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Old 06-08-2010, 07:43 PM   #81
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Wade Barrett's gonna get Orton's spot at Fatal 4 Way, thats pretty much obvious. Id go as far as to say that he wins the belt by pinning Sheamus or Edge but not Cena. Barrett won't give Cena a rematch (or if he does NXT screws Cena over with interference) and Cena's forced to compete in the MITB match at the PPV to get a title shot.
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:44 PM   #82
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Wade Barrett's gonna get Orton's spot at Fatal 4 Way, thats pretty much obvious. Id go as far as to say that he wins the belt by pinning Sheamus or Edge but not Cena. Barrett won't give Cena a rematch (or if he does NXT screws Cena over with interference) and Cena's forced to compete in the MITB match at the PPV to get a title shot.
This actually would be an incredible idea. With that said, this is so not going to happen.
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:50 PM   #83
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Been watching NXT with my girlfriend. She's not a wrestling fan at all, but she started to get used to the "reality" aspect, and she was actually interested in some of the rookies after a while.

She came home from work at like 10:30 last night, and I'm watching RAW, telling her how absolutely horrible the show has been up until that point, and maybe I ought to just turn it off. Then Punk wins the vote, and she sort of likes Punk from his NXT stuff, so I figured I'd at least see how this stupid train wreck of a show ends.

And then the best ending to a wrestling show in the better part of a decade happens and, honest to God, I think they may have turned my girlfriend into a wrestling fan last night.
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:54 PM   #84
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Next I want them to actually destroy the production truck. Not nWo "we're invading it" or whatever, but take hammers and crowbars and shit and just wreck it.
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Next I want them to actually destroy the production truck. Not nWo "we're invading it" or whatever, but take hammers and crowbars and shit and just wreck it.
Maybe they've got an old one that they could blow up?
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Hmm, with the whole FCW roster being there...wonder if we'll get 60 minutes of Richie Steamboat hitting armdrags on everybody.
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.....is his name really Richie?
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:36 PM   #88
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.....is his name really Richie?
Apparently so, but when he shows up on WWE he will be called

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There are already 2 heels in Sheamus and Edge in the match already unless next week they are all taken out and Cena is forced to face Barrett, Danielsson, and someone else is their place.
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:09 PM   #92
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Steve Austin: “well that was interesting.. that RAW ending reminds me of one time when we were filming The Condemned in Australia..on my day off i went swimming in the ocean…and was attacked by 23 great white sharks…the story gets very bloody and gory so i will not tweet the details..but i actually missed…one day of filming because i had to sew an arm and one of my hands back on..and i needed a day of rest so i could heal up 100%…anyhoo..we finished filming the Condemned and i still cant believe i didnt get an Oscar nomination for my turn as Jack Conrad..i was robbed.”
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:27 PM   #93
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Krimzon, I don't know if having a 3rd brand is the answer. It's been proven that it doesn't work and I'd hate to see them squander these guys on a show that could potentially never take off.
ECW was clearly not booked right, or promoted right. My post hinges on one absolutely critical fact....


That WWE Creative would have learned their lesson about writing a shit show like ECW. If Vinnie wants a third brand, to develop talent in a AAA 'brand' then what better way than the NXT Platform... This somewhat ties into another counterpoint:

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No. The secret is that Superstars DOESN'T suck. Some of the best matches of the week are on it.

The matches are excellent, but ratings wise, SUperstars sucks. why? There's nothing original here. It's pure wrestling, without necessary drama and build up. Sometimes you see some angles spill over, but this show is for wrestling purists...and they aren't tuning in. If you put the kind of pop into NXT that we saw last night, more people will be trying to figure out if they actually have WGN America in their programming package than now.

Alls Im Saying.
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:30 PM   #94
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You really think that something sucks because not a lot of people watch it? Surely there's a better way of saying what you were trying to say.
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:04 AM   #95
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:16 AM   #96
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You really think that something sucks because not a lot of people watch it? Surely there's a better way of saying what you were trying to say.
Okay, ahem, perhaps the ratings don't suck....
They leave a lot to be desired from Vince McMahon and his financial stakeholders.

