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Old 07-21-2010, 05:06 PM   #1
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The Bulls in 94 after Jordan left were still the #3 seed in the East and lost in game 7 to the eventual Eastern Conference champs, and even then the Knicks game 5 win was on a controversial call. The following year they were the 5 seed when MJ returned half way through the season. So to act like Chicago was worthless without Jordan is a little ridiculous. Was he the greatest ever? Yeah, but he had a lot of help too. Help Lebron has never had, and likely wasn't going to get any time soon.

Was that partially his fault? Yeah, holding off on decisions and being an egotistical gloryhound generally does that. However nobody that isn't desparate to play with him, or has ties to the area is really going to want to play there. They are going to want to play in cities like Chicago, Miami, LA, Boston or NY. Cities where they can get more attention and more endorsements. I mean we talk about Bird, Jordan and Magic well where did they play? Big cities with big money. That's what it's all about, he wants to get all he can while he can. Who knows, in a few years if he has some titles, he may go back to Cleveland to finish out his career.

But just because something is unprecendented doesn't mean it's awful. I mean Moses Malone was the last MVP to leave his team and that was like 30 years ago. Yet does anyone remember that or talk about that? No, after a year or two no one will care about this either and we'll all be on to the next thing we can overreact too. It'll be like the Kobe rape accusations. The only people who will bring it up are people looking to tear the guy down. He handled this deal in probably the worst way he could, but in the end who cares?
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Old 07-21-2010, 05:13 PM   #2
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If there was parity it wouldn't have took Allen and KG to make Boston a playoff team, and KG leaving wouldn't have sent Minnesota back to the dark ages.

There are always going to be an LA Clippers, but there are teams that don't have terrible management and still find it hard to compete.
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If there was parity it wouldn't have took Allen and KG to make Boston a playoff team, and KG leaving wouldn't have sent Minnesota back to the dark ages.

There are always going to be an LA Clippers, but there are teams that don't have terrible management and still find it hard to compete.
Minnesota got Al Jefferson in their deal which ended up being better than what Seattle got. Minnesota's problem was then deciding to continue with salary dumping and trying to fill entire team with forwards instead of rebuilding the correct way.
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The owner of the Clippers is a fucking shithead and has no intention of ever seriously competing.
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Yeah, I fucking hate how they run that franchise. I'm surprised the league hasn't tried to force him to sell the team, I know they can't probably, but I would atleast make the effort
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Lebron basically listened to all the hype and BS that was coming from ESPN and his agents/inner circle of people ever since he got showcased on national tv from high school. Jordan, Bird, and Magic had to earn their titles as best of the 1980s and 1990s while Lebron was elevated as the new "king" because the NBA and Stern kept pushing the idea of superstars instead of teams as selling point of the league.

Instead of earning his title as "king", he and the team ends up goofing around or acting arrogant during the playoffs and it killed all their momentum. Then because last 2 years was hyped as the Race for Lebron, his ego allowed him to come up with the idea to stage a special show just for himself.
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I liked that LeBron James special. He's someone who really knows how to strut his stuff.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:22 PM   #8
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http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...27/superteams/

Interesting article on NBA superstars and expansion.
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Jordan might have not done that but LeBron also isn't getting caught up in gambling/with the wrong people & being forced to take 2 years off to play baseball to take the heat off/cover it up. LeBron's father also won't be getting murdered (nobody knows who he is really is anyway though I guess)
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I still don't understand how Delonte West got caught with a machine gun in a guitar case while out on a motorcycle and nothing came of that.
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