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Old 04-30-2011, 02:52 PM   #81
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yeah I am still getting the maintenace message as well
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Old 04-30-2011, 03:29 PM   #82
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The debate will rage on forever. My personal stance is that you have a right to be upset about personal info being stolen, but not about a free service going offline. PSN+ guys are free to be pissed off.
Disagree. It's a feature on the box and has sold consoles on the premise of free online gaming. It's hardly "free", just cheaper than live.
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:48 PM   #83
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And I'm sure if you read the fine print somewhere deep in the ToS, you'll probably find that Sony has the right to terminate online services indefinitely and without notice or compensation to end users.

I'm not saying it's cool, I'm just assuming the worst about a company that clearly only cares about money.
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Old 04-30-2011, 06:50 PM   #85
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PlayStation Network, down since April 18, will return "this week," said Kazuo Hirai, the second-in-command for Sony Corp., at a news conference today in Tokyo.

When PSN comes online, users will face a mandatory system software update that requires all PSN users to change their account passwords before they can sign into the service. That password can be changed only on the same PS3 that activated the account, or through a validated email confirmation, Sony said.

Sony has also created a new chief information officer position to oversee security, in the wake of the massive data breach that exposed 77 million account holders' personal information. A "Welcome Back" program offering free content to all subscribers, and a free 30-day subscription to PlayStation Plus members, will also be implemented.
Hopefully the email confirmation thing works well, since I don't have the PS3 I authenticated my accounts on.
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Old 05-01-2011, 12:26 PM   #88
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Sony will also be giving everyone access to Playstation Plus for one month.

Which means nothing, of course, since once that month is up you lose anything you've downloaded
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Old 05-01-2011, 12:34 PM   #89
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Pretty much, unless you buy a game that's been discounted. I wonder how they're going to handle it. If they automatically switch every single account over no questions asked, or if they make you sign up with a credit card so they can automatically renew.
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Old 05-01-2011, 12:48 PM   #90
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A "Welcome Back" program offering free content to all subscribers, and a free 30-day subscription to PlayStation Plus members, will also be implemented.
I think the free 30 days for PS+ is only if you're already a member. I think other people are just getting free stuff in general. Hence why it says free stuff for all subscribers, and free subscription to members.
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Sony announced its "Welcome Back" program worldwide, giving all existing PlayStation Network users 30 days of PlayStation Plus for free. Current PlayStation Plus members will receive 30 days of additional service at no cost. Sony will also provide "selected PlayStation entertainment content" for free to download. Details for each region will be announced at a later date. Additionally, Music Unlimited subscribers (in countries where the service is available) will receive 30 days free service.
- http://ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1165399p1.html

That's where I got my info from
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Joystiq also has it implied that everyone will receive it.
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Hmmm. Interesting. But yeah, what's the point really, besides the discounts, since all of it will go away after a month? Better off just giving people free stuff in general. Also, the free stuff better not be crap for Home...
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:08 PM   #94
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I think the free 30 days for PS+ is only if you're already a member. I think other people are just getting free stuff in general. Hence why it says free stuff for all subscribers, and free subscription to members.
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All existing PlayStation Network customers will be provided with 30 days free membership in the PlayStation Plus premium service. Current members of PlayStation Plus will receive 30 days free service.
Does smack of marketing that though. Have this content for 30 days then we'll rip it away.