I was gonna go with a witty acronym like Severely Uderperforming Considering that Kids love WWE!
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That was awesome. Best closing to Raw in years. The only thing I didn't like was that CM Punk was involved. It should have been Cena vs. a babyface in the main event.
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:28 AM   #98
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I can't help but feel a little leery every time they do a hostile takeover/invasion/make a statement/whatever storyline.

There will always be this one fleeting moment of awesome, which is good. But if next week they have Wade Barrett come out and it turns out he planned this with the rookies just to make a statement, and nothing more than that...they will have just wasted their best angle in nearly a decade.

Fortunately, the conclusion of the NXT Season 2 premiere is making me think this will be a long-term angle, which is awesome. Hope they don't drop the ball here, because they have the chance to make a legit main eventer (Barrett) plus make some other guys in the group (Bryan) look really strong.
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:30 AM   #99
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That was awesome. Best closing to Raw in years. The only thing I didn't like was that CM Punk was involved. It should have been Cena vs. a babyface in the main event.
You're an idiot. CM Punk being involved makes it more awesome than it would've been.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:24 AM   #100
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That was awesome. Best closing to Raw in years. The only thing I didn't like was that CM Punk was involved. It should have been Cena vs. a babyface in the main event.
Dude, having Punk and Gallows get their shit kicked in makes the whole angle way better because it shows that the season 1 NXT guys have NO alliances other than themselves, and whoever is pulling the strings. If they had just jumped Cena and left everyone else, the angle wouldn't have been nearly as good as it was.
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For what it's worth...imagine if NXT and this storyline happened in early 2002?

Brock Lesnar, Randy Orton, John Cena, Batista, Shelton Benjamin, Charlie Haas, Rob Conway, and Nick Dinsmore might have all been in on it. Imagine those guys running out during Raw, beating up Triple H and Jericho, attacking King and JR, destroying everything, etc.

Wonder if any of their careers would have been hampered by being involved in this as opposed to them being able to cement their own legacy.
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Dude, having Punk and Gallows get their shit kicked in makes the whole angle way better because it shows that the season 1 NXT guys have NO alliances other than themselves, and whoever is pulling the strings. If they had just jumped Cena and left everyone else, the angle wouldn't have been nearly as good as it was.
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Really hoping that Cole is somehow in on this and becomes the mouth piece for the group.
Here's how I want next week's Raw to end:

The NXT rookies head to the ring, with no entrance music. Barrett gets a mic and starts talking, but is interrupted by Cena. Cena leads the NXT season 1 pros down, and they have a huge brawl in & around the ring. After a bit, Jericho hits a Codebreaker out of nowhere on Cena, who then stumbles into [insert NXT rookie here]'s finisher.

After King & Jericho get over the shock of Jericho siding with the rookies, King makes a comment about how someone needs to go even the odds, and he starts heading to the ring - when Cole hits King from behind with a chair. With Jericho's help, the rookies best Cena & the pros.

Raw closes with the rookies & Jericho in the ring, arms raised. Cole gets in the ring with a mic and says just two words: "Vintage invasion".
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:18 AM   #107
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Here's how I want next week's Raw to end:

The NXT rookies head to the ring, with no entrance music. Barrett gets a mic and starts talking, but is interrupted by Cena. Cena leads the NXT season 1 pros down, and they have a huge brawl in & around the ring. After a bit, Jericho hits a Codebreaker out of nowhere on Cena, who then stumbles into [insert NXT rookie here]'s finisher.

After King & Jericho get over the shock of Jericho siding with the rookies, King makes a comment about how someone needs to go even the odds, and he starts heading to the ring - when Cole hits King from behind with a chair. With Jericho's help, the rookies best Cena & the pros.

