challenge, and having no one believing in him but himself. This could eventually be the trigger for a heel turn, which will one day happen. Not tomorrow, but one day.

Cena makes a lot of money as a face, so right now turning him heel would only be a creative decision. The longer they hold off, the more epic the turn will be, however. We'll see how Linda goes in politics, and we'll see as new faces are built up as stars, but eventually Cena turning heel will happen, and I think that will be the catalyst into a new "Attitude era" for the WWE. The fall of The Undertaker could mark that. I think WrestleMania XXVIII is likely the place for that to be. Next year is too soon.

Ted DiBiase: This has been rumoured before, and so far the push of Teddy DiBiase has been legitimate. He's a good performer, but who would have seen the movie role coming? The history between his father and The Undertaker could make an interesting point of discussion in the feud, too. I personally think that next year is too soon, but whatever.

Sheamus: He is loved by people that matter. It just comes down to how much Taker loves him, I guess. Sheamus is on a tear, is always well protected, and could just start attacking The Undertaker to set up the feud. It won't be the Feud of the Year, but it's easy to write, and it gives The Undertaker something of a break. People won't be expecting the greatest match of all-time at WrestleMania from him for once.

Jack Swagger: This is rumoured to be a SummerSlam match, but I could see these two facing off at WrestleMania, too. It all depends on how much Taker likes working with Swagger, I guess (since he is a new guy). Swagger claiming to also have a streak going against The Undertaker (1-0) would be absolutely hilarious (perhaps something a Taker feud should not be), but the match would absolutely deliver. Swagger would be great in the role of the guy who actually beats Taker heading into their WrestleMania match, so that the streak actually seems threatened by "The Natural Winner."

Sting: It all depends whether or not he wants to do something with the WWE. This doesn't need much explanation. It's a dream match, pure and simple.

So with those out of the way, I will say that the only guy I can legitimately see ending the streak, is John Cena. And I don't think that is a completely loathesome thing. And I am not one to really support the push of Cena. But he basically is the company in some respects, and while it isn't needed, Cena ending the streak would give him a legitimate claim to be the greatest of all-time. He'd have spent over one thousand days as WWE Champion, he'd have probably won World Titles into the double-digits (Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Triple H and Edge are probably the only other guys who will be up there) and he'd have some more "classic matches" under his belt. But him breaking the streak would confirm him as "The Icon."

The only other people I could see doing it, are Chris Jericho (in a swerve, since no one would take him seriously heading into it) and CM Punk. Jericho achieving it would be tremendous for his heel character. It'd give him some more bragging rights, and would set him up as the heel of the company. I'm not sure if Jericho would even want to break the streak, though. It's a lot of pressure, and I think he likes working with the younger guys. But I didn't call Jericho walking out of this year's WrestleMania with a World Title, either.

CM Punk doing it would be a heat machine. I'd mark out for that very reason alone. I know a lot of people would hate this idea, but I think it would work. The Undertaker goes into WrestleMania next year involved in the World Heavyweight Title program. Let's say that Jack Swagger is still the champion. That way we have this epic "Jack Swagger's Streak as Champion vs. The Undertaker's WrestleMania Streak." Something has to give here. Swagger loses the World Title in what would hopefully be a classic, giving him his fourth World Heavyweight Title reign, and eighth career World Title. Cue three-time Money in the Bank Ladder Match Winner, CM Punk making his entrance. The crowd would be pissed instantly. Punk has a huge grin on his face, and The Undertaker actually has an expression that knows he is fucked. Cue Taker trying to put up a fight, but Punk wearing him down and eventually getting the win and his fourth World Heavyweight Title, and sixth career World Title if you count ROH and ECW (some people do).