The free content could be nice though.
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Actually, scratch that. It's not free, per se. It comes at the cost of your sanity and faith in humankind. However, that may be a negligible price to pay if you're a big fan of watching idiots embarrass themselves online.
Something dumb is written on this page at least once every six minutes. What follows is a mere example of choice cuts.
dear playstation, yur still better than a white green box that happens 2 get a red ring if played 4 2 hours, take yur time cleaning yur system, at least we dont have 2 pay 4 online. XBOX = fail PS3 = # Winning
Where to start? The grammar? The use of #winning weeks after it stopped being relevant? The direct comparison between a system not working and an entire network of 77 million users with compromised personal data? It's all gold!
HAHAHA NORTH AMERICA WILL BE ON FIRST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUT OF USERS LOL!!!! FUCK YOU REST OF THE WORLD
A common theme on the page is an amazingly mercenary attitude exhibited by the users. Most of them seem to delight in the idea of PSN not being available to certain people, be they in Japan, Europe or North America. So much for a united front.
xbox 4 kids you know not 4 us the psn ......................... you know
There are my favorites. The one where you feel the poster just had a car crash in his head, and this one mangled sentence was all that had been recovered from the wreckage.
I think he's trying to say that the Xbox is for children and the PSN is for adults, but the fact that he has not exhibited a single shred of adult-grade intelligence with this post seems to indicate otherwise .............................. you know.
R U FUCKING SHIT PSN U NEED TO GET SUM NEW EMPLOYEES CUS IF UR WORKING 24/7 UR A BUNCH OF SLOTHS AND U CAN FINGER UR DADS BUMOLES
It's not just pro-Sony fanboys who are clogging up the page with their gibbering insanity. Occasionally, you get a wonderfully angry post from someone who doesn't feel Sony should be exonerated of all responsibility. Unfortunately, their levels of eloquence are indistinguishable from the other side of the debate, so you get posts like this. Now excuse me while I finger my dad's bumhole.
like this if u think sony should give us psychatrist to remove all the frustration we have gone through this 11 days
These ones, I like. The ones that truly give us a glimpse into the fractured, frail psyche of a fanboy. To some, the PSN downtime is more than an inconvenience -- it's an emotional ordeal. Only Facebook Likes will be able to repair their shattered soul!
Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring! Without PSN life is Boring!
Go outside. Read a book. Play Angry Birds. Masturbate. Talk to some real human beings. That's just a small sample of things one could be doing while the PlayStation Network is down. I just tried to imagine a world where PSN is the sole source of entertainment in the world, and I cried.
U FUCKING PRICKS, GIVE ME THE COD MAP PACKS AT LEAST U FUCKING MUSLIMES
Muslimes?
hey sony fan boys! You guys are fucking losers. How can you defend a company that had its security coded by a 12 year old? You also don't mind that Sony lied to your face for a week when it failed to mention the cause of the attacks. And you guys defend them. Have your free downloads this week because you guys have no fucking content anyway. You pay for nothing, and you shall receive nothing my friends.
Like I said, the anti-Sony side of the debate is no more intellectual than the pro. While this guy started with a potentially valid question about people defending an almighty screw-up, he just gets dumber and dumber until any sense that his argument could have made are lost in the mire.
I like to imagine he started out with a brain, but the more he typed, the more stupid he became, infected by the rampant idiocy already prevalent on the page. PSN's Facebook page is where sentient thought goes to die.
PSN !! :OO
It's Been 2 Weeks ! :O
i Need you N Miss you Moore than any Chick !! :O :P
Wanna Play BLACK OPS N hot Pursuit Online !
PSN, better than chicks.
funny how the day binladen dies psn network is goin up thr next day ... i think binladen is the leader of the cyber attacks and al quieda:')
A huge number of posts are talking about Bin Laden's death, most of them echoing the already tired, "See what American can do when PSN is down" joke. This one was just adorably moronic though.
PEOPLE THAT DONT EVEN OWN A PS3 CAN GTFO THIS PAGE N GOOO F**K YOURSELVES......LAME ASSES......MUTHA FUCKA JUST PISSED CAUSE THEY PAY FOR CRAP....AND GETS NO FUCKIN FRE SHIT....X-BOX IS A F**KIN JOKE....
I love the ones who feel the need to swear in all-caps, but have the good grace to censor themselves. Except when they say MUTHA FUCKA. Apparently that's cool.
PSN DIDNT GET HACKED THEY SHUT THE SERVERS DOWN SO THEY WOULDNT GET HACKED
Logic bomb, bitches!
psn can suck on chinese nuts xbox is better
Much to my chagrin, I have never sucked on Chinese nuts. That delicacy has, thus far, eluded me. If anybody reading this has sucked on Chinese nuts, can you please let us know if they taste somehow worse than the nuts of any other nationality?
I'm trying to see what effect the Chineseness of the nuts will have on the experience of the sucker.
People said it would be back on today but there just chat shit to make them selfs look good fuking fat neerdy vergins! why lie
Apparently this dude really loves the letter "e".
I THINK IT WAS THAT LITTLE BIEBER CUNT WHO HACKED IT HE CANT SING SO HE HAD TO TRY GET MONEY SOME HOW
Because not being able to sing has been a big barrier to making money out of the music industry in recent years. Seriously though, there's a significant amount of Bieber hate on the page, leading me to wonder if they legitimately think he had something to do with it. Wouldn't surprise me if they did, at this rate.
Every one calm down, it will be back later this week but in the mean time find some thing fun to do like shooting gays and smoking pot.
That's Andre Goldson there, being a homophobic little fuckpuppet.
60 year ago America would have just kicked off invaded Japan took pSN for themselves and it would have been back on line in 4 years
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im leaving this page now but evryone in here are no life dumb fags who no shit and go of there own thoughts instead of looking things up and they have sheep following them behind
Of course, while he wrote this, he was still technically on the page, therefore he too is a no life dumb fag who no shit go of there own thoughts instead of looking things up and he has sheep following him behind. Wait, what?
Hey God shits
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I hope the person who hacked psn hacks xbox live but for twice as long!!
Like I said earlier, the mercenary attitude is quite amazing, and the fact that someone hopes that other gamers get fucked over on the same level as PSN users is pretty damn sad. Not least for those with both PSN and Xbox Live accounts who would then be double fucked. It's pretty sad that gamers wish for bad shit to happen to other gamers. Truly, have we gone away from having simple fun with our videogames when we get into that kind of miserable behavior.
ben laden was killed himself because psn is down since too long time
This? This may be the greatest fucking sentence ever written in the history of human civilization. Seriously, I think that pretty much says everything that needs to be said.
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Does anyone know what order and when they will start turning servers back on?. btw that facebook psn page is pure gold
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:38 PM   #103
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Sony shuts down their Online PC Portal for fears it might have been hacked as well but Sony can't confirm it. An issue during their investigation of PSN might have shown something similar was going on in their PC Portal services.

