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Old 06-29-2010, 06:14 PM   #81
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:32 PM   #82
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Not gonna lie I actually laiughed at that joke.
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:38 PM   #83
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I initially thought the whole thing was a work, ashamed to say.

Benoit is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time, I can't get past it. If Kurt Angle murdered his ex-wife and Jeff Jarrett and then himself in a fit of jealous rage tomorrow, he would still be my favorite wrestler ever. Can't help it. If your moral compass dictates that you can't separate an on-air character from the actor who plays him-and that's essentially what is going on here-then that is your call. Enjoy that.
Thing is, let's say you're a huge Robert De Niro fan and he stars in your favourite films of all time. Then he up and kills his wife and young son. You wouldn't think about that when you watch Taxi Driver or Raging Bull? It wouldn't taint your experience/enjoyment of those films?
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:41 PM   #84
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Whilst wrestlers are actors essentially a lot of them play extensions of themselves. So, whilst we don't condemn them for the things they may do on screen (where they are playing the character) we can (and will) condemn the actions of the real person.
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:18 PM   #85
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Another thing to consider is that time WILL eventually heal all wounds. It took Michael Jackson more than 10 years for most people to forget the child molestation accusations. When he died he was definitely remembered more for his positive attributes than his negative ones.
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:27 PM   #86
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Little different though I think.

Let's not forget MJ was acquitted and then died 10 years later having been tainted by the controvesy. Even in death it was mentioned. We never knew for a fact that he did it.

With Benoit he never gave us a period of adjustment (for lack of better term) he carried out these atrocities and then offed himself.
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Fair. But when we're in our 80s and drooling on ourselves, will we more likely remember that we enjoyed watching Benoit perform, or that he killed his wife and son and then himself?
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:50 PM   #88
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1) I doubt I'll make it in to my 80s unless there are improvements in healthcare.
2) If I did make it to my 80s I think I'd probably have a hard time remembering who Benoit was fullstop.
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:57 PM   #89
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Felt I should mention that I thought of the Benoit incident when news broke about the shootings in Cumbria earlier this month.

For those not in the know, a taxi driver basically drove around the vacinity of his home town shooting at people. He killed 12 (including his brother, the family solicitor and a fellow taxi driver before killing 9 others at "random") and injured 11 before killing himself.

Nobody really knows why he did it. Everyone is left to speculate.
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:16 PM   #90
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Do you appreciate what he accomplished in Sports Entertainment, or do you think his final actions overshadow it all? Do you think its fair to hold him 100 percent responsible for the tragedy, even though the doctors proved he had brain damage? Do you consider Chris Benoit a cold-blooded murder or someone who did something very evil because of drugs, mental illness, or a brain injury? Should he rest in peace or rot in hell? Discuss...
LOL! What the hell are you talking about? I don't recall anything resembling that happening in the wrestling world.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:06 PM   #91
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Thing is, let's say you're a huge Robert De Niro fan and he stars in your favourite films of all time. Then he up and kills his wife and young son. You wouldn't think about that when you watch Taxi Driver or Raging Bull? It wouldn't taint your experience/enjoyment of those films?
absolutely not, frankly. I guess another example here would be, when I watch Kill Bill 2, I'm not thinking about David Carradine dying with his dick in his hand and a rope around his neck the whole movie, I'm just thinking about what an awesome movie it is. Carradine dying in an embarrassing way in real life is just a footnote.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:23 PM   #92
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OK, now replace "self-inflicted, embarrassing death" with "murdered his wife and kid and then commited suicide".

I dunno, I was just asking. Like I said, for me it does taint every match he's ever been in.
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