The crowd would be pissed. I could just imagine Matt Striker on commentary talking about the significance of this event in WWE history. People would be pissed, but that is sort of the point. Punk fucked Taker's streak in the ass. You have Punk open the show on SmackDown!, coming out as the fans would hopefully be out for his blood. Punk cuts a promo saying that this is now his yard, and he's the greatest in the history of this sport -- and goes on to list his records. He says his greatest accomplishment is defeating The Undertaker for the World Heavyweight Title at WrestleMania, and becoming "The New Phenom" of the WWE. Cue The Undertaker's gong, and out comes The Dead Man. "You think because you defeated me at WrestleMania, this is over? Punk...now I'm just pissed off." Punk's facial expressions at that point would be a timeless moment. But from there, you do CM Punk vs. The Undertaker vs. Jack Swagger at the following PPV. That would be an interesting match, I am sure. But essentially you build to a Buried Alive Match between Punk and The Undertaker, or something, where Punk buries The Undertaker (perhaps with heel assist), setting up a new era in the WWE.
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I agree with one thing in particular. Undertaker losing at Wrestlemania after winning a 30 minute world title match to the Money in the Bank winner.

Better yet, if the Money in the Bank PPV replaces the annual Wrestlemania match, you get the greatest heel-fuck of all time. Someone who may not even be scheduled to wrestle at Wrestlemania who won the match in July!

Let's say CM Punk wins it for shits and grins. Gets "injured" the next week and is gone from television for an undetermined amount of time. Then, Undertaker...after winning a grueling gimmick match "No DQ/Streetfight" against someone like Sheamus or Swagger (it'd be even better if it was a Triple Threat Street Fight), Taker is in the ring bleeding just a dab and nearly completely spent and Punk's music hits.

One 15 minute match later with outside interference, a ref bump, foreign object and feet on the rope, a second ref bump leading to Vince sliding in the ring to make the count and Taker kicking out of 3-4 finishers only to have CM Punk walk out the new Champ after an epic battle.
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Awesome. I know the streak is somewhat sacred, but doing this makes The Undertaker look like a fucking beast. It also makes the heel look like a fucking ambitious cunt-wipe, which is perfect for a heel. If they keep the mask on him, too, they can have CM Punk continue to grow his hair, and then unmask after he wins the match, too. Seeing CM Punk's evil grin and a regrown head of hair after just ending The Undertaker's streak and winning his fourth World Heavyweight Title would be tremendous.

I also like the idea, because it adds a human quality to The Undertaker. After so many years of hard work and dominance, the rug is pulled from him. It's not often that you get to feel genuinely sorry for the Dead Man. It could actually serve as a way to evolve the character and give him that build to retirement. I'm not saying ditch the stylised stuff completely -- but you can move the character into more three-dimensional areas with a loss like that. His feud with Punk could become about respect, with Punk gloating that he took away The Undertaker's addiction -- his mystique and his streak -- and now he's a junkie without the crack.
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**To clarify before I post, here are my thoughts on The Undertaker's streak:

It should end. I know some people don't want to see it touched, but I only understand that from a Taker mark's perspective. Professional wrestling is a business, and with Taker's recent matches at WrestleMania, it's gotten to the point where the streak means more than the World Title. That is not something that should just be...dropped. It makes no sense. The WWE gave Taker the streak, so he should give them a huge star back in return.**


That being said, I do agree that Taker can't really face anyone at WrestleMania anymore. It's a waste of a huge draw. On the current WWE roster, here are the guys that I think the WWE would consider putting up against Undertaker:

John Cena: Do not kid yourself. This match is money. The WWE knows this well enough. Cena doesn't need to be a heel, but he will get booed like crazy by even the women and children. It will be Cena stepping up for the ultimate challenge, and having no one believing in him but himself. This could eventually be the trigger for a heel turn, which will one day happen. Not tomorrow, but one day.

Cena makes a lot of money as a face, so right now turning him heel would only be a creative decision. The longer they hold off, the more epic the turn will be, however. We'll see how Linda goes in politics, and we'll see as new faces are built up as stars, but eventually Cena turning heel will happen, and I think that will be the catalyst into a new "Attitude era" for the WWE. The fall of The Undertaker could mark that. I think WrestleMania XXVIII is likely the place for that to be. Next year is too soon.