Raw closes with the rookies & Jericho in the ring, arms raised. Cole gets in the ring with a mic and says just two words: "Vintage invasion".
I'd prefer "Vintage Swerve". But other than that, this idea would be amazing. The only thing is how do you have both Cole and Bryan in the same group?
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:22 AM   #108
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Narc suggested a way to do it:

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It would work perfectly tbh with the whole angle where "Cole does things Mr. McMahon tells him to do" that was set up in the Cole/Bryan scrap. To justify it Bryan could come out and say that everything that Cole told him previously was dead on and that he didn't want to be a loser any longer, nor did any of the NXT guys. Cole could then reveal later that McMahon gave him "a project" and that he always does what the boss asks him and he always works 100% at everything he ever does (only to be disrespected).
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Narc suggested a way to do it:
I'm still kind of meh to it, if only for the reason that Bryan fueding with Cole an calling out the WWE machine gave him a different level of connection with the fan base.
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Old 06-11-2010, 08:52 PM   #110
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Old 06-11-2010, 10:32 PM   #111
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I missed RAW, but I caught it at the end of NXT 2, which was awesome. Now, don't get me wrong -- I did like the angle -- but there are some little elements I don't like. I figured that Bryan Danielson would do fine on his own as a babyface entity. To be honest, I could easily find ways to bring Darren Young, Justin Gabriel, Skip Sheffield, Michael Tarver and the like. David Otunga is probably not ready, and Heath Slater could find his way up in time. Granted, this got them all there in an instant, and got them all over.

They seem to be beyond general heel status. N8 will take the fight to anyone. They had a dream dangled in front of them -- and now it is gone. It's interesting that Wade Barrett has aligned himself with them, though. He got what he needed from NXT. It'll be interesting to see who they put behind the group, although it looks like Wade Barrett is calling the shots. I think that is all they need. Leave Michael Cole out of it.

Evan Bourne should be the one who ends up taking Randy Orton's place in the main event, in my opinion (with the NXT guys being the one to take Orton out), but have Cena retain the WWE Title at Fatal Four Way, only for Wade Barrett to come in and cash in his PPV title shot right there and then. It'd be Money in the Bank-esque, but that sets up the next PPV perfectly. Barrett can then walk out of FFW the first English WWE Champion in history, with the NXT guys celebrating with him on RAW as they present Barrett with a newly designed WWE Title belt. Something a bit more "classy" than the current design. They can destroy the old belt as a way of symbolically destroying the WWE.

As for how I would keep this going next: Kick off RAW with a surprise visit from Shawn Michaels. HBK can say that he watches RAW with his kids, and the actions of eight men last week disturbed him, but he is close enough to one man to be genuinely personally hurt by his action's. Michaels says that Daniel Bryan is not an official part of the WWE, but HBK called Bret Hart and said that he may not owe him any favours, but please invite Bryan to RAW, and tell everyone on the RAW brand that out of any respect they have for Bret, and out of any respect they have for Shawn Michaels, to not lay a hand on him until they've had a talk. He says that he knows Daniel Bryan is backstage, so he wants him to come out right now.

Daniel Bryan walks out to the ring to no music (but hopefully a chorus of boos) with a microphone in his hand. As he approaches the ring, Bryan starts to talk with a really cocky attitude. He can open by saying that he wanted them to play "The Final Countdown" by Europe, but for some reason they didn't like it. Basically, the promo would have Shawn Michaels try to get answers out of "Daniel Bryan," with Bryan then going into worked-shoot mode on HBK. Something like that could be tremendous. Especially if HBK brought up how Mark Yeaton and Justin Roberts got hurt, and Bryan could point out he never laid a finger on them.

Things get heated between HBK and Bryan Danielson (as he calls himself during the promo), and Danielson eventually goes off about how Cena always says "If you want some, come get some" well he's making the same challenge to Cena now. In doing so, he turns towards the stage, and HBK gets in position to give Danielson the Sweet Chin Music, but Danielson is too cunning, and catches the kick when he turns around, and then starts beating on Shawn Michaels.

Something like that could be really epic.
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Especially if HBK brought up how Mark Yeaton and Justin Roberts got hurt, and Bryan could point out he never laid a finger on them.
Other than when Bryan was choking Roberts with his tie. That part was edited out of the replay.
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I'd prefer "Vintage Swerve". But other than that, this idea would be amazing. The only thing is how do you have both Cole and Bryan in the same group?
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Other than when Bryan was choking Roberts with his tie. That part was edited out of the replay.
Yeah, totally missed that. Turns out it's become such a big deal, too.
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