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Old 01-19-2011, 04:25 PM   #81
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Hes not over what about Fatal Four Way? He wasn't even in the fucking league and got bigger pops than anybody wrestling that night.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:32 PM   #82
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Hes not over what about Fatal Four Way? He wasn't even in the fucking league and got bigger pops than anybody wrestling that night.
To be fair that PPV was in Long Island which is big time smark territory.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:44 PM   #83
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What angle is JTG in? He gets much louder reactions than Daniel Bryan.
He's also on smackdown isn't he? Where the noise is piped in. You're a tool.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:46 PM   #84
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Daniel Bryan is not over, and he absolutely is boring out of the ring. But that's how he's booked.

Gertner's right. He's not what WWE fans want. They need the character to connect to. Without a decent character, fans WILL NOT get behind him unless he oozes charisma, which he doesn't. I think he has enough to get by with the right booking, but right now he has no character past geek who can go in the ring. The WWE is failing in terms of giving him a gimmick fans can get behind.

In terms of his in-ring work, I have to disagree with Gertner, claiming he's all mat-based and that his style doesn't work in WWE. His matches with Dolph were awesome, as was the triple threat he was in a few months ago. I'm not saying that as an indy fan or even internet fan. They were exciting matches. WWE.com put his match with Dolph at #2. His style can mesh well with almost anyone in the company. The problem is that his matches do require longer durations than what he's getting to get over SOLELY on the ring work. If he actually got some time (like in the Dolph matches) the fans could and DO get into the matches. But the fact is that WWE thrives on shorter matches on the undercard, until (if) Danielson is main eventing, he can't get over on his ring work alone.
This.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:47 PM   #85
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That and there are a number of promos he cut in ROH that were pretty damn good (ie most of his promos when he was the heel ROH Champion and is promo before the Man Up PPV where he talked about how his family wanted him to retire).
I haven't watched too much ROH but I remember a promo he did as champion where he showed up at a CZW show during the ROH vs CZW feud and it was great.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:04 PM   #86
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He's also on smackdown isn't he? Where the noise is piped in. You're a tool.
Watch Superstars and tell me that again. Plus, live reports say that he gets loud pops. Dick. Watch Morrison vs Bryan again and tell me how "over" he is. It wasn't even close to Morrison.
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He shouldn't be getting bigger pops than Morrison because Morrison is in the middle of a sustained push to groom him for the main event.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:02 AM   #88
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He should be getting more than he's been getting.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:09 AM   #89
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Watch Superstars and tell me that again. Plus, live reports say that he gets loud pops. Dick. Watch Morrison vs Bryan again and tell me how "over" he is. It wasn't even close to Morrison.
Superstars gets piped in sounds too. It's on delay from either Monday (Raw) or Tuesday (Smackdown.)

If JTG was really over he'd be on WWE PPV or Monday Night Raw. He couldn't win the tag team titles when he was basically the only real tag team with Shad.
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