Ted DiBiase: This has been rumoured before, and so far the push of Teddy DiBiase has been legitimate. He's a good performer, but who would have seen the movie role coming? The history between his father and The Undertaker could make an interesting point of discussion in the feud, too. I personally think that next year is too soon, but whatever.

Sheamus: He is loved by people that matter. It just comes down to how much Taker loves him, I guess. Sheamus is on a tear, is always well protected, and could just start attacking The Undertaker to set up the feud. It won't be the Feud of the Year, but it's easy to write, and it gives The Undertaker something of a break. People won't be expecting the greatest match of all-time at WrestleMania from him for once.

Jack Swagger: This is rumoured to be a SummerSlam match, but I could see these two facing off at WrestleMania, too. It all depends on how much Taker likes working with Swagger, I guess (since he is a new guy). Swagger claiming to also have a streak going against The Undertaker (1-0) would be absolutely hilarious (perhaps something a Taker feud should not be), but the match would absolutely deliver. Swagger would be great in the role of the guy who actually beats Taker heading into their WrestleMania match, so that the streak actually seems threatened by "The Natural Winner."

Sting: It all depends whether or not he wants to do something with the WWE. This doesn't need much explanation. It's a dream match, pure and simple.

So with those out of the way, I will say that the only guy I can legitimately see ending the streak, is John Cena. And I don't think that is a completely loathesome thing. And I am not one to really support the push of Cena. But he basically is the company in some respects, and while it isn't needed, Cena ending the streak would give him a legitimate claim to be the greatest of all-time. He'd have spent over one thousand days as WWE Champion, he'd have probably won World Titles into the double-digits (Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Triple H and Edge are probably the only other guys who will be up there) and he'd have some more "classic matches" under his belt. But him breaking the streak would confirm him as "The Icon."

The only other people I could see doing it, are Chris Jericho (in a swerve, since no one would take him seriously heading into it) and CM Punk. Jericho achieving it would be tremendous for his heel character. It'd give him some more bragging rights, and would set him up as the heel of the company. I'm not sure if Jericho would even want to break the streak, though. It's a lot of pressure, and I think he likes working with the younger guys. But I didn't call Jericho walking out of this year's WrestleMania with a World Title, either.

CM Punk doing it would be a heat machine. I'd mark out for that very reason alone. I know a lot of people would hate this idea, but I think it would work. The Undertaker goes into WrestleMania next year involved in the World Heavyweight Title program. Let's say that Jack Swagger is still the champion. That way we have this epic "Jack Swagger's Streak as Champion vs. The Undertaker's WrestleMania Streak." Something has to give here. Swagger loses the World Title in what would hopefully be a classic, giving him his fourth World Heavyweight Title reign, and eighth career World Title. Cue three-time Money in the Bank Ladder Match Winner, CM Punk making his entrance. The crowd would be pissed instantly. Punk has a huge grin on his face, and The Undertaker actually has an expression that knows he is fucked. Cue Taker trying to put up a fight, but Punk wearing him down and eventually getting the win and his fourth World Heavyweight Title, and sixth career World Title if you count ROH and ECW (some people do).

The crowd would be pissed. I could just imagine Matt Striker on commentary talking about the significance of this event in WWE history. People would be pissed, but that is sort of the point. Punk fucked Taker's streak in the ass. You have Punk open the show on SmackDown!, coming out as the fans would hopefully be out for his blood. Punk cuts a promo saying that this is now his yard, and he's the greatest in the history of this sport -- and goes on to list his records. He says his greatest accomplishment is defeating The Undertaker for the World Heavyweight Title at WrestleMania, and becoming "The New Phenom" of the WWE. Cue The Undertaker's gong, and out comes The Dead Man. "You think because you defeated me at WrestleMania, this is over? Punk...now I'm just pissed off." Punk's facial expressions at that point would be a timeless moment. But from there, you do CM Punk vs. The Undertaker vs. Jack Swagger at the following PPV. That would be an interesting match, I am sure. But essentially you build to a Buried Alive Match between Punk and The Undertaker, or something, where Punk buries The Undertaker (perhaps with heel assist), setting up a new era in the WWE.
Let's send this to WWE's creative team.
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