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Does anyone know what order and when they will start turning servers back on?. btw that facebook psn page is pure gold
Sony doesn't even know
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:36 AM   #105
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Hope psn comes back online and not keep it off cause of SOE breach
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:44 AM   #106
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It's beginning to look like this was a semi-inside job, or at least former employer. They laid off 200 SOE employees just days before the PSN hack and a lot of their security teams were shared.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:14 PM   #107
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Old 05-04-2011, 01:41 PM   #108
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Today, the Subcommittee on Commerce, Manufacturing and Trade of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Energy and Commerce held a hearing in Washington, DC on “The Threat of Data Theft to American Consumers.”Kazuo Hirai, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Sony Computer Entertainment America, submitted written answers to questions posed by the subcommittee about the large-scale, criminal cyber-attack we have experienced. We wanted to share those answers with you (click here).In summary, we told the subcommittee that in dealing with this cyber attack we followed four key principles:Act with care and caution. Provide relevant information to the public when it has been verified. Take responsibility for our obligations to our customers. Work with law enforcement authorities.
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We also informed the subcommittee of the following:Sony has been the victim of a very carefully planned, very professional, highly sophisticated criminal cyber attack. We discovered that the intruders had planted a file on one of our Sony Online Entertainment servers named “Anonymous” with the words “We are Legion.” By April 25, forensic teams were able to confirm the scope of the personal data they believed had been taken, and could not rule out whether credit card information had been accessed. On April 26, we notified customers of those facts. As of today, the major credit card companies have not reported any fraudulent transactions that they believe are the direct result of this cyber attack. Protecting individuals’ personal data is the highestpriority and ensuring that the Internet can be made secure for commerce is also essential. Worldwide, countries and businesses will have to come together to ensure the safety of commerce over the Internet and find ways to combat cybercrime and cyber terrorism.
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We are taking a number of steps to prevent future breaches, including enhanced levels of data protection and encryption; enhanced ability to detect software intrusions, unauthorized access and unusual activity patterns; additional firewalls; establishment of a new data center in an undisclosed location with increased security; and the naming of a new Chief Information Security Officer.
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Old 05-04-2011, 01:44 PM   #111
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sorry bout mutliple posts, using my ps3 to do this with
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Old 05-04-2011, 02:35 PM   #112
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I got an email from SOE from when I signed up there like 6 years ago. I think I used my CC but it has since expired.
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It's funny. Working last night at Gamestop we had a customer come in bitching about the PSN being down. We're used to it these days, but what totally blew me away were his next few comments.

"Man, the fucking 3 (assuming PS3) is sooo much betta than the box. (Assuming XBOX360) That shit prolly got hacked by some angry box fanboys. Those fuckas just be hatin on the 3 so they hacked it so we gotta suffer. That's why I hate the box and people who use it."

How moronic can you be? To blatantly assume that this was all done out of spite by a fanboy? It makes no damned sense. I swear all logic goes out of these peoples heads when this shit happens. He went on for about 10 minutes bitching about the PS3 and how it is far more superior to the XBOX, but we (my manager and I) just kept hitting him with facts about the pros and cons of both systems. He of course labeled us as PS3 haters, but that's untrue as I own all 3 major consols, but PREFER to get enjoyment from playing my 360 more so.

What really got me was after 25 minutes of talking to this guy and his dad, he went home with a 250GB Kinect bundle 360, a used copy of MvC3, a new copy of Mortal Kombat, a used Black Ops, and the new map pack for Black Ops.
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Man, people sure are losing their minds over all of this. I mean, I want to play myself but there are other things people can be doing.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:29 AM   #116
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You know, I really miss playing DCUO...


so much that I'm about to cancel my motherfucking subscription. Whipping out UFC undisputed 2010. Fuck this MMO shit.


and yes, I'm butthurt over this
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You know, I really miss playing DCUO...


so much that I'm about to cancel my motherfucking subscription. Whipping out UFC undisputed 2010. Fuck this MMO shit.


and yes, I'm butthurt over this
I'd see about having Sony reimburse you for a month subscription for it while you're at it.
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They already said they're giving people a free month along with a batman mask. Quit your crying.
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DC Universe Online players get credit, mask for downtime

by Alexander Sliwinski (20 hours ago)
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Sony Online Entertainment plans to give all DC Universe Online players a free month and "Batman-Inspired mask" as compensation for the current outage. The company asked players on the game's Facebook page to bear with them as "the complexities of the subscription server dictate how and when this will be available" and that the company will be releasing "more information this week."

The outage is part of the overall PlayStation Network issue that resulted in SOE announcing earlier this week that 12,700 credit card numbers were taken and 24.6 million accounts were compromised. So, yeah, a free month and a virtual hat seems like a good start to an apology.
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